I recently saw the best movie of all time.
Soccer Dog: European Cup.
I don't want to ruin anything - but lets just say there's 1) A soccer playing, genetically enhanced dog 2) A second soccer playing, genertically enhanced dog that uses a regular toilet. 3) A guy who is NOT John Lithgow. 4) Scottish people! 5) The worst CGI Soccer you'll see in your life.
Thus:
What's your favorite so-good-its-bad movie? Specifically movies that didn't INTEND to be bad, but turned out that way and ended up like campy, silly fun.
The above does NOT include movies like Sharknado as I'm in the camp that if you intentionally make a bad movie, it loses all camp and 'silly fun' value because the joy in such flicks comes from the unintended failings of the director and film crew while trying to make a mostly decent movie. Not that I think the folks making soccer dog thought they were about to win an Oscar, but the 'bad' in that feels more genuine than the bad in a SCI-FI movie or what not.
Also Toss in: On The Line, The Room, and Plan 9 from Outer Space
Soccer Dog: European Cup.
Thus:
What's your favorite so-good-its-bad movie? Specifically movies that didn't INTEND to be bad, but turned out that way and ended up like campy, silly fun.
The above does NOT include movies like Sharknado as I'm in the camp that if you intentionally make a bad movie, it loses all camp and 'silly fun' value because the joy in such flicks comes from the unintended failings of the director and film crew while trying to make a mostly decent movie. Not that I think the folks making soccer dog thought they were about to win an Oscar, but the 'bad' in that feels more genuine than the bad in a SCI-FI movie or what not.
Also Toss in: On The Line, The Room, and Plan 9 from Outer Space
I feel this discussion pretty much starts and stops with The Room. The director was hoping it would be this great drama, but the scripting, acting, and editing were so bad, that it's mostly watched these days as something of a dark comedy. Even worse, the director himself retconned it to be just that all along after it became popular... but we all know he's really just full of shit.
ReplyDeleteDemolition Man. Fucking love that flick.
ReplyDeleteStreetfighter: The Movie
ReplyDeleteWas about to say ''The Room'' and leave it at that too.
ReplyDeleteLike Johnny B Badd vs. Arn Anderson, there's a lot of guilty pleasures out there.
ReplyDeleteCrank 2, Con Air and Street Fighter: The Movie all spring to mind.
Yeah, they had some pretty terrible stuff sometimes. Saturday Night matches making their way onto Nitro
ReplyDeleteI don't think there is something like "so-bad-its-good" movie (that's actually a typo in this question, isn't it?). either I like it (than it's a good movie) or I don't (= bad movie).
ReplyDeleteI don't know (and don't care) if I "get" a film like "Big Lebowsky" the way the Coen brothers intended - but it's irrelevant to me. and I don't care if Sylvester Stallone actually thinks that there is a valuable "political message" to the last Rambo film - I personally see it as a mindless, stupid and violent (but also: totally entertaining) action flick that has no further "meaning" to me.
Yeah, I should totally go back to skool! YOUR SHURE DEARD GOT ME THARE, DUGGIE! Yee-haw.
ReplyDeleteThe right answer, war child, is point break.
ReplyDelete(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
ReplyDeleteMy favorite movie ever!!! Bros for life.
"is this a school for *ants*!?!?!"
Wouldn't he be just as happy with a second apartment near Full Sail?
ReplyDeleteIt's going to be hilarious when they announce that the third participant is The Big Show. *blushes* Why, Vince, you shouldn't have.
ReplyDeleteThey had way too much filler on ppv's back then.
ReplyDelete"Please welcome into the WWE HALL of SCUM class of TWO THOUSAND and SCUM-TEEN....JAKE THE SCUM ROBERTS!!!!"
ReplyDeleteIt's a legit good film,has some nice satire.
ReplyDeleteMortal Kombat,the first is fun,the sequel is a abomination.
ReplyDeleteThat's probably true, which is why the match will consist of a 40-minute career retrospective and a 30-minute promo. Combine that with the 60-minute broadway he'll have with himself, and you'll think you've died and gone to.....I don't know where I'm going with that: you'll probably just think you died.
ReplyDeleteWould Fired Up count? I thought it would be terrible, my counsins insisted it was great and they were right.
ReplyDeleteExactly. All they need to do is defend them once in a while.
