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Aj styles wwe contract offer

Hey Scott,

Have you heard that wwe apparently offered AJ a deal with a downside that was 20% of his TNA contract? Do you think they did that to make a point about how much tna sucks or is that a accurate reflection of his market value? Would NJPW or AAA or cmll have any interest in him?

Thanks



I'm gonna have to call shenanigans on that one, because AJ's contract was never actually expired and he re-signed for a short-term deal.  If WWE had offered him ANYTHING, then that would be contract tampering and TNA would have cause to sue their pants off.  Unless of course HHH just offered them a title shot at Randy Orton in exchange for dropping the lawsuit.  But that would be STUPID.

Anyway, if true, yes that would be fair market value.  Styles is completely unproven on anything resembling a national stage and has never drawn money on top.  He's not getting any younger and would have to go through developmental for a year to learn the style, and by then he's pushing 40 and whatever small amount of name value he had from TNA is gone.  If AJ was gonna jump, the time was 5 or 6 years ago.  These days he's much better off taking indy bookings and possibly going to NJPW as you noted.  

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  1. ARRRRGH THE BARBARIANNovember 6, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    I'd call BS on it too, just on the premise this means that AJ's deal with TNA would be probably $600K+. Just the base money, although I'm guessing they don't get PPV bonuses. Just a hunch.

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  2. I think Paul London used Battle Without Honor during his time in ROH in 2003. Definitely for his match with Joe at DBD.

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  3. For the brief time I was indy training I was working on an Angel of Death type character based on Sephiroth from Final Fantasy 7 my #1 choice for entrance music was this... starting at about 1:45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKhJXaX2bAU (Paul Oakenfold "Send me an Angel")

    or

    This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59g5R8rwqpY (Smashing Pumpkins "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning")

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  4. Eh, a Devitt feud would be fine, but I don't see him challenging for the IWGP Heavyweight title or anything.. Of note, NJPW's C-show of a PPV last night was pretty bitchin.. Bullet Club is the best thing going today..

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  5. This was my email... but here's a story about Muse: They owe me $20. They were playing a show at The Cotton Club in Atlanta. This was years ago before their first record was released in America. My buddy and I went to go see them in a tiny venue with that held about 200 people. They played about 4-5 songs and the lead singer/guitarist busted his face open with his own guitar. He ran off stage, the band dicked around for a few minutes, said he couldn't return, then left the stage. So, for my money I got about 15 minutes of a rock show. They didn't offer a refund, or a t-shirt or cd, or a make-up show or anything. The next time they played in town was opening for the Cure in a venue that holds 20,000 people and they couldn't even manage to get 200 make up tickets to that show. So, forever and always, fuck Muse.

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  6. Lately I've been using "His Story Repeats Itself" by Chiodos for my personal CAW in the WWE games, other songs I've thought to use in the past include "My World" by Mindless Self Indulgence and "Naked and Famous" by The Presidents of the United States of America.

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  7. Undersized smaller wrestler with a Southern drawl, but a fairly good moveset in WWE, hmmm?
    If you're hard-up for seeing AJ Styles in WWE, I invite you to watch some WWE era Jaime Noble for a piece of what you'd get, minus the rather entertaining "double wide trailer" angle, since they wouldn't write anything that fun anymore.

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  8. PUSA is such an underrated band. I saw them a few years ago and they were so much fun live. Tiger Bomb, Blank Baby, Naked and Famous, Poke and Destroy, Love Everybody, Meanwhile Back in the City, Jennifer's Jacket... man what a fun band.

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  9. Oh yea they are one of my very favorites, anything Chris Ballew does is pretty awesome. The Feelings Hijackers, The Giraffes, SubSet, Chris and Tad, his solo stuff, the Quantum Conundrum soundtrack and more.

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  10. The opening instrumental to "Welcome Home" by Coheed & Cambria. Good -to-great riff that makes me want to punch things. Either that or Dan Severn's old entrance theme...to beat a long-dead horse.

