Thunder
Date:
October 22, 1998
Location:
Tingley Coliseum, Albuqurque, New Mexico
Commentators:
Lee Marshall, Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan, Mike Tenay
Reviewed by Tommy Hall
It's
the very last show before Halloween Havoc and we're actually coming
off a good show on Monday with every major PPV match getting some
focus. Nothing has been announced for tonight but that's usually the
case coming into Thunder. I'm sure we'll get plenty of videos on the
two main events though. Let's get to it.
The
announcers talk about Hogan attacking Horace on Monday and call it a
horrible act.
We
look at Goldberg and Page nearly brawling after Goldberg cost Page a
match against Jericho.
Super
Calo vs. Rey Mysterio Jr.
Calo
takes over with some kicks to the ribs to start and gets two off a
shoulder block. A missile dropkick gets the same and Calo hooks a
seated abdominal stretch to slow things down. Back up and Calo
throws Rey to the apron before sending him to the floor for a big
dive. Totally one sided so far. Back in and Rey climbs corner to
hit a nice headscissors followed by the yet to be named 619 back
inside. Calo gets caught in the ropes and the top rope legdrop to
the back of his head gets two. Super gets to his feet and goes up,
only to get crotched and taken down with a hurricanrana for the pin.
Rating:
C-. Nice fast paced match to
start things off here but there wasn't much to it. It's nice to see
Mysterio back and mostly healthy though as no one could keep up with
him when he was at even 85-90%. Calo looked better than usual here,
but that doesn't really say much as he isn't one of the better
luchadores.
Post
match Eddie and the LWO comes out to offer Rey a spot but he throws
the shirt back at Eddie and leaves. Chavo
watches with a smile on his face from the entryway.
Video
on Page vs. Goldberg.
Here's
Page for a quick chat. Monday was nothing but intensity and it makes
him think of Goldberg as even more of a champion. The Diamond Cutter
is enough to beat him though because he's next. On Sunday, Goldberg
will feel the BANG.
Ad
for the Mastercard.
Alex
Wright vs. Johnny Swinger
Wright
cranks on the arm to start and puts Swinger down with a fireman's
carry takeover. Johnny comes back with an armbar of his own and a
Russian legsweep has Wright in trouble. A spinwheel kick puts
Swinger down and Alex drapes him ribs first over the top rope.
Swinger comes back with a hard shot to the chest but gets dropkicked
out of the air, setting up a neckbreaker to give Wright the pin.
Rating:
D+. Just a squash here with
Alex looking good as almost always. I'm still not sure why he never
got a huge push but the thick accent might have had something to do
with it. Or maybe that this is WCW and it's a good day if they can
tie their shoes properly. Swinger never did anything for me but he
was fine for something like this.
We
look at the Steiners brawling on Monday.
Video
on Sting vs. Hart closing Nitro. Tony accuses Heenan of being a
snitch for the NWO. Heenan: “I am not!” Tony: “That's true.
You're a liar, a traitor, a coward and a snitch.”
TV
Title: Kanyon vs. Chris Jericho
Jericho
is defending and this has some serious potential. Kanyon does his
Who Better bit with Jericho putting bunny ears up behind his head.
Chris takes the mic and says the real question is Who Better Than
Jericho. Kanyon doesn't take kindly to gimmick infringement and the
fight is quickly on. Jericho knocks him to the floor with a shoulder
and we take and early break.
Back
with Jericho getting two off the Lionsault as we see Raven for the
first time, looking on from the apron. Jericho does his long stride
and Kanyon sends him face first into the buckle to take over. The
superplex from the middle of the rope (not the corner) puts Jericho
down for two as the fans get distracted by something in the audience.
Jericho counters a suplex into a reverse suplex for two but Kanyon
comes back with a swinging neckbreaker for the same.
The
announcers talk about Raven looking distracted as Jericho scores with
a gutbuster but can't get the Liontamer. An electric chair into a
flapjack gets two on the champion but Jericho fights out of a
superplex. Jericho tries a missile dropkick but hits the referee
(Billy Kidman according to Tony and Lee) which draws in Raven. The
Even Flow is easily countered into the Liontamer and Raven taps,
which is good enough for a submission win for Jericho.