ReplyDeleteTwo matches for the U.S. title per month on Smackdown or Raw if the two guys involved are getting hot. One to two matches for the IC title per month, but always on Raw.
As long as they don't call it the TV title.
ReplyDeleteI don't keep up with the pictures.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you on Con Air. I hated Crank 2 though; an utterly terrible film.
ReplyDeleteListen you snot-nose little shit, I was takin' shrapnel in Khe Sanh when you were crappin' in your hands and rubbin' it on your face.
ReplyDeleteCon Air and Street Fighter are scientifically awesome. Anyone who disagrees is a terrorist
ReplyDeleteIt's 'Annihilation' shirley?
ReplyDelete"I was at a day spa...D.A.I.Y.E."
ReplyDeleteI'm such a stiller comedy fan. It's such a simple formula...put Stiller in a ridiculous over the top role and have people make fun of him for 90 minutes. Never fails. Don't know if you've seen tropic thunder but I'd give anything for them to do a Simple Jack spin off movie
Right - but don't you think there's a different KIND of enjoyment in watching a movie where Rambo slices off a guy's head with a machete for over-the-top fun versus say a movie like In The Valley of Ellah where the enjoyment comes from its message and writing and such?
ReplyDeleteAgreed on Con Air - an example of a movie not being so far up its own ass to not have FUN with its premise of a buncha crazy people on a plane.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but I think it was intended to be just another shitty Sly action flick.
ReplyDeleteI love how he cusses out the swear jar machine to get toilet paper.
ReplyDeleteThird man is Hogan.
ReplyDeleteIn all honesty, you have to get Big Show onto WrestleMania somehow.
ReplyDeleteNot sure what BoD consensus is but movies like Hudson Hawk or Last Action Hero kinda fit this bill for me. Both I think not the greatest but mismanaged by marketing so you had scores of people going in expecting one thing and instead getting a kind of goofy take on their genres.
ReplyDeleteI agree. I guess I understand jamming the cards full of dudes since they didn't have 12 ppvs a year back then. Still, it was a bit much to have 4 hours of filler
ReplyDeleteNow, now, let's not go quoting his mom.
ReplyDeletethey have talkies now
ReplyDeletenot sure if they do it anymore, but a couple theaters here in town (single screen movie houses) would have semi-regular screenings of it
ReplyDeletewow, seriously?
ReplyDeleteBuy the DVD for special voiceover commentary from HHH!
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely fits the bill. Last Action Hero is great big dumb fun that's better when you're a big fan of great big dumb action movies. The bit with Stallone as the Terminator is great, too. It was kind of a flop because I think it was a little too meta and a little too comedy, but that monologue by the villain when he enters the real world is fucking awesome.
ReplyDeleteHere, the bad guys can win!
Actually never saw an issue with this one, but then I watched it at 13 and I'm not on the hate Keanu bandwagon.
ReplyDeleteA few years ago I binged at Target and got a couple of those three-unrelated-movies-in-one-pack sets because they were full of movies like these. I know movies like Dirty Work, UHF, Airheads & such aren't "good" movies, but you don't have to be good to be awesome.
ReplyDeleteThe real winner for me from those sets was Freddy Got Fingered. I hadn't seen it since I was a little kid in theaters (with my mom, Jesus), and watching it as an adult was fascinating just to think that Tom Green was once so popular that someone gave him millions of dollars to put THAT on the silver screen...
"I drove through three states wearing a girl's ribcage as a hat."
ReplyDeleteEverything about Con Air is spectacular... except Nic Cage. Which is kinda important.
Dirty Work is absolutely amazing.
ReplyDeleteOh, I'd argue to death that's it's one of the greatest things ever achieved my man, but it's not the same kind of "great" as a Goodfellas or No Country For Old Men or Citizen Kane or Dunston Checks In.
ReplyDeleteBuckaroo goddamn Banzai. I love the director's absolute dedication to the premise that Buckaroo Banzai and the Hong Kong Cavaliers actually exist and served as advisers on the movie, which is actually a documentary.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the novelization is written from the first-person POV of Reno, and is interspersed with him fretting about Pecos's mission in Tibet and the ongoing threat of Hanoi Xan.
Dirty Work is my favorite film of all time
ReplyDeleteHello, real cops?
