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 "I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride, even though sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams."
- Aunt May ("Spider-Man 2" 2004)
 
There's a scene about halfway through The Amazing Spider-man 2 where a nerdy 9-year-old kid being bullied is saved when Spidey swings in, scares the bullies, fixes the nerdy kid's science project with a little webbing, tells him he's a super smart kid, and walks him home. 


It was in this dawwwww inspiring moment that "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" - the second movie in a franchise reboot made only to hold on to valuable movie rights, stumbled upon a soul. The movie nails the interpersonal relationship between hero and civilian, ultimately arriving at the very core of what makes superheros timeless and inspiring - hope. 

What kind of hope? Well, that depends on you. For many it's hope that there are truly good people out there doing the best they can to make the world a better place. For others it's the hope that one day, they too, will be a hero, inspired by the actions of others to make their own mark on the world.

And For Max Dillon and Harry Osborne, it's hope that Spider-Man can save the already damned. 

When we last saw Spider-Man, he was in a relatively dark place - "The Amazing Spider-man" was a dour movie, filled with oddly grotesque shots of bullet wounds, carnivorous rats, strange web-pimples, and increasingly poor choices that really made you question why, exactly, Spider-man would keep being Spider-man considering how poorly his first 'adventure' really went. Worse, the movie felt unnecessary and awkward - especially during a "turn the cranes" sequence where capital N capital Y New Yorkahs helped Spider-man save the day as Spidey lingered in front of an American Flag for an extra half second.   

And first impressions of "The Amazing Spider-man 2" are actually pretty poor, starting with a relatively long introduction involving Peter's parents going on the lamb in an effort to avoid being captured and killed for 'treason'. The high-altitude brawl involves some pretty good action, but feels strangely disconnected from what we'd expect from a typical super-hero movie these days - though it's paid off in a way that's pretty creative - but likely annoying to long-time fans. 

Following that sequence, the movie begins proper with some astounding Spider-man action. All the credit in the world goes to Marc Webb who remembered that Spider-Man should be fun. 

This is the most creative Spidey has been in combat since "The Spectacular Spider-Man" TV show. He uses web, acrobatics, and cunning tactics to disarm and subdue enemies in creative ways that leave you smirking. In fact the movie ends on such a BAD ASS MOMENT I let out a "Fuck Yeah!" to laughter of the theater.

But better than that, Spidey's a smart-ass in the best of ways - the opening sequence featuring several laugh-out-loud quips. 


These quips are so omnipresent (and so good) that even the requisite, "FDNY / NYPD huzzah!" moment is played for yucks, with Spider-man high-fiving first responders like they won a baseball game after using a fire-hose to great effect. The whole scene is played with familiarity, like Spider-Man has been helping New York's finest forever, and knows most of them on a nickname basis. 

There's an optimism inherent to this movie's Spider-Man. He's kind. He's compassionate. He opts for a peaceful solution first - in fact attempting to talk down pretty much every person he fights in this movie in a very calm and understated and believable way that endears you to the character. 

Because Spider-man feels right, a lot of the other stuff in the movie that feels a little hammy / campy / over-the-top is easier to swallow. 

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 sets up three separate story threads threads and intertwines them in relatively creative ways. Despite what you may have heard about this movie being 'packed' with villains and shoe-horning in Rhino, a Green Goblin, references to Vulture, Dr. Octopus, and others - the real conflicts in the movie are interpersonal in nature. 

The first of these threads is the arc of Jamie Fox's Max Dillon. Max has such crippling social anxiety that it hurts to watch - His first solo scene involves him monologing to a cut-out poster of Spider-Man the day after Spider-man saved him from certain doom while singing happy birthday to himself. Fox plays this scene with a hint of a wink - Max knows that talking to a fake Spider-man poster to start his day is weird, but is too emotionally crippled to care. Dillon is balding, socially inept, has no friends, and is constantly bossed around by the far younger, far bossier, far-more-confident Alistair Smythe (played wonderfully by BJ Novak of "The Office" fame).  

It seems Marc Webb and Jamie Foxx were trying to say something about specific about hero worship with the Dillon character, an inverse of the old "If God is your Co-pilot, switch seats" adage. In this case, Spider-man is Max's pilot - the thing he invests himself in 100 percent, looks up to, and aspires to be in order to get him through the day, at the expense of social interaction or actual self betterment.

