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"We Want Flair!"


Hey Scott,

Do you think the Daniel Bryan situation plays out similar to a Ric Flair scenario where the fanbase vocally starts chanting for him during any segments with Randy Orton and Big Show? Would it possibly culminate in the proposed Randy Orton/Big Show Survivor Series match just getting bludgeoned with "We want Bryan" chants?

-Vintage Gamer

You might want to ask Zack Ryder how well that worked out for him.   WWE doesn't care what the fans want unless it overlaps with their own desires.  

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  1. At this point, short of fans getting up and LEAVING during the show, short of WWE failing to sell out Wrestlemania, short of the ratings taking a sustained nosedive below 2, short of fans recreating the hotter days of the territorial days (actually assaulting wrestlers, with WEAPONS)...


    ...Short of something truly damaging the WWE bottom line, they just won't give a fuck. End of story.

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  2. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    If that happened the blame will fall on everyone in that segment EXCEPT HHH and that will be the reason they don't get pushed and HHH gets a token title reign. (Don't think he hasn't posed with that new title belt and thought about it.)

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  3. I'm talking about something that drops the WWE's value back to its lowest ever values... I know the financial side was talked about a while back on here... WWE currently is worth about 180% of it's lowest ever value. That number would have to get cut by 1/3 MINIMUM before they take note.

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  4. Um, but they will have Daniel Bryan wrestling at the event.
    'We Want Bryan' doesn't really work.
    Chant for Bryan when the big show is getting double teamed on the other hand might be more productive...

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  5. Is he still planning on eclipsing Flair's record?
    But yeah, this is why no REAL competition hurts. WWE knows they're the only game in town so they can just coast along as long as they're doing well enough. Sadly, "well enough" means they don't have to make new stars, like when the expanison started or in the MNW, and really, when was the last time they did that?
    The overproduction isn't good either...since they fancy themselves as "entertainment," I guess they think they are like movie or TV producers and are like "this is how the program goes, whether you like it or not." I liken them to George Lucas, prequel and Special Edition era. It took three shots to finally push Jar Jar into the background, despite the backlash from day one.

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  6. Seriously, and this can be a future question, why did Bruno change his mind so fast? What do you think finally did it? Or does WWE have a brainwashing machine, which would explain Warrior too....oh wait, you need something to wash for such a machine to work.

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  7. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Watch this Thread Jack Gymnastics.


    -"We want Flair" (topic title)
    -Great American Bash 91
    -Windham/Luger


    So I'm watching the 93 timeline with Luger and HOLY SHIT, does he look different. Im sure he is healthier and at peace with himself, but damn... from 93 Luger to 2013 Luger... yeesh.

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  8. Monopoly isn't fun

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  9. Teddy long ages in reverse I think

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  10. Seeing Randy Orton try and work a match with the whole arena chanting 'we want Bryan' would be marvellous.

    Because who has been asking for a Big Show/Bryan match? Absolutely no one. Ironically that pairing is most definitely not best for business.

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  11. Do you mean who's been asking for a Show/Orton match? And yeah, if Orton didn't like the RAwAfterMania crowd chants, he probably wouldn't enjoy these ones very much either.

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  12. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    i personally like the big/little dynamic.


    Bryan can work, and Show when motivated could pull out some stuff.


    I always wanted to see Show/Mysterio get 15 minutes on PPV, just to see if Show would back bodydrop Mysterio. I always thought that would be a cool as spot/highspot

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  13. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    500,000 bucks and lets face it Bruno is old and is still a mark.


    The fact that he got erased for so long hurt his ego after being on top for so long.


    Any video packages remembering him as he once was would greatly be appreciated at his age to be remembered as he once was,

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  14. I mentioned in a thread a few weeks back that I thought the photo of Luger in the Timeline ad on whatever site it was I saw it made him look like Larry Z on quick glance. That's probably not a look the Total Package was looking for.

