I will now include the descriptions of the shoot interviews if a trailer is not available so you can see what the interview is about and when it took place.
Here are your choices:
Ted DiBiase
http://www.rfvideo.com/shootwithteddibiase.aspx
Jake Roberts
http://www.rfvideo.com/shootwithjakeroberts.aspx
Magnum TA
http://www.rfvideo.com/shootwithmagnumta2009.aspx
Vote by clicking on the link below. Voting Ends at 8pm on Saturday night.
http://poll.pollcode.com/8367123
Here are your choices:
Ted DiBiase
http://www.rfvideo.com/shootwithteddibiase.aspx
Jake Roberts
http://www.rfvideo.com/shootwithjakeroberts.aspx
Magnum TA
http://www.rfvideo.com/shootwithmagnumta2009.aspx
Vote by clicking on the link below. Voting Ends at 8pm on Saturday night.
http://poll.pollcode.com/8367123
Is it Jake Pre or Post DDP yoga? either way, him.
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ReplyDeleteShould count twice but PollCode disagrees
ReplyDeleteI totally agree that Lawler still could. It's weird, if you listen to his commentary during the attitude era and then you listen to him today it doesn't even sound like the same guy. I don't know if McMahon has finally succeeded in neutering him or if he has just lost passion for the product or what, but it's pretty sad to me. It reminds me of how Heenan had totally checked out of any interest in the product by the end of WCW.
ReplyDeleteThis would be like a million levels of AWESOME.
ReplyDeleteSee that's the thing I've always wondered, so you've beaten the standard bearer of the company, how the hell do you improve off of that? Going from beating Hulk Hogan to beating Rick Rude (no slight against Rick Rude mind you) is a HUGE downgrade.
ReplyDeleteThat's a really good point for why Warrior's title run didn't work. After Hogan, there really wasn't a strong heel challenger for the Warrior. DiBiase? Perfect? Hogan had already beaten those guys or shown he was superior to them, so if the Warrior struggled it made them appear second rate.
ReplyDeleteTriple H had several one-on-one ppv matches before '96. He beat Bob Holly at SummerSlam '95, beat Fatu at IYH 4, and Henry Godwinn at IYH 5. He then beat Droese at IYH 6 to blow off their feud.
ReplyDeleteHe was clearly positioned as above the rest of the lower midcard, so he had some momentum. He was also the iron man of the 1996 Rumble IIRC, so jobbing him to the Warrior like that was somewhat puzzling. I'd always heard he was convinced to do the job because he'd get to win the KOTR, but we know how that played out.
I almost thought you were being snarky with me lol. Yeah the way they played it made it cone across as tasteless ya know?
ReplyDelete1 cent per 1000 views? Somethings up here.
ReplyDeleteSounds like 3 winners to me. But i love me some Mid-Atlantic in the mid 80's so i'll go with Magnum.
ReplyDeleteYou've basically admitted these lists are click-bait to generate traffic, but this was such an enjoyable list.
ReplyDeleteWarrior represents the absolute peak of my young markdom. There could be an all-nude Diva Battle Royal and it wouldn't excite me as much as that Summerslam match with Honky Tonk Man did.
However, I somehow never knew about the Brother Love appearance; I just thought Brother Love had quietly disappeared.
Even though Rude had beaten Warrior before, he just wasn't on his level by that point.
ReplyDeleteVince did a terrible job in building up credible heels. Only other option was to have Warrior beat Savage or someone for the title and then build up to the Hogan match.
ReplyDeleteWithout Mr. McMahon, I think Austin would have fell victim to the same fate.
I'd hope the losers here get their turn the next two weeks... but for this week, I'll go Magnum.
ReplyDeleteSame went for LOD. coming to the ring with Ironman playing looking like the biggest badasses
ReplyDeleteThey will eventually. I have some good ones lined up for next week too.
ReplyDeleteOr the Big Lariat Of Wonder Juxtaposed to an Overhead Backdrop
ReplyDeleteThis. It's sad, really. A lot of the comments he makes amount to things you'd imagine your visiting elderly Aunt asking you while you're trying to watch wrestling. He's almost approaching Art Donovan-levels of inane. And believe me, I was a huge fan of King during the 90s and early-2000s but he's become such a shell of his former self that I wish he was just off the show at this point.