ReplyDeleteUHF right off the top of my head although I wouldn't consider that a bad movie. In fact by all accounts it should have been terrible and was just tremendous.
ReplyDelete"Put the bunny back in the box..."
ReplyDeleteFirst thought: Killer Klowns from Outer Space. But then I read the the paragraph after the question.
ReplyDeleteNext thoughts: Dodgeball has to rank up there. And definitely UHF.
I just got my 11 year old nephew into Weird Al (I sold him with "Albuquerque"), and I loaned him my UHF DVD. When he asked me what it was about, I told him "it's about Weird Al writing a story that gives him an excuse to do as many TV and movie parodies as he can."
ReplyDeleteNote to self: I DON'T WANT TO LIVE.
ReplyDeleteYeah I think there definately has to be an element of genuineness to the production. For example "On The Line" was naturally a corporate produced movie trying to get all the people from N*Sync in it, but it has such a 90s innocence about it. You have Lance Bass playing a straight male who falls in love with the woman who plays Sloan from Entourage, so he seeks advice from Jerry Stiller and Dave Foley, and for some reason mcG is there and so is Al Greene.
ReplyDeleteUHF was funny and genuine even though it was technically a 'bad' movie.
I believe this needs furthur explanation. I am not going tow wiki it.
ReplyDeleteAirheads is another one. It's not a good movie, but wildly entertaining thanks to its 'star' power.
ReplyDeleteEarly WMs could have benefitted from an hour-long "pre-show". Turn some of the stinkers into dark matches.
ReplyDeleteThe metric system debate was back in the 70's... I'm sure Vince knows about that one by now.
ReplyDeleteAlso. I can't believe I forgot this. But what about Commando? It's really not a good movie, but it's so ridiculously absurd that it becomes awesome in the process.
ReplyDelete"Nothing makes me sadder than the agent lost his bladder in the... air..plane.
ReplyDeleteWrestlemania X8 says hello.
ReplyDeleteBTW, I can't remember which one of you it was that was going through "Breaking Bad" on Netflix, but just so you know, they've put the rest of the final season up. YAY
ReplyDeleteI'm not gonna lie, I love "Batman & Robin". I think it's legitimately funny, Arnold and Uma have a blast, and actually the Alfred stuff is well-done. It's not a well-made film -- plot threads go nowhere, too much filler, a half-hour too long, Alicia Silverstone in general -- but it entertains the crap out of me, which is more than I can say for "Batman Returns".
YEAH, I FUCKING SAID IT.
Yeah, I think it was a bit ahead of its time and also didn't quite articulate what kind of movie it was in its marketing. Plus it opened soon after Jurassic Park, which was trampling everything in its path like a motherfucking T. Rex.
ReplyDeleteI've always wondered how they work; closest explanation I've seen is you use two to scoop then one to wipe.
ReplyDeleteHe was in fat camp... sorry, OVW... at that point IIRC.
ReplyDeleteAHM GONNA SHOW YEW DERE IS A GAWD.
ReplyDelete*no-sells bullet, cleans house...er, plane*
I, too, have always felt that Last Action Hero never really got the credit it deserved. I think if it had waited just five or ten years to come out, it probably would have received a kinder response.
ReplyDeleteThey call me Johnny-23 because I've got 23 rape convictions.
ReplyDeleteThey'd call me Johnny-600 if they knew the truth...
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai: Across the Eighth Dimension. Starring Peter Weller as the titular character, a martial artist/physicist/brain surgeon/musician/philosopher, and John Lithgow as an Italian scientist driven murderously insane by the spirit of an alien from Planet Ten (by way of the Eighth Dimension) that possessed him when he got his head stuck in a wall. The creators built up a huge mythology about the Banzai universe, most of which doesn't show up anywhere in the movie. Also includes Clancy Brown dying because Christopher Lloyd spit an alien bug at him, Yakov Smirnoff as the National Security Advisor, and a woman named John.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, that is the epitome of VINTAGE ARNOLD in my book. The steel drum soundtrack by James Horner is amazing.
ReplyDeleteSee, I disliked Crank because it didn't go far enough.
ReplyDeleteCrank 2 is a stupid, stupid film that went far enough OTT to be properly fun.
(IMO).