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  15. Monopoly can be fun if played correctly. The problem is that nobody plays correctly and the game lasts for far longer than it should.

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  16. They've had PPV matches before. Rey got tied to a spine board at the end and Big Show picked it up and swung it like a bat against the ring post.

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  17. "the game lasts for far longer than it should."


    This also applies to WWE, The Game has lasted too long.

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  18. That wasn't Batista?

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  19. That happens to Rey a lot...

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  20. Bryans never gonna be the guy. Stages of grieving...Denial, angering, bargaining, depression, acceptance. Im on the "acceptance" phase.

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  21. https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7874486016/hE3F83D3F/


    Seems appropriate.

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  22. This wont stop being funny for awhile.

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  23. Trish Stratus. Your move.

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  24. I feel we are all pawns in Scotts world, Used to give him personal enjoyment.

    Scott, weigh in on yesterdays A+ mega thread. Flair and Savage are the biggest points of arguememt. I say Flair is, Savage isnt.

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  25. Fuck it. I'm drinking the kool-aid.


    HHH and VKM is the reason wrestling exists. All hail our evil overinflated egos.

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  26. HBK
    Ric Flair
    Daniel Bryan Danielson

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  27. it still blows my mind that she became reasonably accomplished in the ring. I can remember when she first showed up and was pretty much a shorter Sable.

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  28. I just say this.

    If Savage isn't, then neither is Rock.

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  29. I vehemently disagree but dont feel like getting into it. We beat it to death in the other thread.

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  30. Him...

    http://prowrestling.wikia.com/wiki/File:Triple_H_(Jean_Paul_Levesque).jpg

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  31. I can't decide between Melina and Alicia Fox...

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  32. They'd probably bury him harder just to make a point of being able to do so.

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  33. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    im going to go and say that so far, this 93 timeline is awesome.


    Luger is self aware of his abilities and doesnt try to overblow himself.

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  34. What's this "kinda" business?

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  35. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 31, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Don Muraco was overrated. He was one of those guys that would work at the level of the guy he was facing, but couldn't elevate a lesser guy to a good match. He has a cult following because of Fuji Vice, and eating a sandwich in the ring. When he became a face, and was dubbed "The Rock", he was even worse, but by then he had gotten so bloated on the 'roids that it didn't matter.
    But he should have won that World Heavyweight Championship Battle Royal that Verne Gagne put on in the dying days of the AWA...instead of Larry Zybyszko...hell I didn't even look it up to figure out how to spell his name.

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  36. How dare you besmirch the original "The Rock." You shut your dirty whore mouth. :-P

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  37. Yes. Yes I did.

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  38. Was definitely Show, because he caught heat for just letting rey's head bounce off the floor and not doing it safely.

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  39. I think I'm somewhere between the last two, though I skipped bargaining. Who the fuck would I bargain with?

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  40. Trish actually gave a shit and worked really, really hard. There was also a plethora of talent for her to work with back then. So it's not surprising.

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  41. Mae Young. Who else can take bumps into their 90's?

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  42. What does it take to become 'the guy' though?

    Bryan has had arenas eating out of his palms all summer long. He's certainly been the hottest guy they've had in years and it was all down to him.

    Are the wwe really that petty they'll kill all his heat to the point where fans know it's not worth investing in him?

    ...

    Aww, shit.

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  43. They really should have scrapped the "T&A" thing and left Albert out. Test returning with a hot new canadian chick to blow off the Stephanie/HHH stuff made sense to me then and it makes sense to me now.

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  44. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    You. Fucking. Win.

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  45. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    The original Rock was Ole.

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  46. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryOctober 31, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Definitely HBK. Greatest worker ever and a solid main eventer, but never a huge draw and totally unknown to anyone who's never followed wrestling. I'd put Flair in the A+ group, and wouldn't even consider Bryan, at least not yet.

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  47. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    im not one to doubt

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  48. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    ...not Tupac.