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  11. Strange Wings by Savatage
    *drops mic*

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  12. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryNovember 6, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Something the crowd would sing along to, like "Take On Me". I remember in last year's baseball playoffs when the Nats crowd were singing along, and then Mike Morse got a base hit while the crowd was holding the high note in the chorus. Fucking awesome.

    http://deadspin.com/5951449/nationals-buoyed-by-fans-magical-a+ha-singalongs-to-take-on-me++and-tonights-was-the-best-yet

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  13. This was done as a QOTD fairly recently i think. I maintain now as I did then that old skool Jungle/Drum & Bass is perfectly suited for the bombastic nature of a wrestling entrance. Today's example: Dom & Roland - Can't Punish Me
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y-xakhjgAgM#t=21

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  14. Another example
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni2joG1LEJM

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  15. And one more (since I'm now immersed in Youtube)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-N1aaxcy-pI#t=96

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  16. 4'33", by whomever wishes to perform it.

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  17. Good entrance music should have a strong beat and an instant hook to draw people in. To accomplish this I would probably go with something like "The End of the Innocence" by Don Henley or "The Heart of the Matter" by Don Henley. Sometimes brooding music works well too, in which case "The Boys of Summer" by Don Henley would be an excellent choice. If you have something with a simple chorus, it encourages people to sing along, like maybe "Dirty Laundry" by Don Henley. Songs with danceable rhythms are also good, for example: "All She Wants to do is Dance" by former Eagles singer/songwriter Don Henley.

    I think any of the above songs combined with the right pyrotechnics and posing routine would make for a fantastic entrance.

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  18. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    What a pack of cunts.

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  19. Everything hinges on the character. I'd have wanted to be a fun character, whether face or heel so maybe a nice early 80s New Wave tune. Ghost Town by the Specials would be perfect - the people could do the chorus.

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  20. Gimmick has to fit - perhaps Sunset Grill by Don Henley would work for jobbers.

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  21. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    As long as Sheamus isn't using "I'm Shipping Up To Boston" by Dropkick Murphys, he's useless and his career means nothing.

    Also, "Baby Elephant Walk" should be Randy Orton's theme, because that's probably what's playing a continual loop in his mind.

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  22. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    I swear we've gone over this before, and recently.

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  23. I could see a Zack Ryder coming out to that once he accepts, in complete moral defeat, that he will never even smell a legitimate push again.

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  24. Sheamus is a Tubthumping kinda guy, fella.

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  25. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Also the introduction to Raw should be Vince driving himself to Titan Towers, and the Sopranos theme is playing.

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  26. A recreation of this would be the greatest WrestleMania entrance of all time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvVr2uks0C8

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  27. Stephanie is trying to get there, but she is having a hell of a time trying to parallel park.

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  28. IF you're a big enough star to make the audience wait twenty seconds for you to step out of Gorilla, Mudoney's "You Got It, Keep It Outta My Face" is perfect. Although it's less good for run ins. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XQAI_1-foE

    It shocks me that nobody has taken the Mortal Kombat theme on as their entrance music, as its unbelievably perfect at several levels (although you might need to cut the section with the names of the fighters out)

    Reel Big Fish's "Bad Guy" would be great for a cocky heel, and double perfect for Ziggler's #heel gimmicks where he's kinda winking at the audience. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cLkrveDzt4

    Gutter Twins' "Idle Hands" is perfect for any kind of darker character, and if that Johnny Cash song he sometimes uses weren't so damned perfect I'd suggest it as an update for Taker. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEUmdjgW-r0



    I could keep going for days, but those are the ones that spring to mind.

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  29. "Good entrance music should have a strong beat and an instant hook to draw people in."

    "Number 8" by Barney Gumbel and his Japanese girlfriend.

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  30. Kick em when they're up.
    Kick em when they're down.

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  31. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 1:27 AM

    Let's try and guess cock sizes within the WWE Universe.

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  32. I feel it would be fairly ironic & AMAZING if CM Punk used "Jesus Christ Superstar."