Also, urban legend says that the script for the never-produced sequel (Buckaroo Banzai vs. the World Crime League) was later re-purposed, grafted onto a story idea about a guy in a truck, and turned into Big Trouble in Little China.
ReplyDeleteMinor threadjack: I changed my text tone to Bad News Barrett saying "I'M AFRAID I'VE GOT SOME BAD NEWWWWWWS!!!"
ReplyDeleteI regret nothing.
I am watching this as soon as humanly possible
ReplyDeleteAnd yet, my favorite scenes (the fire hose, Wheel of Fish) doesn't have him in it.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. It's a fantastic pre-drinking film.
ReplyDelete''Those were $500 sun-glasses, asshole...''
I don't think I would have liked Crank 2 anyway
ReplyDeleteOh god, that film. Mugatu rejecting his latte kills me every time.
ReplyDeleteAlso, one of the best lines in the movie was ad-libbed; Ben Stiller was trying to redo the take of "But why male models?" but Duchovy just rolled with it with the wonderful "....You serious? I just...I just told you that, a moment ago."
That movie had a great cast. I love showing this Indian dude I know Ghandi 2.
ReplyDeleteIn my mind, they're canon to each other, just like Die Hard 1 is to Family Matters (Al moved his family to Chicago and changed their name to protect them from possible retaliation).
ReplyDeleteWait, I thought you said you watched it?
ReplyDeleteLinden Ashby should have a much better career, he NAILED it as Cage.
ReplyDelete"Sonya...you go on ahead, find out what that was. Liu and I will stay right here!"
I watch Batman Forever probably once or twice a year, I love that movie. Like, why does Dick Grayson move in with Bruce Wayne? Dude was like 26 when they were making that movie, get an apartment or something.
ReplyDeleteThe Burton Batman movies are interesting to me. The first one I'd say is a "good" movie (but not a good Batman movie if that makes sense), and the second is so balls-out weird that I really can't say anything about its quality. It did give us one of the greatest Walken lines of all time, "Bruce Wayne? Why are you dressed like Batman?"
Would the Rundown count?
ReplyDeleteNo; it was critically well-received and made bank on DVD. It's legitimately a terrific action movie.
ReplyDeleteThe Rock & Seann William Scott as Power Man and Iron Fist. BOOK IT, MARVEL.
ReplyDeletePeter Berg has been talking about a Rundown sequel as of late. With Rocky a legitimate box office draw (Rundown was his second headlining movie, so he was still a novelty back then), it would do good (best for) business and would be fun to have. I hope they do it, even though lack of Walken would make it hard to top the first.
ReplyDelete"Do you understand THE CONCEPT?!...of the Tooth Fairy?"
UTAH! GIMME TWO!
ReplyDeleteJBL is rubbing off on him.
ReplyDeleteI used to masturbate. Constantly!
ReplyDeleteHe and Lambert were the best things on the film.
ReplyDeleteHasn't he still never seen Jaws? I'm not so positive.
ReplyDeleteI love both Crank films,I think they are the best thing Statham did in his career.
ReplyDeleteChristopher Lambert was a casting that should not have worked, but damn he killed it, as did Cary Tagawa doing perfect slimeball as Shang....and the guy who played Kano. GODDAMMIT, NEARLY PERFECT CASTING EVERYWHERE.
ReplyDeleteSays a lot about the movie's surprising quality that Boon & co. retconned a lot of stuff to fit the movie. People forget that Raiden had the bad world-blows-up ending in the original MK game.
Adam Sandler's click is guilty pleasure of mine,his death scene in the movie is actually touching.
ReplyDeleteSurprisingly, one of the greatest pinball tables ever, by the way.
ReplyDeleteMake it so that its just the ringtone for work or something.
ReplyDeleteThis and Silent Hill 1(although I would've liked if they actually did the whole SH 2 plot instead of the one used in the film) are the only REALLY GOOD video game adaptations
ReplyDeleteI also love Street Fighter as a so-bad-is-good type of value,is my Favorite JCVD film and don't regret saying it.
LOL, but I actually LIKE my job! And it works for a text because it's so concise. And probably carries bad news.
ReplyDeleteJust call Pacino and give him some coke.
ReplyDeleteLAH has a great 1st and 2nd act,the final 30 minutes with the whole reality drop the pacing down.
