RIP Ultimate Warrior.
The network live stream schedule for today:
9:00 AM ET - RAW Flashback - 10/17/93 - Randy Savage-Crush confrontation.
10:00 AM ET - RAW Flashback - 10/24/93 - Marty Jannetty vs. The 1-2-3 Kid.
11:00 AM ET - Legends of Wrestling - 3/1/12 - Celebrities in professional wrestling.
12:00 PM ET - Extreme Rules 2010 - 4/24/10 - John Cena vs. Batista in a Last Man Standing match for the WWE Championship; Edge vs. Chris Jericho in Steel Cage Match.
3:00 PM ET - Beyond the Ring - 10/24/11 - The Bret Hart-Shawn Michaels rivalry doc.
5:00 PM ET - WCCW - 1/23/83 - Bugsy McGraw/Al Madril vs. The Great Kabuki/King Kong Bundy; Jose Lathario vs. Michael Hayes.
6:00 PM ET - WCCW - 1/26/83 - Kevin Von Erich vs. Terry Gordy for the American Heavyweight title; Brian Adias vs. The Great Yatsu.
7:00 PM ET - WCCW - 2/26/83 - The Von Erichs vs. The Freebirds in a Lumberjack Match.
8:00 PM ET - Best of RAW - 1/10/93 - The premiere episode of RAW.
9:00 PM ET - Wrestlemania XXX - 4/6/14 - Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H; The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar.
If you want to check out some Ultimate Warrior on PPV, check out SummerSlam '88 for his historic IC title win over The Honky Tonk Man; defending said IC title against Rick Rude at Wrestlemania V, and the subsequent rematch at SummerSlam '89; of course, his greatest accomplishment with his match against Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania VI, and his greatest match ever with Randy Savage at Wrestlemania VII.
The network live stream schedule for today:
9:00 AM ET - RAW Flashback - 10/17/93 - Randy Savage-Crush confrontation.
10:00 AM ET - RAW Flashback - 10/24/93 - Marty Jannetty vs. The 1-2-3 Kid.
11:00 AM ET - Legends of Wrestling - 3/1/12 - Celebrities in professional wrestling.
12:00 PM ET - Extreme Rules 2010 - 4/24/10 - John Cena vs. Batista in a Last Man Standing match for the WWE Championship; Edge vs. Chris Jericho in Steel Cage Match.
3:00 PM ET - Beyond the Ring - 10/24/11 - The Bret Hart-Shawn Michaels rivalry doc.
5:00 PM ET - WCCW - 1/23/83 - Bugsy McGraw/Al Madril vs. The Great Kabuki/King Kong Bundy; Jose Lathario vs. Michael Hayes.
6:00 PM ET - WCCW - 1/26/83 - Kevin Von Erich vs. Terry Gordy for the American Heavyweight title; Brian Adias vs. The Great Yatsu.
7:00 PM ET - WCCW - 2/26/83 - The Von Erichs vs. The Freebirds in a Lumberjack Match.
8:00 PM ET - Best of RAW - 1/10/93 - The premiere episode of RAW.
9:00 PM ET - Wrestlemania XXX - 4/6/14 - Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H; The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar.
If you want to check out some Ultimate Warrior on PPV, check out SummerSlam '88 for his historic IC title win over The Honky Tonk Man; defending said IC title against Rick Rude at Wrestlemania V, and the subsequent rematch at SummerSlam '89; of course, his greatest accomplishment with his match against Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania VI, and his greatest match ever with Randy Savage at Wrestlemania VII.
I became a fan in 1990 and the Ultimate Warrior was the reason. Throughout my childhood this was always my favorite Wrestlemania match. It still holds a special place in my heart to this day.
ReplyDeleteIs there a platter with Roast Beef sandwiches and horsey sauce available?
ReplyDelete(For the record, if there was any legit concern there, as much as this sucks there are far bigger things for me to tackle in my life, bu thank you)
This is a great match. Two of my favorite superstars from my childhood battling it out. At the time I was thrilled the Warrior won. As time went I was disappointed that Savage retired shortly after. I'm glad the retirement didn't stick. This is definitely one of if not the best Warrior match ever. Their encounter at Summerslam 92 wasn't bad, but this one was much better.