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  33. If you can believe it, Steve Austin actually used this as his theme song in ECW.

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  34. Im a huge fan of entrance music, there way too many for to name, but one of the most coolest entrances was when Raven was ducking Benoit at Starrcade 97 and called Saturn to the ring.

    The air raid siren and him coming down was just super cool to me. WCW wasn't known for their production, and right here it worked for them in my view take a look if u care.

    http://youtu.be/hxALy8ypuJo?t=1h5m01s

    As I got older I thought that the Raven/Benoit program was truly a forgotten classic and definitely worthy to be a main event program, just the fact that you had the NWO in full swing at the time overshadowing it.



    When I used to e-fed I used to alternate between the Halloween main theme and the Phantasm main theme for entrance music.

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  35. "Govinda" by Kula Shaker. Total badass entrance theme.

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  36. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 4:12 AM

    Darren Young - "Back Door Man" - The Doors

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  37. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 4:14 AM

    Kane - "Prelude to Agony" - Type O Negative

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  38. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 4:15 AM

    Daniel Bryan - "Ecstasy Of Gold" - Ennio Morricone

    (Seriously, how has that one not been used?)

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  39. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 4:50 AM

    You know what, motherfucker? I hear about you. I hear about your misogyny. I hear about your homophobia. I am absolutely sick to my stomach about how much you hate gays and how you have an aversion to gay sex. IF YOU DON'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT WRESTLERS' DICKS, YOU CAN FUCK OFF!!!

    ...So, anyway, how big is Michael Cole's penis? I mean, how big you think? I bet he's a fiver.

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  40. You hear about my homophobia? Can you bring me into the loop? That's the first EYE have heard about it.

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  41. The Superman theme by John Williams. It's instantly recognizable, epic and fun

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  42. You're doing it wrong. The proper question is:


    How big is Batista's dick?

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  43. Pens fact for you: men's erect penises are usually proportional to about half the size of your forearm. Think of that next time you see The Big Show.

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  44. Me Against The World by 2pac I always thought would be good.

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  45. Either Cowboys from Hell by Pantera or a shortened mix of Hey Man, Nice Shot by Filter.

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  46. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:00 AM

    Just talk about dicks already.

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  47. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:02 AM

    I bet with that thing tucked between his legs, he never has to walk alone... inside a pit of danger...

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  48. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:05 AM

    Just out of curiosity, I want to see a Big Show sex tape. It'd be like a shaved bear fucking a woman.

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  49. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:05 AM

    Don't be racist.

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  50. That's sexist, you pig.

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  51. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eBmeH0MAmk



    Fits any sport, IMO.

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  52. Sabotage by the Beastie Boys, Juke Joint Jezebel by KMFDM (maybe starting with that short guitar riff 30 seconds in, for that Pavlovian response from the crowd on runs and the like), Lawyers Guns and Money by Warren Zevon, Like Sprewells on a Wheelchair by Dillinger four.

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  53. I have no problem believing the E would have no interest in Styles. He's one of TNA's biggest mistakes.

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  54. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:15 AM

    Soooo..and angle as AJ Lee's number one fan is now out of the question?

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  55. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:18 AM

    "Get Down" by Beanie Sigel: http://youtu.be/u68yKvNIO_U

    Once I become the Champ - "he Champ is here" By Jadakiss: http://youtu.be/4Nz3DL6EXtQ

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  56. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:20 AM

    No, there was another time Zanatude was being racist. I was just reminding him.

    Now, his sexism on the other hand, I don't mind.

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  57. The other day, I said that ol' parallex1978 appears to be pro-gay rape of superheroes, does this help?

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  58. Fine.



    I think Cheney, while ideologically wrong, was a very intelligent man and masterful politician.


    I think Tracy was best personified by Warren Beatty in the 1990 movie.


    Ebersol did a good job running NBC sports.


    IS THAT BETTER MOTHER FUCKER?

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  59. Thank you!


    At least I think...

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  60. If I stretch out my thumb and forefinger as far as I possibly can until it hurts, that's my length from base to tip. But I dunno if this is a universal rule. Or how big a guy's hand is on average.