Once Max becomes Electro, he maintains his humanity for a time. He just wants to be noticed. I'll leave the details of how him and Spider-Man end up fighting in Times Square in a really creative fight out, save to say that never in my LIFE did I think a dub-step-styled inner monologue for a character would be so entertaining.

Ultimately the character feels a bit like Bruce Banner's personality meets Dr. Manhattan's powers - A man once seething with inward anger he couldn't possibly begin to express - until he can.

The second of the three story threads involves one Harry Osborn - last seen thoroughly enjoying pie in Spider-Man 3. Harry is going to die unless he gets his hands on Spider-man's blood. He has the same degenerative disease that was that the thrust of Norman Osborn's research in the first movie, and is a pretty interesting character. 

Harry isn't evil, really, but he is entitled and is desperate. He has all the money in the world and it's ultimately worthless when it comes to his quandary. Harry and Peter have a past and they have a couple of scenes together to establish their past and it humanizes Harry in an ultimately tragic way. 

As the movie progresses and he continues to make more drastic choices, you never get a sense that Harry is evil until he truly breaks bad as the movie heads into its third act. Before that, Harry is genuinely sympathetic - well as sympathetic as any multibillionaire heir to a fortune can be. He's entitled and demanding, but in a way that's understandable when you have a disease you're desperately trying to cure. 


There's a scene toward the end of the film where Harry suddenly realizes an important detail and seethes with rage over the things he did to himself that could have been avoided had Spider-Man been more honest.

I did NOT go into this film expecting to like this character, and by the end of the film I didn't, but it was for all the right reasons.

The last thread is the relationship between Peter Parker and Spider-Man and Gwen Stacy. Peter Parker is dealing with abandonment issues, a dead uncle, graduating high-school, and a girlfriend who may-or-may not be leaving the country - all problems created more-or-less by his becoming Spider-Man. 

Peter sees ghosts of Denis Leary's Captain Stacy giving a stern, dead-eyed, judgmental glare pretty much anytime he comes in contact with Gwen. There's one of these toward the end of the film that will rip your heart out if you have any knowledge whatsoever of the Spider-Man myths.

The chemistry between Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone has been talked about endlessly in other reviews, but I will say I enjoyed what a powder keg Stone becomes in the movie's third act, becoming a hero in her own right - though she never gets super powers. 

When the three story-lines converge there's a tragic element to it all. No one wants to be here. No one in this movie is set on world domination, and all the characters have traits that both define them, damn them, and make them feel human. 

Which makes the resolution all the more incredible.

*SPOILERS*
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Gwen Stacy dies at the end of "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" and it's handled in such a brutally understated way that Caliber Winfield refuses to believe it actually happened. But it happened, and it's heart breaking, and Gwen is really dead - until the clone saga kicks in around the fifth or sixth film, anyway.

I'll try not to spoil too much of the how and why, but eventually it comes down to a crumbling clock tower, a free-falling Gwen Stacy, and one of the most brutally under-played deaths in recent memory. 

Spidey shoots a web and through slow motion we see the it grab her and start to take hold. The camera changes to a wide shot, and there's a single thud a split second before the web pulls her up - Spidey was too late. The girl behind me in the theater starts to cry immediately. Gwen's gone. Because he ignored Captain Stacy, and due to the damage of battle, the hands of time have literally and figuratively stopped for Peter Parker.

The next several minutes of the film are heart-breaking, and how Spider-Man comes out of his funk is classic comic books and a great Aunt May moment - who may or may not know Peter is Spider-Man (I think she does).

  
*END SPOILERS*

One of the most cherished Spider-Man stories of all time, "The Kid who Collects Spider-Man" is beloved because it's about as grounded as superhero stuff gets without being all 'dark' and 'gritty'. It leaves you with a bittersweet taste in your mouth and a half smile. 

The best moments of "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" feel like that story - it warms your heart, rips it out, but takes special care to put it back in again. This movie is personal, intimate, and familiar in a comfortable way - there are moments that shock and moments that inspire, and not only did Sony not screw up Spider-Man, they made him more tangible than ever. 

The themes of obsession, corruption, and all consuming passion - Max to be noticed, Harry to live, Peter to be with Gwen are universal in a way - we've all wanted to be someone else, buy something not for sale, or be with a woman that we knew meant disaster.