ReplyDeleteWhen originally watching it I did find it weird they made such a big deal about him wearing a baseball cap. The cartoon era was ending and characters were getting more "real" so why not have a little humanization in him.
ReplyDelete"It has also been reported that Reigns has been passing all of the "tests" he has been given, on camera and backstage."
ReplyDeleteThe "business" side of wrestling is so fucking dumb sometimes.
I figured it wasn't suicide, thankfully. And correct me if I'm wrong but Warrior wasn't a devout Christian right? He was just hardcore right wing.
ReplyDeleteThis was just memorably bad, and also because Jericho got into hot water for embarrassing Taker.
ReplyDeleteI haven't trashed him today. I felt a twinge of sadness and felt for his family when I heard the news. I'm not sure how I became anti-warrior.
ReplyDeleteIf we are reflecting, we should be reflecting on him as a person. With the good, there is bad. This isn't a formalized service so it's ok to discuss things like him being a hatefull homophobe along with the good.
Sting will be revealed as the leader of the Wyatt Family. The subtle hints have always been there: Follow the BUZZards.
ReplyDelete"Last night, the Warrior was walking to the car with his car from a hotel
ReplyDeletein Arizona when he collasped. He was then taken to a nearby hospital
where he was pronounced dead."
He kicked his leg out from under his leg?
Warrior: Devastating loss...wouldn't be surprised to hear it is cardiac arrest from an enlarged heart
ReplyDeleteReigns: Not much surprise here
Sting: Again not much surprise, but too little too late
TNA: Who cares
I hope Reigns is the second-to-next top star, since I think Cesaro is more singles-push ready and the Shield should remain a trio at least through the Summer.
ReplyDeleteSting involved with the Wyatt's would be so damn interesting, especially if he's used to mess around with Cena.
ReplyDeleteThe question remains: Did Reigns pass the JBL haze test in the showers?
ReplyDeleteYeah I think he was just extreme right wing. I don't ever remember him claiming he was religious
ReplyDeleteIf only Sting were any good as a heel.
ReplyDeleteLoved the Survivor Series 1989 match. Especially Heenan yelling at Arn to get back in there...not realizing he had been eliminated.
ReplyDeleteYeah. I like Reigns and all but Cesaro would be so much more reliable in terms of a great worker.
ReplyDeleteBut I guess it's good that WWE now has multiple potential new top guys instead of what we've had to go through the past few years.
Fair enough, but I honestly think that says more about how much Caliber irritated people. I mean, I was pretty indifferent to him on the first few go-rounds, but the last fiasco was really the turning point. He pretty much had that pillorying coming for years.
ReplyDeleteBut if the unthinkable happened and he passed on, I would hope we could show some kindness towards those he left behind, if nothing else.
Test 1: do you have a good handshake...check
ReplyDeleteTest 2: do you workout with HHH...check
Test 3: do you NOT shit in gym bags...check 3
PUSH THIS MAN
He could get over as a heel easily in the WWE environment.
ReplyDeleteI'm just spreading the levity you brought to the table.....and placed next to my huge jug of honey mustard.
ReplyDeleteBecause he has no legacy with the company and can start fresh.
ReplyDeletebravissimo!
ReplyDeleteHe has never convincingly played a heel. That would be his biggest impediment.
ReplyDeleteI was such a huge Warrior mark that when I started getting smarky and being more involved online, it made me sad that so many people despised him. lol
ReplyDeleteReigns would snap JBL in half
ReplyDeleteDon't fuck with a Samoan
ReplyDeleteI would hope since JBL is 47 and broken down.
ReplyDeleteIt's a very bizarre industry with some rather odd customs.
ReplyDeleteSummerslam '92 vs Savage deserves some love, as well.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't popular and I REALLY feel for his family but the fact that warrior used steroids, and was a a hatefull homophobe makes it tough to to really feel badly for him.
ReplyDeleteIn a weird way, I think this DVD did more good for the Warrior than being ignored. It revealed how many fans loved him and hated the DVD for being spiteful and petty.
ReplyDeleteSo I'm a longtime Blog of Doom reader and this was my first post. To have jobber123 respond to me with an excellent case of example trolling and condescension is an honor. You made my day.
ReplyDeleteI was such a huge Warrior mark that when I started getting smarky and being more involved online, it made me sad that so many people despised him. lol He had the Goldberg streak AND was my commissioner whenever I played with my wrestling toys.