    I really should have saved this to write into the mailbag with.

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  61. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:22 AM

    You forgot Van Dyke, you son of a bitch.

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  62. INSIST it's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvjLgjtJKsc

    "An' I fight loike me Da' an' all!"

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  63. Also Greyson. I am a complete and utter failure... JUST LIKE YOU!!!!!

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  64. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:23 AM

    That's the sort of thing that makes the BOD great.

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  65. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:23 AM

    His wife is a bodybuilder from what I've seen. There bed would need shocks.

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  66. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:23 AM

    ...Slater, too.

    And In Cider.

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  67. YankeesHoganTripleHFanNovember 7, 2013 at 6:25 AM

    As I used to do theater, and still enjoy it I will go with the Overture to The Phantom of the Opera, (sounds lame but trust me it's badass)

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  68. Muse are hilarious though. I mean, they don't intend to be, the sour-faced bunch of pretentious douches, but they ARE hilarious.

    I mean, just TRY not to sing "I want to break free" by Queen over the top of this recent Muse song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0SgwWmF9w

    When the guitar solo comes in, it's like they're in some kind of amazing special pocket universe where copyright violation can't touch them because they're SO up their own arses, you can't actually reach them to serve them the papers.

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  69. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:26 AM

    According to PWInsider, Darren Young's nickname in the locker room is "Ruler Throat".

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  70. Time 4 Sum Aksion by Redman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbCQKCdzs30

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  71. I should fuck Big Show's wife... just for the novelty

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  72. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:30 AM

    While he's turgidly watching.

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  73. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:31 AM

    Go to the :28 second mark:

    http://youtu.be/1itvEiHxR_4

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  74. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:33 AM

    Kane - "Wrath of Kane" by Big Daddy Kane.

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  75. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:34 AM

    http://youtu.be/fbGkxcY7YFU

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  76. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:34 AM

    While Citizen Kane is playing on the Titantron.

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  77. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:38 AM

    http://youtu.be/LnzYG0ZkrXg

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  78. She's acceptable... but again it is more for the oddity of cuckolding THE 7'5" LARGEST ATHLETE IN THE WORLD

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  79. Pat Patterson Prolapsed!November 7, 2013 at 6:39 AM

    I had forgotten about that one! Yeesh!

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  80. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:39 AM

    I tried to as well, but what has been seen cannot be unseen.

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  81. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:42 AM

    Peachfuzz by KMD
    http://youtu.be/HW17mVZqnjI?t=22s

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  82. Kills - Fried My Little Brains
    Dead Weather - Bone House

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  83. Fudge Tunnel – Random Acts Of Cruelty - If I was a "BUSINESS IS ABOUT TO PICK UP! IT's KANE!"-style hoss. Intro kind of like HHH's old theme (Our Time? My Time?), then is kind of like 'Walk' by Pantera. And you can't beat that for a title.

    Killing Joke – The Pandys Are Coming - if I was part of a stable of 'scary' wrestlers like the New Church, I'd want this.

    Ministry – The Fall or Portishead – Machine Gun - if I was a Raven or Bray Wyatt style cult leader type.

    Therapy? – Teethgrinder - if I was Al Snow or some other 'crazy' gimmick

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  84. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:45 AM

    Cody Rhodes during his "Doctor Doom" phase:

    MF Doom "Rhinestone Cowboy": http://youtu.be/s4iR668Ki3I

    or

    Madvillan "All Caps": http://youtu.be/ewc1hixzYPY

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  85. Just talk about dicks already like the man said!

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  86. You mean like literary classic Moby Dick?

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  87. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 6:49 AM

    One of my favorite roles that Robin Harris played:
    http://youtu.be/Ppqtlo8z95w

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  88. There's a Mr. Nixon on Line 3. He sounds unhappy.

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  89. Fudge Tunnel??? Darren Young?