Rating:
C+. Good while it lasted but
the match was more about Raven than anything else. It's nice to see
Jericho get a win for a change, even if he was acting more like a
face while doing so. The Raven story is interesting as he's lost his
edge without the Flock and could have some good stories as a result.
Clip
from the new Kurt Russell movie Soldier.
We
see Hogan beating up Horace and Warrior on Monday
Saturn
vs. Norman Smiley
A
lockup goes nowhere so Norman makes his chest dance to entertain
Saturn. Apparently Saturn is more of a song than dance man as he
throws Smiley down with a beal before dropping him with a t-bone
suplex for two. Norman picks the ankle but Saturn is quickly in the
ropes before anything can be done. A neckbreaker sends Smiley to the
floor but he comes back in with a nice sunset flip for two.
Since
this is a pretty good technical match so far, the announcers are
talking about Horace. Saturn slams him down but misses a top rope
splash, allowing Norman to take over with some uppercuts. A tiger
bomb gets two for Smiley but Saturn drills him with a superkick.
There's a belly to belly to Norman followed by the Death Valley
Driver for the pin.
Rating:
C. The match didn't have time
to go anywhere but it was nice while it lasted, much like the
previous match. Smiley is a very sound technical guy and could
actually keep up with Saturn on the mat. Saturn's superkick always
looked good though and it nailed Smiley in the jaw here. Nice little
match.
Lex
Luger vs. Scotty Riggs
Feeling
out process to start until Luger remembers he's fighting Riggs and
runs him over with some clotheslines. Riggs snaps Lex's throat
across the top rope and chokes away a lot before scoring with a
dropkick. Luger quickly breaks out of a chinlock as the announcers
say no one anticipated seeing Hogan vs. Warrior again eight and a
half years later. A few running knees in the corner have Luger in
trouble but he comes back with a suplex. Luger comes back with all
of his usual stuff and finishes Riggs with the Rack.
Rating:
D+. Not the worst squash in the
world here as Riggs looked decent out there. That's rather
surprising as Riggs is usually one of the least interesting wrestlers
on the roster. Luger was his usual self here, meaning he was
charismatic but used the same moves he's done for ten years now.
We
takes yet another look at Bischoff being thrown out of the United
Center. It really wasn't that big of a deal.
Juventud
Guerrera vs. Prince Iaukea
They
trade takedowns to star until Juvy charges into a boot in the corner.
Iaukea gets two off a snapmare and breaks up a sunset flip attempt.
We hit the early chinlock on Juvy followed by a suplex and chops in
the corner. It's Chinlock: The Sequel followed by another suplex
attempt but Guerrera counters into a Fameasser. A top rope corkscrew
dive puts Prince down and sets up the 450. Disco runs out to break
it up but Juvy dives off with the 450 for the pin just in time.
Rating:
C. Short but fine as Disco vs.
Juvy continues to build. I'm not sure how good of a match that's
going to be when we get there but it's nice to see them doing
something in the cruiserweight division that doesn't involve the
title. Prince wasn't bad here but the bald head doesn't make him
more interesting.
Clips
from Nitro of Bischoff being thrown out by cops and the mayor of
Minneapolis.
Konnan
vs. Scott Armstrong
After
the usual intro, Konnan hits the rolling clothesline just after the
bell. There's the seated dropkick and Scott bails to the floor,
holding his shoulder. Back
in and Scott uses his bad arm for a test of strength and rakes
Konnan's eyes to take over. A few basic moves later and we're in the
chinlock. Konnan fights up with some elbows to the ribs but gets
dropped by a clothesline. A bulldog and rollup get two on Scott
before Konnan kicks him in the ribs, hits the X-Factor and hooks the
Sunrise for the win.
Rating:
D. These squashes are getting
weaker as we're approaching the end of the show. Konnan was always
better on the mic than he was in the ring and this match proved it
for the most part. Scott was the least interesting of the Armstrong
Family but he wasn't that bad out there.
Clips
of Bret and Sting's rivalry.
Horsemen
video.
Kendall
Windham vs. Dean Malenko
Kendall
says he knows the Horsemen and can prove Dean doesn't measure up.