ReplyDeleteHe has a differing point of view so I'm glad he's dead. I'll never get that. Why does it need the and/but 12 hours after the guy died?
ReplyDeleteI feel bad because the guy was a favorite of mine growing up, and also because his two young daughters won't grow up with a father. I feel bad for him in the sense that he seemed to finally be finding some peace in his life.
ReplyDeleteThat would be cool. I'd rather see sting vs Wyatts since sting is a better face
ReplyDeleteWhy would you not feel bad for someone using steroids?
ReplyDeleteI figured religion was where the homophobia came from?
ReplyDeleteHe doesn't even have to talk, just wear the face paint and hit Cena with his bat.
ReplyDeleteHell, don't even wear the crow gear, dress like the Wyatt's.
Also this exchange after the match. Warrior runs from the ring and clotheslines Bobby in the aisle.
ReplyDelete"Now, why did the Warrior do that, Monsoon?"
"He was in the guys way".
I hear you. And I'm certainly not saying that he hadn't earned a healthy amount of criticism with his antics. I just thought the level of piling-on that happened was way over the top and made a sizable portion of the blog look like junior high girls. I've always appreciated the thoughtfulness of a lot of the people here (and still do), but that would've been an embarrassing comments section at 411, never mind for a group that usually carries itself as if we're above the fray.
ReplyDeleteOr how about because he's dead and that's it. He's gone for ever to rot in a box. Like I get it, he didn't like gays, but guess what, he's dead now. Gays win.
ReplyDeleteYou can have a different POV but once you become a hatefull outspoken homophobe it's tough to muster sympathy for someone
ReplyDeleteOr how about I feel how I want to feel? I said nothing about his stance on gays.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, it wasn't that far long ago that being using homophobic slurs were kinda accepted in society. Any one remember that cringe worthy episode where Homer thought Bart was gay? At the end of that infamous RAW where Austin pushed Tyson, the last word said on that episode is Mike Tyson calling Steve Austin a faggot.
ReplyDeleteWell, if he was walking to the car WITH his car, no wonder he died. That's a shitload of weight to carry any distance, an ultimate warrior or not.
ReplyDeleteHe's clarified his view on homosexuality as a bad thing because if everyone was gay the world would die out due to lack of population.
ReplyDeleteHis peak was about two years before I started watching, so I don't have a real connection to him. I just find it ridiculous that people will go to such lengths to absolve Vince McMahon of asshole behavior.
ReplyDeleteBecause the long term health effects are well know...Such as cardiovascular failure. He knew the risks. It was his choice. Im.nit glad he's dead but he made a personal decision as an adult.
ReplyDeleteI kinda understand your point, but by using that criteria, you'd probably hate 80% of the wrestlers in the 80's & 90's...
ReplyDeleteHe most likely abused them in the early 90s. Where the precautions of steroids really that common then? This is a legit question.
ReplyDeleteI know some people call their car their wife, but this is ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't all THAT long ago, in the grand scheme of things, that it was socially acceptable to lynch black people for being black.
ReplyDeleteWhat's your point?
Nearly every wrestler from the 80's and 90's tried or regularly used steroids. So what? By that logic, you won't feel bad when nearly all the wrestlers from the 80's die.
ReplyDeleteRegarding his views...that was his belief. Just like you have yours and I have mine. He didn't like homosexuals and he had that right. You don't like people who don't like homosexauls. Hypocrisy? Maybe. But everyone has a right to have their own views on life.
And it was terrible when it was somewhat accepted.
ReplyDeleteYes?
ReplyDeleteWho cares what his views were? He's dead and gone. Like does getting on a soapbox right after someone dies get gay people extra rights?
ReplyDeleteWeren't we supposed to have freedom of speech in America? But if you exercise it to express an unpopular point of view you can't die without tons of people soapbox circle jerking.
I totally get that, and if I were a few years older I'd probably feel the same way.
ReplyDeleteAlso, he just buried the hatchet on what was probably one of the biggest conflicts of his life, was able to meet with many of his former peers face to face and, according to Twitter posts, make amends. He was given the highest honor a retired pro-wrestler could have been given over the course of three days, and then he's dead. Didn't even get a chance to enjoy it all.
ReplyDeleteAnd no matter what the guy was like years ago, for all we know many of his views may have changed over time.