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  49. Yep. Ole was called 'the Rock'. I don't think it was like Jake "the Snake" Roberts where he'd always be referred to by his nickname. But he was referred to as "the Rock" on occasion.

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  50. I'm too exhausted after the last thread.

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  51. Me neither. I never found her particularly attractive. I prefer a moderately sized natural boobs over gigantic obviously fake ones.

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  52. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Tupac is considered the Greatest rapper of all time. I disagree.

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  53. I don't think people care early as much as we want them to. Most fans are sheep who just cheer whoever WWE programs them to. Fans just really like chanting YES and when that gets old his popularity will fade.

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  54. HE WROTE THIS SONG A LONG TIME AGO...

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  55. Who do you put above him?

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  56. And that's one of many reasons I'll always love Molly Holly.

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  57. Before my time in wrestling, and outside what I was able to watch when I did. I grew up in a small CA town on the Mexican border about an hour way from AZ. All I could really watch was WWF, and I got pulled in between WM2 & III. TBS was not available on our cable system.


    Does that mean the dude was actually cut at some point, and not the round old man I think of?

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  58. Yup. Answered my own question with Google.

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  59. Nope. He was the classic pre-Hogan wrestler look.

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  60. His original name was Rock Rogowski. He changed it, but Rock stuck.

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  61. "Iron" Mike Sharpe



    /thread

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  62. Unlike this, which jumped the shark day 1.

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  63. Scream09_HartKillerOctober 31, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Tuesday, in Elementary Schools across the world, the playground was a buzz that the greatest wrestler of all time John Cena was back and he won a title in his very first match. Also, Randy Orton's in trouble because the Big Show is really, really big and he drove a big truck and stuff to!

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  64. ...and we go from wrestling to rapping because....?


    "Because fuck you, and you don't like rap. That's why."


    Oh. Ok then.

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  65. In his era, he was only .75-.80 GOAT, if I remember my currencies right.

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  66. Yeah, I google imaged him right after that post. He was indeed.

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  67. Reasonably accomplished seems like a bit of an understatement. A man with her in ring skills, charisma, promo skills, and good loks would have... been buried by HHH for sure.

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  68. I thought the whole discussion was kind of pointless in that it was such an arbitrary thing to define in the first place.

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  69. I would put Savage and Flair on the same tier. Just under Hogan/Austin/Rock.

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  70. You almost owed me a new laptop there. I swallowed the Cherry 7-Up right before hitting the punchline.

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  71. I don't see how Ric Flar is even in the discussion if you look at his entire career. People act like everything he has done in the last 20 years shouldn't count or something... much of which has been... less than ideal.

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  72. Both would make for an acceptable evening.

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  73. Are we treating this like
    'aAZX/

    ?"lhdawr

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  74. Yea, made for good discussion though

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  75. http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/540/656/f26.jpg

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  76. That horse is still intact.

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  77. He IS a jam up guy

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  78. You don't like Rap because you hate black people RACIST

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  79. and, one more. Just cause.

    http://cdn.na16.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/jumped-the-shark.jpg

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  80. Clearly... that's why I mostly stayed out of it though.

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  81. I was wiping off the keyboard. It's been fixed into something intelligent.

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  82. (Must not make Crying Game joke...)

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  83. Yup.


    And, I don't have a huge sample size when it comes to her matches. I've never seen her do anything, wrestling wise, than made me go "damn."

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  84. I was obviously joking... but as a kid I found that arm band thing he wore, his nickname, and his jet black hair to be very cool for some reason.

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  85. Yup. Us blues guys hate black folk.

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  86. Someone likes the hits that thread got. Up next, use the Bret Hart system to score everyone

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  87. Well. That mental image was lovely. Thank you.

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  88. I don't like (most) rap because it is degrading to all people. Including the horse's asses who sing it.


    Is there good rap? Sure. Buried under MOUNTAINS of shit.