Dean hammers away in the corner to start but runs into a big boot. A
lariat puts Dean down again but he grabs a sunset flip. Windham
punches the mat instead of Dean's head, allowing Malenko to hit a
quick kick to the leg, setting up the Cloverleaf for the win in less
than 90 seconds.
Dean
grabs the mic and says that's why he's a Horseman. The rest of the
team comes out and Arn has a mic. He says it's obvious why the
Horsemen are here and calls Bischoff a vicious coward. Bischoff has
been making fun of Arn's physical shortcomings but he's not even half
the man Anderson is. If Bischoff ever makes fun of his family again,
Arn will do things to Bischoff that his family should never be
allowed to see. Flair says that this is the Horsemen's party and
names each individual member. He'll be running this company one day
and Bischoff will be working for him.
Sting
vs. Giant
Giant
misses a charge and Sting hammers away but misses the Stinger Splash.
The big man steps on his chest and pounds on him in the corner, only
to miss a big elbow. Three straight Stinger Splashes set up a slam
but Scott Steiner runs in with a chair to the leg for the DQ before
the Deathlock.
The
NWO lays out Sting until Rick Steiner and the Wolfpack makes the save
to end the show.
Overall
Rating: C+. It's still good and
a different kind of show from Nitro. This is one of the most
frustrating things about WCW. It's clear that they can put on
entertaining shows but we get the garbage that they put on so often
anymore that it's barely worth watching half the time. Good
show tonight with some entertaining squashes and small build to the
PPV on Sunday.
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Well the ending to the ppv main event, with Nash killing tatanka after getting the hot tag, and then pulling tatanka up at 2 and demanding sid tag in, only for did to bail, is a good way to book Nash and a cool way to set up the July ppv.
ReplyDeleteVince's exasperation during Mo's eight hour reading of the coronation proclamation ceased to be a work sometime around hour 3.
ReplyDeleteHe's an ass on the show.
ReplyDeleteHe's horrendous. A bloviating self-important asshole, which is saying something on a panel of ex-wrestlers.
ReplyDeleteWatching Judgment Day and then KotR 01.There was was a gap of me watching in Jr high from WM 17 til the Invasion started so it's interesting watching these for the first time.
ReplyDeleteThe July ppv has the HBK and Jarrett match. Go with that.
ReplyDeleteWatching the Wrestling Classic, and it's a shame that we don't get a longer match between Steamboat and Davey Boy. Also, Paul Orndorff is the fucking man at this point.
ReplyDeleteImagine a Orfndoff these days with that gimmick.
ReplyDeleteI swear Damien Sandow is Bruiser Brody reincarnated. He looks just like the guy.
ReplyDelete3 more after that. June 7, 14, 21. The last 1 is the Razor/Kid rematch where Kid steals the bag of cash.
ReplyDeleteYeah it's making this show a lot better than I remember it. I just don't understand the subterfuge in convincing me wrestling had hot angles in 2003.
ReplyDeleteWrestling Classic: Tito Santana vs. Paul Orndorff. I always enjoy watching two babyfaces go at it because it always ends up in a slugfest as they both lose their cool.
ReplyDeleteHe just needs a killer gimmick.
ReplyDeleteEhh? ehh?
John Cena, Eddie Edwards and Prince Albert would like a word with you.
ReplyDeleteParts Unknown. I think that's in Arizona.
ReplyDeletePoor Zach Ryder, man did they just shit on him storyline wise.
ReplyDeleteTo soon man.
ReplyDeleteYou know it!
ReplyDeleteSandow would get murdered out there.
ReplyDeleteWrestling Classic: this broad that points at the board with the pointer. Later on, she is with Vince when they give away the Rolls Royce. He asks for her take on the giveaway. No wonder all they had her do was point.
ReplyDeleteThis giveaway segment is fucking horrible.
ReplyDeleteHaving suffered through a recent bout of it... yeah, it fucking sucks.
ReplyDeleteSomeone from Batavia, IL won the Rolls Royce. The greatest thing to happen to that town. I wonder if that guy still has the car.
ReplyDeleteSorry, dude.