I thought they would look favorably to people shitting in gym bags.
ReplyDeleteThe two books I want to read, and would pretty much would pay any dollar amount for, would be Taker and Vince. Doubt either guy would ever write one.
ReplyDeleteTaker, maybe. Vince, probably not.
Yes. Steroids have become safer if anything.
ReplyDeleteThat people can be ignorant. Who knows what Warrior's stance on homosexuality was shortly before his death. We're only relying on stuff that he said 10 years ago.
ReplyDeleteThis probably goes back to the common, and incorrect, thinking that addiction is a disease and not a choice.
ReplyDeleteOh yes! I forgot about this until you mentioned it. Classic Monsoon-Ventura exchange.
ReplyDeleteI love Cesaro. I beleive he will be an excellent main event player.
ReplyDeleteI don't know that he's a flagship guy
why do you think you "should" feel bad for him?
ReplyDeleteSick burn dude. Way to use what I said back on me. Glad you could make someone's death all about you!
ReplyDeleteYeah they do, the whole DVD's arent about the flaws but they do mention things like temper tantrums, drug use, and not being in shape to perform.
ReplyDeleteThe fuck are you talking about?
ReplyDeletePeople shouldn't be so surprised that there was so much speculation about Warrior committing suicide when news of his death first broke. This blog has never had much patience for letting things play out and seeing where they go.
ReplyDeleteHe was kidding
ReplyDeleteI don't know that Reigns is either. Really you don't know that anyone is until you try. Reigns's best matches have pretty much all been six-man tags, though, and the two of them get pretty similar crowd reactions. And Cesaro's offense is a little more spectacular.
ReplyDeleteIt's not a soapbox. I'm not glad he's dead. I was just saying he's a VERY unsympathetic and unlikeable guy.
ReplyDeleteI agree and I hope it doesn't come across like I'm trying to justify his comments but I have used the word faggot to call someone for being lame. Warrior's opinion on homosexuality was definitely way more then that but I wonder if he ever changed his stance on it.
ReplyDeleteMore for what Savage did than the Warrior.
ReplyDeleteAnd dude, you surely can't mean because someone used illegal drugs there death deserves no sympathy right?
ReplyDeleteBecause he died and all and I used to enjoy watching him
ReplyDeleteNope. Check out his website (if it's still up and hasn't been touched) and google search his name.
ReplyDeleteHe MAY have toned it down, but he never changed and honestly, there's no atoning for being that much of a shithead bigot who was proud of training his children to believe the same garbage he did.
doesn't make it right.
ReplyDeleteand this was the kind stuff that I loathed during the attitude era for that particular reason (I also thought it was stupid that at first it Goldust seemed to be portrayed as the heel just because he was gay).
I honestly wish they saw the same thing in Reigns that I see in all THREE members of The Shield. Seriously, I think all three of them have great potential to be huge stars.
ReplyDeleteWell let's be fair, Warrior needed a great opponent to get a good performance out of him.
ReplyDeleteSome people can separate the character/persona from the actual man. Others can't, and that's perfectly understandable. I can mourn the loss of a childhood hero while recognizing his flaws and acknowledging his shortcomings. That doesn't mean condoning bad behavior or glossing over unpleasantness, just simply choosing to focus on the positives.
ReplyDeleteOh, I no one knows about Reigns. He needs time to develop.
ReplyDeleteCesaro is already a complete package, and too me his ceiling seems to be 2nd or third babyface.
He could be top heel though
Reigns just looks like guy who was specifically designed to be a wrestler. My only concern is that Rollins and Ambrose get overlooked because of him. I think Ambrose in particular has main-event heel written all over him.
ReplyDeleteIf i do mass amounts of cocaine, I know the risk. If i have a heart attack at 54, I have nobody to blame but myself. It was his choice that he had every right to make. It's really hard to feel sympathetic for that aspect of this since he made that choice as an adult
ReplyDeleteYea, I'm not saying that it's right. At all.
ReplyDeleteWell, a top heel is a top star.
ReplyDeleteRoman Reigns is going to get them so many new female fans that it's not even funny. When's the last time the WWE had a bonafide sex symbol? I remember when The Rock used to flirt with Lillian Garcia... EVERYBODY ate that shit up!!