ReplyDeleteI think he even said in a 2011 interview that he basically does this to collect a paycheck. Well, I KNOW he said it, but I just forget where...
I'd say the past couple of years had a few hard picks, namely 2010, 2011, and 2012.
ReplyDeleteCena winning last year was a foregone conclusion.
Plus, Rude had just returned to the company after a hiatus, no? Who do people think should've been plugged into that SummerSlam '90 match. DiBiase?
ReplyDeleteFrom the ones I remember following when watching the product, I'd say 1993 was pretty wide open because you had the Undertaker, Perfect, Savage, and Yokozuna all in it. Flair was also involved and even though he was about to get knocked out of the company, people didn't know that.
ReplyDelete1992 was also wide open in that you had Savage, Flair, Sid, Hogan, Piper, and the Undertaker as threats.
Waltman didn't leave until June that year so I guess they figured at this time that he would stick around even with Hall and Nash handing in their notice.
ReplyDeleteStill funny though.
ReplyDeleteAgreed and that's how I would've booked it. McMahon uses his power to go in at #30, so the fans know if Austin stays in that long McMahon has to do something. Builds something into the match and McMahon can do the heel thing by having his music play, roll into the ring ever so slightly, and then roll back out to resume commentary until only Austin remains.
ReplyDeleteI've had people tell me that Billy winning was a shocker, but I have no idea why. I could see Billy winning the KOTR a mile away by the time of the event. I actually got kicked out of the WWF's AOL chatroom at the time because I told people Billy would beat X-Pac in the final.
ReplyDeleteStill better than Mabel.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad I'm not the only one. Nitro might've drawn a low rating that segment, but I was watching whatever they were doing over that horrendous skit.
ReplyDeleteI haven't gotten to that part of my reviews, but you had some really good stables forming in 1998-1999 that, as you say, people actually were invested in and cared about. DX, the Nation, and the Union blew the Boricuas, DOA, and older Faarooq-led Nation out of the water.
ReplyDeleteAs someone who grew up as a big Warrior fan, I have to admit I never actually knew about his attack on Brother Love which killed off that character. I'd also never thought about the fact that babyfaces had never physically reacted to Brother Love up to this point. Imagine that today - everyone would be screaming about how weak all of the babyfaces were for not having attacked Brother Love sooner.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't say Austin's victory in 1997 was a forgone conclusion. I thought Bret was winning that Rumble by a mile to setup a rematch with HBK in the WrestleMania main event. I was shocked Austin went over, albeit in dubious fashion.
ReplyDeleteAustin winning in 1998 was a guarantee you could take to the bank.
Yeah, that's the thing about this Rumble, even if Vince didn't win it still sucked. Badly. Nothing but Vince, Austin, and a bunch of jobbers until about #20 (really just the jobbers), and it was just booked like absolute shit. Easily the worst Rumble, and it's not even close.
ReplyDeleteI meant 98, yeah. Just hit the wrong key.
ReplyDeleteWasn't Bret supposed to win that Rumble and HBK killed it, saying he didn't want to work with Bret or some shit?
So was HBK in 1995 and Austin in 1997.
ReplyDeleteOh god that fucking sign behind Michaels.
ReplyDeleteWeewee
Cwappy
Weswing
Warrior/Savage at Summerslam 1992 should've been here. Scott credits it as a 'forgotten classic,' but hey, here's a forum for it to be remembered!
ReplyDeleteC'mon now, no love for DiBiase?
ReplyDeleteIf you put Sting in Warrior's place in 1990, he becomes the biggest wrestler of all time.
ReplyDeletewas that the SMAAAAAAAAART MAAAAAAAAARK one?
ReplyDeleteThese are all really good choices. Can't go wrong
ReplyDeleteNah, Rude was always there. He left after the feud was over.
ReplyDeleteI wonder why Earthquake didn't get the match or just turn someone heel cause the heel roster was JTTS at that point.
What about Mr Perfect? Or a heel Jake Roberts?