ReplyDelete"Hogan made it cool to like sports entertainment."
ReplyDeleteOh for fuck's sake, just say wrestling you douche.
Tommy Rodgers vs candido, I'm intigured
ReplyDeleteI love WWE's whitewashing of Austin 3:16, in that it was an instant hit and made Austin a household name and he went on to stardom and never looked back and he was the top guy bah gawd. Instead of saying the phrase, then not doing anything of note for until NOVEMBER.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait for years down the road, when they talk about how the YES Movement was an instant hit at Wrestlemania 28.
Yeah, but I still don't get what they're doing with Raw and Smackdown. They haven't added any episodes more recent than the Rumble, and they haven't added some of the Raws they've been showing on the live feed (such as the 2001 Raw where Vince bought WCW). The rest is definitely nice, and I have Hulu so I don't really care about the more recent Raws, but I'm wondering when they're planning to add more Raws and Smackdowns, or at least add the ones they're showing on the Live Feed to on demand.
ReplyDeleteCraig seager and his fucked up sports coats beg to differ
ReplyDeleteI stand by my original statement.
ReplyDeleteI'm on my 3rd ECW ppv since I got the network and I'm already fed the fuck up with the mutants
ReplyDeleteYeah. Wrestling Yokozuna on the Summerslam 96 pre-show has been forgotten.
ReplyDeleteCandido was pretty amazing in the mid 90's, just took a suplex from inside the ring to the arena floor
ReplyDeleteIs this a faction or just a nickname for everyone on the roster
ReplyDelete"Mutants" was the term for the ECW fanbase. They're pretty fucking ugly.
ReplyDeleteHey ken Anderson came out of there too
ReplyDeleteThe good one (Bengals qb), not the shit one
ReplyDeleteBut he wrestled HHH on the October card, that's huge isn't it?
ReplyDeleteI bet they just start throwing up full years of either show
ReplyDeleteIs that supposed to be a play on humanoids?
ReplyDeleteWhoooooooooooooooo
ReplyDeleteGotta admit, I don't care for joey styles calling a 3 hour ppv with no color guy
ReplyDeleteIts just what scott called the more annoying ECW fans. Its embarrassing seeing them do some of the shit they did
ReplyDeleteWrestling Classic: JYD beating Randy Savage by countout on the last match of the PPV is pretty lame. Chalk this show up as a thumbs down.
ReplyDeleteOh shit the ecw ref turned it to a tag team match. That !might be one of the first times I personally saw this done
ReplyDeleteE C DUB, E C DUB, E C DUB...alright we fucking get it guys Jesus Christ
ReplyDeleteOh sweet, the Iron Man Match is coming up soon. By the way, have they ever released this match in full without the breaks for commercials?
ReplyDeleteI hated the finish to that candido vs rogers into a tag team match
ReplyDeleteI love how Andre is a heel at Wrestlemania 3 for having the nerve to do something so dastardly as wanting a title shot.
ReplyDeleteNo Mercy 1999 UK Version says there's a Hardy vs E/C ladder Match for 100K but it is not on the show at all? Did it exist or chopped from here?
ReplyDeleteWhat was candidos original ecw theme song?
ReplyDeleteIt's just a degrading term that was assigned to them. Foley MIGHT have been the first one to call the ECW fans that. Those fans were pretty bloodthirsty and had a group asshole mentality. They also didn't seem like the best groomed fans.
ReplyDeleteJustin credible tried hard man but he was barely fit to be a mid card ecw act
ReplyDeleteI don't care what anyone thinks, I fucking love Mikey whipwreck
ReplyDeleteback in black
ReplyDeleteI don't even want to know what it smelt like being in the middle of a crowd of them. What is it with hardcore nerd neck beards and proper hygiene? A few months ago a comic shop opened up around me and I went in to pick up a few comics (not a huge comic fan but I've read the big ones like Watchmen and Dark Kight Rises). There were six people in there, I was in close proximity with most of them, five of them had this musky sweat smell. What the hell? Shower, soap and deodorant aren't foreign concepts.
ReplyDeleteHe turned on Hogan and ripped the cross off his chest. He turn on AMERICA and JESUS.