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  90. Stranger in the AlpsNovember 7, 2013 at 7:17 AM

    I'm going all old school on your asses and I'm saying NO ENTRANCE MUSIC. Also, NO KNEE PADS. Also, a TOWEL AROUND MY NECK. Also, my finisher: NECK VICE. Also, when I cut promos: NO WORDS, JUST A MENACING GLARE TO THE INTERVIEWER AND I WALK AWAY.
    The IWC will either love me or hate me. I won't care because I love to hurt people.

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  91. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 7:19 AM

    ...you're Ronnie Garvin?

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  92. Change your finisher. I suggest a Top Rope Canadian Destroyer, with an extra rotation, a twist, and his head in your trunks. On landing, both of you sell like death, until you kip up, and pin him with a foot on his chest. If you botch the kip-up, he has permission to kick out.

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  93. I figured that's what a whitey would say.

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  94. And it sounds like devitt to wwe is almost a done deal

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  95. More people would see AJ on nxt than have in TNA

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  96. I'd just rip off Jon Jones and use jammin by Bob Marley

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  97. "2x4" by Metallica. The drum intro is perfect for interrupting a promo, and the song has an awesome, grungy "kick your face in" feel to, which is fitting because the song's essentially about getting physical with passive aggressive people, so even better.

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  98. +1 for anything KMFDM.

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  99. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    What I said:

    "His wife is a bodybuilder from what I've seen. Their bed would need shocks."

    What Parallax heard:

    "His WIFE blah blah. Their BED would need shocks."

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  100. You know me so well.


    BTW I hope you will keep the children in the impact thread in line tonight while I am out. (Holding another audition for the future Ex-Mrs. Parallax1978 the 3rd)

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  101. I always thought "Instruments of Destruction" by NRG from the Transformers: The Movie soundtrack would be a great one.

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  102. I'd be very interested on hearing your thoughts on why you feel that way.

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  103. I guess my dream scenario of seeing AJ Styles debuting as a "Paul Heyman Guy" and "The REAL Best In The World" is dead.

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  104. He is fucking useless. He has been getting constant pushes and yet has not improved in any area in ten years. He is awful on the mic, useless as a character, has no presence in the ring and is limited as to what style he can work in the ring. He has only one selling point and that is he's been there since the beginning. He has not developed AT ALL.

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  105. Pitchshifter - WYSIWYG

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7nnPW37tbQ

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  106. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 7, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    I'll try my hardest to provide the filth flarn filth that you've come to expect from me.

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  107. Oasis- F'in In The Bushes. It's the perfect wrestling entrance. Immediately notable first second to pop the crowd, the "you go to hell" bit while you're on the stage, pop pyro, and you walk down the aisle to the guitar riff. (I might have thought about this quite a bit.)

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  108. Wow, I actually disagree with a lot of this.


    To me, he has improved on the mic (decent as opposed to god-awful), has an RVD-like charisma and presence due to his ability in the ring, and is one of the absolute best in-ring performers of the last ten years. True, he may have one "style" that he uses, but I think he's like Flair in that he's able to plug anyone and anything into that style and have a pretty good match.


    I'll definitely agree that he's not very good at playing a character, though, anything other than "guy that goes out and has good matches" doesn't work too well for him.

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  109. I think "The Knife" by Genesis would be a great entrance theme.

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  110. Although Cena really embodies the refrain; that guy's always getting up again.

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  111. Hmmm... I wasn't feeling all the hate Puffy got for his performance at WrestleMania this year, because Victory is about a pretty perfect entrance theme.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJAgGB7jKZU

    Now, that's for the energetic, bad-ass feel. For a cool heel, kinda slacker vibe, I'm riding with an updated, slightly slicker version of sum ol' school Jamaican ish...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i78WgwvOns

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  112. Agree 100%. Oasis are my favorite band and, even though that album is brutal, I immediately thought that song would be the perfect entrance music.
    Also, I'm not an ROH guy, but I believe Nigel McGuiness used it there...

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  113. Wrestling needs more Primus entrance music.

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  114. Please don't say that. Thank you.

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