ReplyDeleteBeat me to it, a pretty open and shut case.
ReplyDeleteI adore Birdemic (and its sequel), but I don't think that's necessarily what you're going for with this question.
ReplyDeleteIn the above equation, the variable of ? = H.
ReplyDeleteI don't get why they edit this shit.
ReplyDeleteGuest timekeeper: HBK, guest ring announcers: The Outlaws, guest commentary team: Waltman / Nash
ReplyDeleteI'll take some roster depth over Kofi vs. ADR part 86.
ReplyDeleteRegarding the New Jack edits, is there a lawsuit or something else that forced him to be omitted? Or did he do something egregious?
ReplyDeleteDude. IT'S NEW JACK.
ReplyDeleteIt's probably because Natural Born Killaz played on repeat through all of his matches and they don't want to pay to use it.
ReplyDeleteHmmm, that's strange that a lot of in house music got edited. I pointed out that they edited Primo and Epico's theme on Survivor Series 2012.
ReplyDelete"Also, New Jack fans will be disappointed"
ReplyDeleteSo, New Jack?
That makes a lot of sense since it says all his run-ins (except one) are intact.
ReplyDeleteThey should just dub "Stand Back" over all of New Jack's matches.
ReplyDeleteOrton vs. Batista vs. ??? = Profit?
ReplyDeleteI like to think Paul E thought, "New Jack's a shitty wrestler, but if the company ever goes bankrupt and if I have to sell the video footage to someone else, if I play this music in the background of his garbage matches, no one will want to pay to license it, and thus no one will ever have to suffer through his matches again."
ReplyDeleteAn identical list showed up on 411 earler today.
ReplyDeleteThere's another match in the early shows between Ogaya & Shinya Hashimoto and the remains of Hall and Nash.
ReplyDeleteI would be happy if they would also be so kind as to edit Mojo Rawley out of everything forever.
ReplyDeletei posted this in today's network thread
ReplyDeletethey dubbed over it on 24/7 and never took out any of his appearances on hardcore tv
ReplyDeleteI don't get hype, I stay...zzz. That is a gimmick-exposing wrestler.
ReplyDeleteyeah; i linked to it in today's network thread
ReplyDeleteSince no one is using it, maybe New Jack can ask Vince to borrow some footage for his induction into the garbage man hall of fame. From what I've seen of his matches, this seems the more appropriate use. Picture it: a stop sign, a double tub sink, and a do-rag all in a graffiti'd glass case. Beautiful.
ReplyDeleteI for one am glad New Jack is no where to be found. Not a fan. Not.a.fan.
ReplyDeleteDDPYoga will be mentioned somewhere between 1 and 73 times.
ReplyDeleteI'm Canadian and getting the Network seems more complicated than I'm up for at the moment. So you guys have your little live stream pay per view tonight...anyone who wants to watch Dawson's Creek on Netflix come with me.
ReplyDeleteOh, and so everyone know: everything's region-blocked aside from WCW Uncensored 1995 for some reason.
ReplyDeleteGo ahead and try
http://network.wwe.com/video/v31365109
Lol!
ReplyDeleteI can't believe they took Paula Cole out of the Netflix version of that show...
ReplyDelete"Also, New Jack fans will be disappointed."
ReplyDeleteI'm disappointed there are New Jack fans.
If you are 400+ pounds or Tommy Rich's lumberjack friend, the Ass Splash is not an acceptable finisher.
ReplyDeleteBrilliant.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who criticizes the network should be stoned.
ReplyDeleteDo these edits really bother people?
ReplyDeleteWhy wouldn't you include a New Jack match? That's actually really lame.
ReplyDeleteCutting out Bret/Undertaker from One Night Only? That match was amazing and that PPV was one of their best from 97. That's pretty irritating to hear.
Some of the music is really bizarre (some strange stuff removed, some surprising stuff still in, some like Goldberg where they change some of it but not all of it), but it's really a minor "issue". I'm disappointed that DDP, Jericho, and Raven apparently don't have their WCW music, because I liked those three themes, but it's really not a big deal.
ReplyDeleteCutting matches by using the home videos is pretty dumb, though, but ah well.
Don't really care about New Jack. I didn't really watch ECW regularly, didn't his music play through his matches or something? Maybe that's why.