ReplyDeleteHim and Cactus Jack were great together
ReplyDeleteHope so.
ReplyDeleteYou could say that about Mick and a lot of people.
ReplyDeleteI liked Mikey Whipwreck enough, it was a good gimmick in ECW. The young underdog kid, knew two offensive moves and was scared to be against these big guys but kept at it. The tag match with Foley is fantastic with Cactus having to drag Mikey back to the match.
ReplyDeleteYeah, making Credible the ECW Champ was not a smart move.
ReplyDeleteSo many of Hogan's friends turned on him, you gotta assume Hogan was a jerk.
ReplyDeleteThere was no internet full of atheists back then.
ReplyDeleteWell he aligned with Heenen and ripped the cross off Hogan, that's heel moves.
ReplyDeleteWasn't that directly the result of Hogan constantly denying him or something?
ReplyDeleteThey waited too long to pull the trigger on RVD and the window closed.
ReplyDeleteHogan trying to piledrive Andre on the exposed concrete. What a hero.
ReplyDeleteJesse correctly calling him on his hypocrisy is great though.
I may be misunderstanding your question, but No Mercy 99 did, in fact, have the ladder match you asked about. I have to be honest, though. I haven't a clue what the UK version of the show is. Didn't know there was one until now.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7zjQnOSugs
ReplyDeleteThe thing about it jobber...was that when Roberts was cutting promos on Savage, and unleashed the cobra at the wedding, and having the cobra bite him, then after the cobra was banned he HIT MISS ELIZABETH. I was 12 at the time, I knew wrestling was fake, but I still honestly believed that someone was going to die in that feud. And I thought it was going to be Elizabeth when Jake had the chair behind the curtain. I kept yelling for Randy to get in front.
ReplyDeleteHe ripped the man's cross off for god sakes!!! Besides why didn't Jesse ever "take that dude on?"
ReplyDeleteI miss Thug Life rapper Cena, watching him like that feels really fresh and new as opposed to our current Cena.
ReplyDeleteEven as top face Hogan would still do heelish things from time to time.
ReplyDeleteWasn't RVD injured and shooting a movie for a while though?
ReplyDeleteYeah. I don't remember where I read it but I remember finding it funny when it was mentioned that Hogan basically had to change nothing concerning his moveset or pacing when he went from face to heel in 96.
ReplyDeleteBeen watching some old ECW and I've yet to see 1 woman in the stands
ReplyDeleteHogan never denied him a shot at the title, Andre never asked until on that Piper Pit with Heenen. Andre had even been asked if he wanted to go for the title and he said "naw man, I'm good at just being a big motherfucker".
ReplyDeleteOh, I have no context for the 80s stuff.
ReplyDeleteThat poor poor women.
ReplyDeleteI'm a Cena Heel Turn Guy, there is nothing I want to see more than heel Cena. The heat would be nuclear.
ReplyDeleteI don't have the network but just happened to be watching that era of PPV's recently. I was watching them in the wrong order so man did the tag team scene seem weird. Sunny was with the Bodydonnas, then the Gunns, and even the Godwinns I think. Gunns were faces and heels and, at one point, Billy was wearing all black cuz I guess he turned on his brother.
ReplyDeleteSuppose it's my own fault for not following them in order.
Yup. ECW shows were one big sausage party.
ReplyDeleteOf course there was the woman Bubba Ray Dudley accused of sucking black cock.
ReplyDeleteLet me backtrack and say one big CLASSY sausage party.
ReplyDeleteThe UK No Mercy took place a week before Over the Edge 99. The main event was Steve Austin vs. The Undertaker for the WWF Championship. There is also a match for the European title between X-Pac and Shane McMahon.
ReplyDeleteNeither did I until today. It was after Backlash. I figured it was just mislabeled regarding the ladder match.
ReplyDeleteHe sucked one he became fat though
ReplyDeleteBrock and Angle in a marathon match? I can think of worse ways to waste an hour.
ReplyDeleteThis Smackdown has felt pretty much like a min-ppv.
There were TWO "No Mercy" pay-per-views in 1999. One between Backlash and No Mercy that was UK exclusive (and featured something like Austin v. HHH v. Undertaker for the title) and one in October of 1999 with the Austin/HHH title match and the Hardy/Edge & Christian ladder match.