Sure there are certainly dozens of cliches we've seen dozens of times in the dozens of comic book movies that have come out since X-Men was back in 2000. And it's obvious this version of Spider-Man was manufactured, not crafted. It wasn't brought to the cinema through one man's die-hard passion for the content. But then again, comic books come out every month whether or not the person writing them has a truly unique vision - and those can be pretty damn good, too. 

Like a good ice coffee, it's not always how fresh the ingredients are - every coffee has beans, ice, sugar, cream, but rather how those ingredients come together to create something that's tasty in a "Well I certainly didn't expect THAT from Starbucks" sort of way. Sometimes the beauty of cliche is in its familiarity. 

Of all the Spider-Man movies and TV shows, this one feels the most familiar - mixing the zany and angsty almost perfectly.

"The Amazing Spider-Man 2" is a big-budget comic book through and through - it's exciting and bombastic and bright and fun. It sets up stuff for the future, pays off stuff from the past, and is creative visually. If you're willing to give yourself to this movie and shut out the bad reviews, it's cynical purpose for existing, and enjoy its heartwarming moments like the one I mentioned in the opening paragraph, its evil German doctor at the Ravencroft institute, and crazy dub-step battles in Times Square - That Spidey Sense of yours may just get tickled in the way only a spider can.  


Better than all of that, though is SPIDER-MAN KEEPS HIS FUCKING MASK ON MOST OF THE MOVIE.  
 

Comments

  1. There is something in the spoiler that you interpreted wrong I believe.

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  2. I don't like comic books or comic book movies. That is all.

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  3. I refuse to watch any of the "Amazing Spiderman" movies, simply because I have already seen the 3 Spiderman movies just a decade ago. Zero reason to reboot the franchise that soon.

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  4. I thought the first ASM was decent. Haven't heard glowing praise about this one though. When will people learn that less villains are more sometimes.

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  5. Dumb question...are comics as popular in other countries or is it predominantly a USA thing?

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  6. I don't think that's a dumb question, I too am curious about that. It seems like they are a global thing.

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  7. There's only two real villians. Rhino is mostly a cameo / narrative device, Electro is sympathetic for a good chunk of the movie, and Harry isn't a bad guy, either, really.

    It's a pretty complex, heh, web.

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  8. Those other movies wrote themselves into a terrible corner. They killed Eddie Brock and made him a wimp, killed Harry Obsorn, let Sandman GO for some reason, had the backstories of Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane kinda backwards, and Toby Maguire looked about 60 years old.

    They could have done a movie with The Lizard or The Black Cat or something, but Venom is kind of such a monster force that anything after that would feel like a letdown.

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  9. Caliber or Aunt May?

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  10. They are,say you're a iron man fan and you can bang a chick.

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  11. The sentence that began with "The camera changes to a wide shot" I think you interpreted why what happened... happened. Its very hard to explain without spoiling

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  12. Because he doesn't like Iron Man, obviously.

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  13. I'm doing tomorrow in a comics convention.

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  14. You can also say you're a batman fan.

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  15. Oh right, and lying to get laid would be bad.

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  16. Don't care about lying.

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  17. Can't compromise your taste in superheroes. It's not something inconsequential like if you're married or not.

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  18. It's sort of like in Star Trek 09 where they beam Kirk and Sulu back from the giant drill, and because they're falling so fast their masks smash.

    Sort of like that?

    Or to put it another way, you caught the cupcake right after the top hit the carpet.

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  19. I would have thought it would be impossible to run a Spider-Man franchise into the ground, but Orci keeps reaching new heights I guess.

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  20. Toby didn't look like he was about 60, more like a 30 year old.

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  21. That was my (and probably most peoples) biggest issue with the new films. I had my fill of Spidey for a while and had little-to-know interest in seeing a reboot so soon. But hey, studios gotta make a buck, and boy did they.


    I did end up seeing the first ASM and promptly forgot about it an hour later because it all felt so familiar. I could take it or leave it. I will probably end up seeing this one sooner or later just out of sheer curiosity, but I'm in no hurry.

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  22. Huh, wasn't aware lam over lamb there. Damn homophones

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  23. Nothing would have been a letdown after Topher Grace's performance.

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  24. Good point! I thought the idea was that the web caught her, and started JUSST after she hit the floor. But I like your idea / the comics idea a lot better actually. though it's ambiguous enough that hopefully they follow up on it!

    Also is that scene where they pull out from overhead a direct copy of the scene in the comic?