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't just this blog
ReplyDeleteThe speculation was wverywhere online
Well now he's dead too so I'd say he got his universal comeuppance.
ReplyDeleteAddiction may be a disease, but using something in the first place IS a choice.
ReplyDeleteI won't become addicted to cigarettes or heroin if I choose not to try them in the first place.
If only Fred Phelps had worn face paint.
ReplyDeleteYou do realize that when a wrestler dies, a majority of the public thinks either suicide or overdose
ReplyDeleteFunny how the genes in that family work: you're either a sex symbol or obese.
ReplyDeleteThis is kind of like when religious people say the earth is 6,000 years old.
ReplyDeleteI'm conflicted on this
ReplyDeleteBut if Warrior never does steroids, it is unlikely that he is ever famous and successful. He did those steroid for us!
ReplyDeleteGay people die too. OWN is the only one that wins.
ReplyDeleteActually no. It is nothing like that.
ReplyDeleteWell I'd say that has swung almost 180 degrees now.
ReplyDeleteI'm somewhat splitting hairs, but the news peice says THE top star. The Ace.
ReplyDeleteOther then Billy Graham and HHH I can't think of a time when the heel was pushed as the number one attraction
I'm looking at his blog, most of it is fan art work. Would you mind showing me anything or are you merely just speculating
ReplyDeleteActually it says the "next top star", which could also mean the next person to join the rank of top stars.
ReplyDeleteI can just envision Vince at the funeral now:
ReplyDelete"Warrior is...he's...he's trying to CLAW out of the casket!!!"
Too soon?
Tell that to a crack baby.
ReplyDeleteI really don't see the problem here. either you feel bad or you don't. but you don't "need" oder "should" feel anything.
ReplyDeleteIt'll take longer, but if Rollins keeps at it long enough, he could get the Jeff Hardy fanbase.
ReplyDeleteMaybe even a mainevent run
Never
ReplyDeleteHe'd also be alive still. Again, it was his choice. I'm not judging his choice to do steroids, I'm just saying that it had consequences that he knew about.
ReplyDeleteIgnoring science
ReplyDeleteI don't personally share that sentiment, and believe people do deserve sympathy, "we're all humans/we all make mistakes" etc. etc., but Warrior himself very strongly and outspokenly felt the way you do (http://flynnfiles.com/blog/warrior/warrior3.htm), so it's tough to argue.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Meltzer has the latest "list". I think Triple H keeps updating his Notes on his iPhone so it is hard to keep up.
ReplyDeletereally, what kind of "tests" are we talking about?
ReplyDeleteJust because people are aware of the consequences doesn't necessarily mean they know any better.
ReplyDeleteI should have added that caveat.
ReplyDeleteIn MOST cases, addiction comes from personal choices.
I will say that even I felt bad for him after the e-mails became public. Not sure I would have done that, but I imagine Scott was the most irritated of us all having to deal with Caliber himself AND all the complaints about him.
ReplyDeleteI agree in part, getting cancer isn't a choice either.
ReplyDeleteNow seeking treatment or letting it control your life...that's a choice.
People soapbox circle jerk MLKs death. Get over it. It's not the freedom of speech. It's the hatred spewed that goes against people's rights. If he called all black people niggers and wanted to resegregate your narrative would be different. Stop reverse soapboxing and realize were all gonna die. Some of us spew hatred some spew love. Your legacy will be remembered for it.
ReplyDeleteFuck me.
ReplyDeleteApologies, I interpruted it as "next Cena"
But you're right, it could just as much mean "next Randy Orton"
death is tricky, man
ReplyDeleteWhere's BuckDiddy when you need him?
ReplyDeleteEven still is proclaiming this hours after his death necessary?
ReplyDeleteConsidering the family he grew up in I'm sure they prepped him for all the bizarre shit and hazing.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I don't think there's any reason to be automatically saying what a great guy he was. None of us knew him personally anyway. But he was incredible at being a crazy, over-the-top pro-wrestler and I'm sad that there's no chance of ever seeing him shake the ropes again. I had a blast watching him on Monday.
ReplyDeleteUltimate Warrior was not a crack baby. Now there's a sentence I never thought I'd type.
ReplyDeleteProbably not but saying it's tough to feel sympathy for him as opened Pandoras box on this
ReplyDeleteI had a lot of material that I couldn't say last night or today. One including a HHH wearing a Kane mask visiting his coffin.