ReplyDeleteAnd then WWF did the same thing with RVD!
ReplyDeleteYes, it's on the greatest superstars of the 21st century Blu-Ray without commercials (don't know if it appears that way on the DVD version... can't imagine it wouldn't).
ReplyDeleteI wonder what happened to Hat Guy
ReplyDeleteAustin, Brian Pillman and Owen Hart cutting promos on Bret Hart is why the September ppv was called MIND GAMES.
ReplyDeleteWhy?
ReplyDeleteFor those without the network. Steamboat vs Muta in Japan 1990: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX4AR9AflU4
ReplyDeleteIt's crazy Angle has kept his head shaven since losing that hair match vs edge in 02
ReplyDeleteSome people are just meant to be bald.
ReplyDeleteDamnit, MINNESTOA.
ReplyDeleteVince was trying to find his next Hogan.
ReplyDeleteWhy weren't they doing the Sting/Vader dynamic with Bret and Bam Bam Bigelo? Dude had FLAMES tattooed on his SKULL and crazy Luna as his manager. That feud would have been awesome.
ReplyDeleteBeluah, sunny, and Francine were fucking smoking hot in 1997
ReplyDeleteWhy we never got an Angle/Benoit 60 minute iron man match is beyond me.
ReplyDeleteGive me Daffney over all 3 any day of the week.
ReplyDelete"Tommy dreamer would fight for free in an abandoned warehouse for the right to raise the ecw flag!" -Joey styles
ReplyDeleteWow does that make tommy sound retarded
Marry fuck kill
ReplyDelete1997 ecw
Beluah. Francine. Tammy.
I'm marrying tammy cuz I love blondes and I know I can keep her thin
Fucking Francine because she's pretty
Killing Beluah because shes a cheater
I'm watching n2r 97 and there's two girls I've spotted in the entire arean
ReplyDelete96-97 sunny might be top 3 diva ever.
ReplyDeleteEye gouges and back rakes baby
ReplyDeleteOne thing I'll never understand is why Heyman wouldn't put the heavyweight title on RVD ND just run with that as long as possible
ReplyDeleteIt should have been Shawn's to win in a walk... but they decided to make it all about Mabel and turn him into a top contender. They were trying to build up a new challenger for Diesel and it wsan't a great result.
ReplyDeleteSo, still watching after NWO 2000 (after a break to watch the new Veronica Mars movie this afternoon). Did they really put Too Cool and Rikishi over the Radicalz just weeks after they debuted?
ReplyDeleteI'd put her at #1
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell happened with Brakkus?
ReplyDeleteMickie James is my #1. My type to the T.
ReplyDeleteThis Malaysian plane thing might be the most bizarre news story I've heard in my life. How in this day in age do you lose a plane?
ReplyDeleteBeen watching wrestling from 9am to 4pm and still going strong. Only stopping to head over to a friends for the ufc show
ReplyDeleteSunny started out with the BodyDonnas, who won the belts and started a feud with the Godwinns, and dim-witted Phineas got a crush on Sunny. The Godwinns won the belts on a MSG house show, and Sunny followed the belts by somehow agreeing to be PIG's girlfriend. The next week, the Godwinns dropped the belts to the Gunns in a face v. face match, with Sunny turning on the Godwinns and the Gunns turning heel with Sunny as their manager -- and Sunny was now Billy's girlfriend. This was all in a two-week span. Sunny stayed with the Gunns, but they the Gunns dropped the belts in a heel v. heel match to Owen/Bulldog, and Sunny dumped the Gunns and dumped Billy. When the Gunns couldn't win the belts back in a nother heel v. heel match against Owen/Bulldog, Billy turned on Bart -- turning him face. This feud lasted until Billy "broke his neck" on a live Raw, but he was back three months later.
ReplyDeleteThe moral of the story: Sunny is a whore for tag team gold, and 1996 was not a good year for the WWF.