ReplyDeleteHe was sleeping with my 2 favorite divas of all time. So yes, I hated him with a jealous passion. :)
ReplyDeleteSting's promos weren't great, but he had a certain charisma that WCW fans responded too. Plus Flair liked him and wanted to make him a star, which he probably wouldn't have done for UW. His star was rising in JCP while Warrior was still in WCCW. I don't think it's as straightforward as you're saying.
ReplyDeleteWasn't he "Dingo Warrior" in WCCW?
ReplyDeleteHHH managed ok for himself afterwards
ReplyDeleteI like when HHH was feuding with Sheamus a few years ago how he compared Sheamus picking a fight with him to picking a fight with Warrior and getting his ass kicked.
ReplyDelete"...and insane"
ReplyDeleteThey say the best gimmicks are your real personality turned up to... 1
Right. Many things that happened in 1999 are exclusive to that year, and I don't think they could exist again now, even in kitschy form. What's amazing is that we seemed to understand how ridiculous everything was and scrapped it in 2000.
ReplyDelete"...and the manager of HHH at Wrestlemania 19!"
ReplyDeleteTotal stacked card this time
ReplyDeleteI concur. Carving Dusty's eye out for Thanksgiving gave them positive momentum as faces. They were already badass, but now they were CRUEL badasses.
ReplyDeleteisn't that kind of strange argument?
ReplyDeleteisn't any segment being watched in anticipation of the pay off?
"Is Scott Keith the Netcop or the Gaycop?"
ReplyDeleteone huge problem with a year like 1999 is it seems to have almost no replay value.
ReplyDeleteyou could have even done in a similiar way to what has actually happened. Rock/Austin double elimination and Vince struts into the ring for the cheapest of all victories.
ReplyDeleteHBK in 1996, too.
ReplyDeleteGood call. Screw the Goldust turn, give us Rhodes bros vs. Christian/Sami at Wrestlemania.
ReplyDeleteShocked by the low amount he has received so far.
ReplyDeleteNa, I think Bret winning in 1998 was never planned!
ReplyDeleteNo wonder Shawn didn't want to work with him...
ReplyDeleteAt least Vader (and someone else who's name escapes me at the moment) had an outside chance in 1996. Only other guy that had even a remote chance in 1995 was Owen, and he lasted all of 5 seconds.
ReplyDeleteIf only U.P.Y.O.U.R.S. could've gotten a deal with 7UP at the time. :p
ReplyDeleteSlightly off topic, but a question for Brian: Do you have a favorite company/interviewer for the shoots? Would you say Kayfabe Commentaries is better than Highspots or RF?
ReplyDeleteI think Sean Oliver from Kayfabe Commentaries is by far the best interviewer. I also like his company the best. RF gets most of the bigger names and have produced a lot of good stuff but Rob Feinstein just asks the same questions to everyone he interviews. Highspots can be hit or miss bit the AJ Styles shoot looks intriguing.
ReplyDeleteNope, no snark. It really was misguided stuff. Rey being inspired to use some of Eddie's moves or something would have been fine. The idea of competing for a fake title in his name blurred the wrong lines.
ReplyDeleteIn a certain sense, yes. It's just a matter of how many times you can get away with the anticipation withOUT a pay-off. I'm only saying the This Is Your Life skit was not good in the build up or the pay-off.
ReplyDeleteI recall thinking at the time that it would have been awesome if Mick lured Rock in with all this goofy shit for 30 minutes and, after one-too-many eyerolls Mick snaps and destroys him with a chair-beatdown similar to what he took at Rumble '99. Turns back into dark, brooding Mankind and goes into a weird friend-worship thing with Rock
ReplyDeleteI think there are years where it is perfectly fine to have a foregone conclusion winner. Austin in '98 or Rock in '00 are examples of that. Sometimes it's just best to do a build up and have the hero win
ReplyDeleteTotally agree that Flair should induct Sting. I'm not sure about the Warrior part. I'm in the minority that thinks not much of WWE's target audience even knows who Sting IS, let alone why he has a connection to Warrior.
ReplyDeleteYeah I think Sean tends to be a good interviewer. It always seems like a more free flowing conversation with him rather than RF just asking questions, if that makes sense.
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