ReplyDeleteI spew awesomeness
ReplyDeleteI'd say that while Reigns is clearly the 'favorite' in the group right now, neither Ambrose or Rollins are far behind. They got just as big a pop for their tandem topes as Reigns did for his spear on Monday. All three guys will do just fine.
ReplyDeleteNext week's Warrior's wife comes out on Raw "EXCUUUUUUSITY ME!" It'll be great.
ReplyDeletePlus Rollins isn't a fucking loon.
ReplyDeleteI was going to post this as well. Children aren't born from two men or two women being together.
ReplyDeleteNow of course there is artificial insemination, but generally speaking he was correct.
Anyone wanted to ever go to Warrior University? I couldn't have been the only one
ReplyDeleteHe's unusually trim for a Samoan.
ReplyDeleteYeah this thread came to life instantly after that one. Meh, I didn't know the guy either way but I flamed some dude pretty hard in another thread for saying something similar in point but far mote stupid in actual writong so I just wanted to re enter my two cents again less I be called a hypocrite
ReplyDeleteHe must work out.
ReplyDeleteCoolest thing about Warrior is how he said Hulk Hogan..."I'm coming for Foy HOOAKE HOOOGAN"
ReplyDeleteRic Flair, if we are including NWA
ReplyDeleteNo, but a lot of his positives are the same.
ReplyDeleteHe's attractive in a similar way
Usually a safe assumption
ReplyDeleteI mean instinctively I feel like I should just be able to tell some asshole to drink less or go to work instead of getting high and I like to goof on the whole aa thing but I feel like science proved me wrong so I switched sides. Ymmv
ReplyDeleteA ton of posts with a tinge of awesomeness
ReplyDeleteShowers
ReplyDeleteMeh your avatar looks like some other guys from another thread. Still
ReplyDeleteDusty Rhodes proved you can be both!
ReplyDeleteOr not.
At that point you might as well hire a young guy.
ReplyDeleteI know buy there are biochemical imbalances that can cause people to turn to substance abuse. People typically with untreated bipolar or severe depression typically turn to substance absue to try and self medicated. In that sense in don't think it's a "choice."
ReplyDeleteAnyone ever read Warrior's rant after the DVD was released? HOLY SHIT! The guy would've been an amazing brutal heel.
ReplyDeletePlus the nWo
ReplyDeleteWasn't Harley a heel at several points too?
Plus most addiction whether bits drugs, booze, sex, food, etc. are completely rooted in psychological issues that stem from a young age. It's almost impossible to cure those without a LOT of professional help.
ReplyDeleteI love that Warrior was able to get his ultimate revenge on Hogan before passing away: For all of Hogan's trash talk on this DVD about how Warrior meant nothing to the business, Warrior got to be the centerpiece of the Hall Of Fame while Hogan had to watch from the sidelines.
ReplyDeleteAnd Warrior was at least able to leave the business on his terms without people complaining about him killing promotions and holding people down while Hogan saw his legacy get severely tarnished by playing a role in the demise of WCW, a terrible reality show, a sex tape, public battles with his family and most damaging of all, wasting four years of his life running TNA to the ground.
Warrior at least had the class to let go of the spotlight and let the young guys have their moment in the sun.
R.I.P. Jim Hellwig, you will be missed.
Its also genetic
ReplyDeleteProbably had latent homosexuality issues. Look what he did for a living. With guys that anti gay its usually just to fight down their own feelings
ReplyDeleteFor good reason.
ReplyDeleteWhat about ass babies?
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised they didn't complain on the Attitude Era DVD about how the announcers didn't wear suits half the time during that era.
ReplyDeleteWhatever happened to those shirts with the WWE/F logo on the sides anyway? Did those get burned in a bonfire along with all copies of the Chris Benoit DVD?
No it isn't
ReplyDeleteSo he was about 24 hours away from dropping dead on Raw?
ReplyDeleteHarley Race's "Hawk Hogan" > Warrior's "Hooooke Hogan" > Sid's "Hoke Hooogan"
ReplyDeleteSmoking/Doing drugs/drinking etc... all begin with a choice the consequences of those choices are well known. Therefore addiction is a choice. It really is that simple.