HHH was hurt in this match and injured in the first Chamber match.... he's in a match with FIVE OTHER GUYS and can't figure out how to get the fuck out of there when he's injured to save the match from being the drizzling shits. And in a match when he's injured going in, he can't do a stop where he's pinned right away because he can't fucking work anyway.
ReplyDelete2nd best plucky underdog face ever
ReplyDelete2013 was pretty fucking great though. Punk/Brock and Bryan/Cena were as close to two straight ***** matches as I've ever seen on ppv.
ReplyDeleteAnd you're 100% right about being conditioned not to buy it -- this was the first Summerslam I bought live since 2004.
Rvd was the shit in ecw. Talk about a guy who could carry a whole ppv
ReplyDeleteIt might have been the best match on the show.
ReplyDeleteI believe this is the first time "ECW!" chants made it onto pay-per-view.
ReplyDeleteTommy Hall is the BoD's MVP. You've been dependably posting show recaps with no drama for years! I always love reading these even if I don't comment.
ReplyDeleteAustin/Michaels at WM14 is so good it's disappointing considering how great it could have been had both guys been healthy.
ReplyDeleteMuch appreciated.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, what time is the Saturday Night PPV starting? I'll think I'll grace you all with my presence since my back is wrecked tonight so I'm not doing anything.
ReplyDelete45 minutes from now.
ReplyDeleteAustin/Michaels is on King of the RIng 97 and both guys are healthy and it's amazing. Shit finish, though.
ReplyDeleteAh OK, so 8 Eastern. Thanks Bobby. You new here? If so welcome.
ReplyDeleteThis match is fantastic, I don't think I've seen it since it first aired.
ReplyDeleteNo, I've been here for years, just haven't been as active as I have recently.
ReplyDeleteDON'T CALL IT A COMEBACK
ReplyDeleteI'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS
ROCKIN MY PEERS AND PUTTIN SUCKAS IN TEARS
Damn rvd gets busted open super hard way by a chair... Ouch. Also I've spotted a 3rd girl in the crowd.
ReplyDeleteThis is the kind of thing my gf would love to have me go to alone. Total sausage fest, almost no girls except a few dragged by the bf or there as part of the show. I'm going to a friends to watch the ufc show and apparently have to bring my girlfriend because another guy I know who loves hookers and titty bars is going to be there so now she immediately has to go with me to make sure no extra fun is had... Lame!
This is what happens when you change your avatar
ReplyDeleteBest tag team ever?
ReplyDeleteIt's crazy to think that 2002-2010 Shawn completely shits all over the work he did prior to the back injury. Geez.
ReplyDeleteKicking rvd in the balls to counter a split legged moonsault is a pretty cool spot
ReplyDeleteYeah, I was the Austin fanboy with the Austin avatar.
ReplyDeleteMan, that Mountie vignette was awesome.
ReplyDeleteBeluah doing a ball shot that hits just above the side of Fonzie's knee is very considerate
ReplyDeleteSo the Shield are on the same page and faces now? I'm ok with that. Too bad they won't run them vs Wyatt's at Mania.
ReplyDeleteHopefully they keep The Shield together for a while longer then run a few month program with Wyatt's in the summer with the blowoff match at SummerSlam in the Cell.
ReplyDeleteAh, but you forget, they can't do a Cell match at Summerslam because they have "Cell PPV" two months later.
ReplyDeleteAh OK, yeah I think the avatar threw me off a bit as well as not seeing you around recently. Should I take back my "welcome"?
ReplyDeleteUggg, I wish they would just let these matches happen organically as a fued needs it. Not just having one at a specific PPV each year.
ReplyDeleteAh sweet No Way Out 2001 won the poll, not only a great PPV but also a show I can watch on my Xbox. When the hell are they going to fix the app on the Xbox 360 anyway?
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I'm fine with the Rumble and Money in the Bank because they're once a year, special matches that aren't matches you build to with a feud. I'm even okay with Elimination Chamber because, again, with 6 guys, you're not usually going to get to that match with a natural feud anyway. But I don't like Hell in a Cell and TLC as PPVs. The shows themselves are usually fine, but they take away from storylines by forcing them into those matches, and by forcing them to not use those matches the rest of the year unless you're HHH.