WWE is sometimes weird about music. They used Goldberg's WCW theme in his Raw debut (implying they had the rights to it) and still have it on a lot of the Network PPVs, but for awhile they went back and edited it to his WWE music, and a few shows at least (Spring Stampede 99 for sure) use the WWE version. Not really clear on why, but whatever.
ReplyDeleteThe real music was a huge part of ECW.
ReplyDeleteStrangely they edited out The Smoking Gunns entrance from SummerSlam 95.
ReplyDeleteIt's horseshit. It's like watching Steve Austin's entrance without the glass breaking.
ReplyDeleteThat's a random thing to edit. How so?
ReplyDeleteSo Bret Hart can look forward to getting screwed again.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that dude that would pimp t-shirts during the show was talking during it? They did the same thing for HBK's KOTR 95 entrance.
ReplyDeleteHe has a good look and gimmick, but dude won't get anywhere with that finish.
ReplyDeleteNew Jack is a terrible wrestler but there isn't any point to showing ECW without him.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that is the reason. According to that list, SummerSlam 1995 is one of the shows where WWE used the Coliseum Video version for the Network, and Coliseum always edited out those merchandise plugs. Shawn Michaels entrance for the ladder match, once he is in the ring, is edited, too, for the same reason.
ReplyDeleteI have the SummerSlam Anthology set, and both entrances are not edited on that.
The music edits are annoying when they're not needed (editing out the in-house, WWE-owned song in the Savage/Elizabeth video at SummerSlam 1991).
ReplyDeleteAnd entire matches being cut out is complete bullshit, especially given the "uncut" promises given about this network.
Sure, but would you prefer they just not show ECW at all? Licensing music can get expensive, especially when there's a lot of it and its for a streaming video thing as opposed to a one time PPV use.
ReplyDeleteRemember when New Jack was going to come in and feud with Cena... with that whole stabbing in a night club angle? Then they turned it over to Jesus Aguilera or something and then he left. Great times.
ReplyDeleteNew Jack could have worked 96/97 in the WWE. Bring him in as the enforcer of the Nation and keep him confined to hardcore matches.
ReplyDeleteNow how am I going to see Candyman Brad Armstrong vs. JW Storm from Halloween Havoc '90?! :(
ReplyDeleteWhy'd they cut that match out? Highly underrated and I think it was better than their SummerSlam match.
ReplyDeleteI think even the most hardcore of hardcore completionists will be fine with the New Jack edits.
ReplyDeleteAnd people said Heyman couldn't book a blowoff!
ReplyDeleteNot at all actually. Im a hardcore completionist and will be staying away from any show that edits him out or butchers Sandman's entrance, soooo im down to about maybe 5% of shows to grab
ReplyDeleteThe music thing annoys me. We are talking about maybe 100 matches in the entire video library that won't be shown. If this list wasn't made, I'd bet most people wouldn't even notice most of the edits and unsound matches.
ReplyDeleteYES
ReplyDeleteIt was sooo bad though. Shitty b-roll hip hop beat with dubbed in audience, ugh
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean by region-blocked? That PPV worked fine for me (I'm in the US)...
ReplyDeleteThey didn't...for some reason Dawson's Creek changed theme songs later in its run...
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone have/had NHL Center Ice for PS3? If so, any reviews? I just discovered my dog chewed my cable cord and a guy can only watch the Creek so much.
ReplyDeleteI just watched Living Dangerously '00 and New Jack's match was in, along with a pretty cool dub:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX7eYOLvaP4
I actually like a few of the dubbed themes they use. Would like to get my hands on them. Would obviously rather they just used the original themes for ECW, but y'know.
Would you like access to a Star Wars trilogy with no Boba Fett, random edits, and half the music changed? Or would you just be happy to have it available in some form?
ReplyDeleteFuck yes.
ReplyDeleteAs in 'only Yanks can watch it.'
ReplyDeleteSo you're good.
Unedited and uncensored means unedited and uncensored.
ReplyDeleteThen you would be someone who would have no idea what region blocked means.
ReplyDeleteFluffer: Sean Waltman.
ReplyDeleteI definitely prefer totally unedited, but with some wiggle room for things that should never have existed in the first place. Like New Jack.
ReplyDeleteThat was the year before"
ReplyDeleteYeah. Or maybe a Survivor Series-style multi-man match to trim some of the fat
ReplyDeleteI always wondered how Paul E. got around that, no way he was paying for all the music.