ReplyDeleteIs it just me or would anyone else kinda mark out for Impact in the same Manhattan Center ballroom as Raw used to be?
ReplyDeleteAs a kid I thought it was pronounced Hawk Hogan as well. Whoops
ReplyDeleteI always interpreted Warrior's version as Ho Kogan
ReplyDeleteIt would be a cool visual I must admit.
ReplyDeleteWell the AMA says it is, and I am just going by there definition.
ReplyDeleteWell done
ReplyDeleteThe Warrior was one of the reasons I became a fan in the first place. I'll admit he wasn't the most technically sound, but when I was growing up he was exciting and fun to watch.
ReplyDeleteI like you have always been disappointed he's been not well received by the smark community.
I'm just going by the fact that genetics don't make you pick up a beer/joint/needle etc... Genetics probably make it harder to quit something, but it all begins with a choice.
ReplyDeleteI don't think I am going to continue this conversation in this thread though, I didn't mean to get into it to begin with and it seems a tad inappropriate given the circumstances.
Now did the warrior actually do other drugs than steroids? Because he comes across as an anti drug guy to me. Obviously not steroids but he was doing them for money basically. I only bring that up because we may ultimately be debating a meaningless subject if that's the case.
ReplyDeleteIs Ambrose? I don't know hat much about him. I just know he has the face of a born whiner. That irritating, complainey, woe-is-me face that you just want to PUNCH.
ReplyDeleteAnd I mean that as a real positive. He wouldn't have to be the stereotypical chickenshit heel or the dreaded cool heel, he could be a great, effective wrestling champion who just complains incessantly about EVERYTHING.
Handshakes.
ReplyDeleteI whole heartedly agree and it'd my fault partially for bringing all this up. We'll just agree to disagree (but I agree you have a point too)
ReplyDeleteYup. People think Rollins has the least potential but that dude can work. Plus he's quite tall.
ReplyDeleteHoly shit. That would have been the worst thing ever
ReplyDeleteHey so which one was the good rick rude match? The summerslam one or the wm5 one?
ReplyDeleteGranted, most of the hate is warranted but it was a blow to my heart because he was THE reason why I became a fan as well. I never ever cared for Hogan. I was always about Warrior and when he came back in 1996, it was like my prayers were answered.
ReplyDeleteWhat's your favorite warrior match if you take out the two mania matches, the two rude matches, and the htm squash?
ReplyDeleteI love that papa shango blow off
ReplyDeleteHis match with HHH. Loved Lawler's way of saying "HAH! IT'S OVER!"
ReplyDeleteBodybag match vs. the Undertaker at MSG. Shockingly good.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely!
ReplyDeleteDidn't he have two summerslam rude matches?
ReplyDeleteI found both entertaining. They're not workrate matches, but both tell stories. Although the Summerslam one has Roddy Piper's ass.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah that's right.
ReplyDeleteI remember loving a Savage/Warrior cage match from MSG right before Mania 7, back when MSG Network would show the monthly cards.
ReplyDeleteHasn't passed the solo match "tests," that's for sure. Still needs more time in the oven.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah I forgot about summerslam 90
ReplyDeleteThere's also this match he had with Macho Man at MSG that has a soft spot in my heart, mainly because it was included in the first ever WWE VHS tape I ever had as a kid. I think the matches included on the tape were Rude vs. Piper in a cage, Hogan vs. Hercules, Snuka vs. Valentine, and Demolition vs. Powers of Pain Mania V
ReplyDeleteYeah, that's a scary thought.
ReplyDeleteThat would be the SummerSlam match vs Savage (featuring two of the worst ring outfits ever.)
ReplyDeleteDon't doubt Dr. Samson, lol.
ReplyDeleteSo crazy that I was at RAW seeing Warrior cut a promo. The only product I bought during WM weekend in New Orleans was an Ultimate Warrior T-Shirt.
ReplyDeleteWow good call that match was the shit and the flair and perfect angle put it over the top
ReplyDeleteI gave it a 7/10.
ReplyDeleteSadly, it is usually true
ReplyDeleteHas JR ever written a book?
ReplyDeleteHow sad is it that maybe seconds after Brock pinned taker and I picked my jaw up off the floor, I instantly thought "Farva!" Wug thoughts on you never getting to fap it out to Cena/Taker?
ReplyDelete