ReplyDeleteWatching Triple H-Cactus i the Cell, how the hell does anyone think it's a good idea to have Cactus get back body dropped through the cell into the ring? The spot looked fucking brutal.
ReplyDeleteThe Network is great for days like today. A Saturday where you are doing things around the house/yard. Just have The Network on in the background, take a break now and then to watch a match.
ReplyDeleteI'm still wondering if I want to sit through the rest of GAB '88 and continue to watch the WCW PPV's in order or just hop on and watch all the WWF ones instead. OR BOTH in order!
ReplyDeleteWow rvd can take a pile driver dump
ReplyDeleteWell the ring was rigged in that specific spot to give way and cushion the fall more. The choke slam at KOR 98 through the cell is MUCH more brutal. Although that spot wasn't planned and was more an accident.
ReplyDeleteChris Benoit super kicked Fonzie????
ReplyDeleteYou going to watch No Way Out 2001 with the rest of us tonight?
ReplyDeleteLol other wrestlers can just come in and count the pin fall?
ReplyDeleteCarlos Colon began his career in 1967? But...but...Gorilla said he was a youngster!
ReplyDeleteYoungster = 35-40 years old.
ReplyDeleteI still can't go in exact order since there are a good bulk of PPVs missing but currently I'm going through the old In Your House PPVs. It's not all classic stuff but the PPVs are a good amount of fun to watch.
ReplyDeleteSabu takes out belluah and they all start stomping her??!!??!!that's extreme dude
ReplyDeleteBoth in order
ReplyDeleteI still am not a fan of ADR, the guy just seems so boring to me.
ReplyDeleteThat's gonna be tough. So I'd finish up GAB then jump to Summerslam '88.
ReplyDeleteSeemed like they were building to Del Rio-Ziggler at Mania...I guess not.
ReplyDeleteOH GOD IS THIS THAT SANDMAN VS SABU MATCH???????
ReplyDeleteOh man this is gonna suck
ReplyDeleteZiggler won a match huh? I thought I felt my feet getting cold.
ReplyDeleteOkay. I knew of the UK only shows like One Night Only, but I didn't know about the No Mercy double shot.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised wwe hasn't rereleased the ecw shirts yet
ReplyDeleteThere's PPV's missing?
ReplyDeleteIYH shows were extremely hit or miss. They got better as the years went on. Some of them were just awful though.
You can find the stuff that's been on the Live Stream but hasn't been added to On Demand yet with the search function.
ReplyDeleteas you pointed out, the Sunny story really made sense. she wasn't in it for a certain team, she wanted to be with the team that was on top.
ReplyDeleteIt was more important to have Bam Bam feud with a prankish clown.
ReplyDeleteWWF had just no idea how to make money off Bam Bam.
Killing Beulah because she was a cheater? Didn't Tammy sleep around on Skip with everyone?
ReplyDeleteHe started to grow it back a couple years ago but quickly aborted
ReplyDeleteYeah but I already married her
ReplyDeleteFantastic recap. Love reading these. WCW had such a huge cast of characters and man, it wasted so many of them near the end
ReplyDeleteMuch appreciated.
ReplyDeleteMabel winning and getting pushed COULD have worked, except...
ReplyDelete1. His 1st Round win over Undertaker was a tainted victory meant to further Taker/Kama's angle.
2. Semi-Final Bye
3. Beat a guy who was in his 4th match, and all three prior were very competitive.
He basically won one match by himself, against a guy who's tank was running on empty.
Man what a roster Dubbya had. Damn near a fantasy roster.....
ReplyDeleteHogan, Warrior, Piper, DDP, Goldberg, Raven, Sting, Hitman, Flair, Jericho, Savage, Hall, Nash, Booker T, Luger, Steiners, Syxx, The Horsemen, Ray Mysterio, The Giant...
Just think about this roster for a moment. I realize some guys were way past their prime and some guys hadn't reached it just yet, but DAMN that is one thick line-up. How do you possibly screw up anything?
I got to see Halloween Havoc through a free stream on the Internet at college. I enjoyed the show, and I can't wait to see what you think of it. Sure, it had one horrible match, but I figured the others made up for it.
ReplyDeleteSorry, 15 year spoiler alert.