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  89. I fucking hate moneyball stats so I am not sure... I just think you don't get to throw out the bad parts of a career... if we did that we could judge Tensai just on the Kane match and put him in the discussion.

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  90. I live to serve.


    No, not in that way you disgusting perverts. (Or in Stu Hart's world, "preverts")

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  91. Difference:


    Tensai has few good matches/any(?) good angles in his career.


    Flair has a massive amount of both.

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  92. You think YES! will get old?

    May I point you in the direction of WHAT?

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  93. Well...if your method of service doesn't involve nipple clamps and a blindfold, I'm just not interested.

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  94. http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/meme/znzup2

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  95. Oh, I consider him a highlight on WWE 24/7, when Maple Leaf matches pop up. Which is why I was willing to take the joke that extra step.

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  96. I seem to recall he actually won a match or two on Prime Time Wrestling. Had a bit of a hot streak going in MSG. Maybe Boston.

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  97. Anyone not named Bret Hart gets a 4/10 or worse.

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  98. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    You're blue? Maybe you should get some air.

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  99. I would throw Hillbilly Jim's name in this hat, but I feel like people are starting to make ironic suggestions and I wouldn't want my intention to be misconstrued.

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  100. was the dopest song he ever wrote...in 94

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  101. Ill be the first to give a serious answer. Hogan, and im not sure how debatable it is.

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  102. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    This post is about the Greatest of All Time. It didn't say in what.
    Plus I was killing time until my Ramen Noodles were done.

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  103. Well, c'mon now. If you can't aim that at parallax, what's the point of creating it?

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  104. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 31, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    That's the system where the better worker the more tears in the eyes right?

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  105. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    "Rest in Peace Tupac.."
    "I WILL!!"

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  106. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryOctober 31, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    You wouldn't call Hogan an A+ guy?

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  107. I am. Hes the GOAT

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  108. Oh, c'mon now. You can do better than that.

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  109. Well...ummm....

    "...so that we can talk about great wrestlers, who still aren't A+ wrestlers."



    :-/

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  110. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    http://bluntobject.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/i-love-this-thread-so-much.jpg

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  111. Scott's line in some rant (or multiple rants) about Hogan being an ORANGE SKINNED FREAK made me laugh so damn hard I cried.

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  112. I told you... stop rocking the table!

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  113. That thread is full of crazy people.

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  114. No, please do. We'll make fun of it either way.

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  115. Justin Credible. MR. GAS IN THE TANK.

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  116. And, dude really was cool. I can still hear him in my head...kind of a pre-Hacksaw "Hoooo!!", for lack of a better description.

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  117. "Hey, don't put Regular in there jackass. I'm paying for Premium, that's what I want."

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  118. Damn straight. Horace Hogan is a wrestling GOD!

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  119. 'PREMIUM, DUDE!'

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  120. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    As opposed the "MR SUGAR IN HIS TANK" Pat Patterson?

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  121. He cashed it in against Brooklyn Brawler and went for the gold.

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  122. Worldwide I think it's Rikidozan.

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  123. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    It's not Tessmacher's ass, but then again what is?

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  124. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 31, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    In terms of workrate you can debate over 10 guys, (none of them Hogan.) But in terms of a guy that helped change the business, twice, I don't think there is any question that the GOAT is Hogan

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  125. If you haven't GIFed (or found one) of last night's highlight reel, snap to it.

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  126. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryOctober 31, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    I thought we were talking about people that were great, but not A+ guys.

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  127. Only he could be a proper gimp for Warrior. Nothing homosexual about that, of course...

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  128. I think we broke this thread about five posts in.

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  129. When it comes crashing down and it hurts inside...

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  130. Did he bring him to Rio, to "relive" his IC title win?

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  131. Hey, rap and wrestling go hand in hand. No Limit Soldiers, Konnan, THE NORTH WESTERNS WITH ATTITUDE.