ReplyDeleteScott Norton always looked like a legit badass to me. He got sort of lost in the shuffle of the nWo B-team (still no idea why he was an nWo member to begin with). Not saying he would have been a big star or anything, but he could have made a convincing ass-kicker with a bit of a push
ReplyDeleteI respectively disagree. New Jack would've been a little too much for the WWF, even during the Attitude era. I personally don't think he would've been a good fit at all, even as an enforcer of the Nation.
ReplyDeleteTwo times, two times, two times?
ReplyDeleteThe rereleases with edits did tons of money, so the answer is obviously yes.
ReplyDeleteDon't see why they can't just dub some generic hip-hop crap over New Jack's matches. Even if it's awkward and drowns out Joey's commentary, big deal. I don't care about New Jack either way. But they should present every match from every pay-per-view....as advertised.
ReplyDeleteLuckily, the free trial is still going for another day, so you guys know exactly what you're getting and can cancel before you get charged.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, but I'm not personally going to declare the whole thing ruined or refuse to watch any ECW because a guy I was indifferent toward isn't on it.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah same here.
ReplyDeleteOutside of forks, staple guns, and f bombs, nothing he did was any different from what was going on in the attitude era.
ReplyDeleteJesus...that's the only one he has missed, isn't it?
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna go out on a limb and say that it may be due to different licenses. Whatever licenses they had were probably only for broadcast and rebroadcast, the rules got sticky when the internet allowed for "on demand" access to movies and music. When you play a song in an arena or live broadcast there is one license, but when you make it "on demand" there is another license. I used to run a old school music video site and even though I was given music videos from record companies as promotional, and I was allowed to show it on TV as much as I wanted, I had to apply to license them again for my site. Even though most of the videos I had were from the 80's and 90's it would have cost me too much to license them all, so I decided not to do it anymore.
ReplyDeleteLex Luger has been removed from all shows, because he's never actually rode on a luge.
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly why I hate people.
ReplyDeleteI've had Center Ice for years. If your team is out of market, it's a must. You don't always get your teams feeds which drives me crazy.
ReplyDeleteHope and Prayer.
ReplyDeleteYes. And I don't even have the network
ReplyDeleteYet you've never seen a Randy Savage match?
ReplyDeletePeople, who complain about it, are people who just like to complain. They search frantically looking for things that are wrong so they can then should "hey look at me, look at what I found that was wrong." I enjoy watching the network and couldn't give a damn about these edits.
ReplyDeleteTank Abbot putting a knife to Big Al's throat screaming "I could fucking kill you!" at Superbrawl 2000 has NOT been edited out. Wow. Wow.
ReplyDeleteEven WWE editing team doesnt feel like sitting thru WCW 2000 ppv's to edit
The Complete New Jack edit of his match at Living Dangerously 99 is unfortunate, because that also meant cutting out the most epic Joel Gertner promo of all time:
ReplyDelete"Joel 'I shoot out a full condom filla'...and it tastes LIKE vanilla'...Gertner."
All his other ppv promos are on there virtually unedited though.
Coliseum Video edits are pretty easy to detect, as are the 3-hour shows cut down to 2 (Big Events editing was pretty atrocious, though the show was pretty bad anyway, so maybe I should be thankful). I do kinda like some of the Coliseum In Your House releases because they have decent "Exclusive" dark matches. Anyway, I just like me some completion, so "uncut and uncensored," as advertised, would be nice.
ReplyDeleteSeriously. And they are bleeping out words like "bitch" and "ass" to boot. Thank Christ they are not going black and white with blood like they did for a short while with Classics.
ReplyDeleteSo, Taz has been f'ing and Jeff'ing for the past 5 minutes at the start of November to Remember '99 - No problems here!
ReplyDeleteNot bleeped??
ReplyDeleteHow about the epically great Dudley's promo in Dayton, Ohio? The one with the mom and daughter in the front row?
ReplyDeleteYup. On there and virtually unedited. Heat wave 99. And also one of Gertner's best. The Phantom of the Opera mask he wears is phenomenal.
ReplyDeleteHopefully Vader's "I'm a fat piece of shit" promo against himself is on there too.
ReplyDelete