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  132. Ok. No idea who that is. I don't really go outside North America for wrestling. But, my first visual upon reading that name was a moshup of Rikishi and Rodan.

    Yeah.

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  133. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Her in the locker room twerking?

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  134. Who was the dink Eric brought in who plugged a clothing line? Master P? Something like that?

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  135. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryOctober 31, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    He basically created puro.

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  136. The Inter Colon title?

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  137. I disagree with your use of the word "sing" as it relates to said MOUNTAINS of shit.

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  138. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryOctober 31, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    What the fuck does twerking even mean?

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  139. Yep. Bargain at millions to stand around and go WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP.

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  140. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Da boo Dee, Da Boo Da

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  141. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    It was Hootie Hoo... get it right

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  142. Yeah, I did a quick net search. Still having a hard time shaking the visual. *shudder*

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  143. Who remembers DJ Ran... you know, the guy all "up in your area."


    All I remember is wanting a flamethrower to remove him from said area.

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  144. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Not when there is a guy named Rakim on the planet.

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  145. Would rather watch the KISS Demon.

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  146. His opponent: Babazilla.

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  147. What am I, an Aardvark?

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  148. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    The downvoters don't get it

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  149. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    This guy gets it.

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  150. Stevie Richards. I mean he had it all. Timing, talent, the underdog thing. And then he no showed a PPV, and no one ever looked at him the same way again.

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  151. Krispy Kreme McDonaldOctober 31, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Wait, didn't i start the "/thread" thing?


    I really dont remember... Fuck it, any excuse to bury your ascension to the top.


    STOP USING MY CATCHPHRASES!

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  152. *chuckle* Seems legit.


    Thanks to FirePro Wrestling, I know who Giant Baba is.

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  153. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Can you post samples of said degradation?

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  154. Kind of like...
    ..
    .
    ..
    ...your marriage?


    *ducking*

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  155. I'd ask you to change your name to a three similar letter anagram... but changing your last name now would not be cool.

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  156. How long do you have?

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  157. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 31, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    It's best worker not most showers.

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  158. GOAT...Tessmachers ass. Bye

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  159. I think a non stop boring chant the entire match might get the point across.

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  160. AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!


    Fuck you, man. That was worse in my head than the Rikishi/Rodan mashup I had.

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  161. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    Until 5:00 Then I will be pumping that degrading music into my headphones while I work out.

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  162. Chanting "We Want Bryan" during the main event has an effect, though. It's telling the WWE that we don't want a main event of Orton/Big Show.

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  163. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Rakim Allah.

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  164. This guy gets it

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  165. What is this "work out" you speak of?

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  166. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9K23FIqj9E

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  167. Fuck me. I can't come up with a decent oompa loompa reference. They were orange though. Or am I missing the reference entirely?

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  168. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    It's when a chick dances like this:

    http://makeagif.com/i/rSJ6YB

    (Yes I took time out of my busy schedule of Ramen Noodle eating to make this gif...you're welcome.)

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  169. "Hollywood" John Tatum~!

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  170. God's work. Upvote this ASAP, people.

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  171. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    I scrolled past this real quick and I thought it said "He basically created porno."
    If that were the case I'd like to tell than man thank you if he wasn't dead.

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  172. I think Eddie had Missy at a hotter time... might be wrong on that one.

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  173. "Macho Warrior" Ric Savage

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  174. Men on a Mission. P.N. News. the list just goes on and on.

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  175. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    I was surprised no wrestler has never done a mashup of characters like that.
    Ed Leslie and Barry Darsow should do a tag team gimmick wearing a little bit of every gimmick they've ever done.

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  176. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonOctober 31, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    The lifting of heaving weights that is occasionally interrupted by the ogling of cute chicks in yoga pants.

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  177. Hm.


    *pondering*


    Does lifting pizza and ice cream to one's mouth while watching porn count?

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