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  25. Just a shame it won't happen quick enough to get Garfield-as-Spidey under the Disney branch

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  26. Disney owns Marvel, yet they can't get most of the good franchises in the MCU.

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  27. A bit off topic, but considering I'm not exactly excited to see this new ASM, but am I the only one who is also getting tired of the X-Men and/or Wolverine films? I haven't even bothered to watch the last Wolverine one from last year, and DOFP just looks "ok."

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  28. I dunno, I think Spider-man is pretty expandable in his own universe - there's such a huge roster - Venom, Goblin, Mary Jane, Carnage, and so on and so forth, and this movie is really good, too- I'd check it out.

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  29. It will never happen. Sony will keep making Spider-Man movies no matter what.

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  30. I dare them to bring Carnage or Miles Morales.

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  31. I hope Wolverine 3 is a adaptation of Old man Logan.

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  32. I think that is an idea hinted at by Andrew Garfield actually - he said that Bringing in Miles after he left the franchise would be a cool way to reboot without rebooting.

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  33. True, but imagine they lose 100 million or more on one of these Spiderman movies. Can see them reaching a deal where they maintain individual rights but cross lease back to the Avengers

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  34. But Arad said Peter is the only Spider-man you'll get,also idiots would complain about the change.I'm eager to see Flash as Venom,he's so much better than Brock.

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  35. Right now, I say that some of my favorite Marvel Hero's have to be The Fantastic 4 and Tony Stark for the fact that they don't hide their identity.

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  36. I thought First Class was pretty good. I think the thing with Comic Book movies is that now they're a genre onto themselves - so the things they do within the margins of the cliches become the cool stuff, so with DOFP doing a TOTALLY DIFFERENT thing (but in line with what The X-Men do), I'm excited.

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  37. Plus, even if Marvel got him back today, it would be at least 5 years until they brought him out.

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  38. Don't forget in 2016 The age of Apocalypse.

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  39. Slowly build him at the end of each film.

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  40. Not a hero,The Punisher is my favorite comics character,he's underrated.

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  41. I don't think they're losing any money on the spider-man movies. At all. They're made on the relative cheap, there's merchandising out the wazoo, secondary market, games, and various iconography to exploit.

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  42. I think that the Punisher and Deadpool are 2 of those heroes that Disney will never make films for.

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  43. Never.Too bad,Frank is a complex character.

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  44. Yeah, that's the rub. Really like Garfield's portrayal, just not on board with the overall story or Sony's desperate Spideyverse. The "lose 100 million" was just conjecture as only way they'd possibly sorta share with Disney. Sony maintains Spiderman solos or spinoffs, they get a taste of Avengers....but yeah, money out the ass from this so not going to happen

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  45. Avi has already said no Miles.

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  46. These movies aren't made for cheap AT ALL. And it's going to have the lowest opening weekend of all the Spider-Man movies.

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  47. None of those characters can hold their own movie.

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  48. TJ:Not a fan of COD,but this trailer with Kevin Spacey is really cool

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFu5qXMuaJU

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  49. Never played COD either, was never a shooting games man.

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  50. I like the genre a little bit.Black,Syphon filter(1,2,3),Urban Chaos,World is not enough.

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  51. Ever play Halo?

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  52. No,I played Gears of War 2 years ago,I thought it was pretty good.I'm more of a fighting game guy.

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  53. Since we're in a comics kind of mood, anyone else go for Free Comic Day? My local place burned through most of their inventory within an hour.

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  54. It's set to make more then Thor fpr the opening weekend (less then Cap)

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  55. International. American comics have recognition internationally, but more so their own local markets.

    I know someone really into comics from France--and Japan's manga is well known

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  56. I watched it with the same friend. Boring as shit.

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  57. That's why I like watching wrestling matches more than once: It's a better way, I think, to judge it as an art.

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  58. I don't get the negative reaction. I thought the movie was fun. Spiderman kicked ass, the 2 villains had clear motives, and the Rhino cameo was the most cheesy EEEEVVVIIILLLL villain you could hope for.

    Just good, campy fun.

    You know--like comic books are.

    Cap 2, which I liked, was WAY more overstuffed with questionable bullshit (Shield was comically in the wrong with theri heli-deathstars)

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  59. I made out well. 7 free somics of varying quality, got wedding of deadpool and deadpool kills the marvel universe cheap--a hyrule historia for 1/4 price, and dirt cheap Mass Effect comics

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  60. Spider-Man is way way way more popular than both.

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  61. "I don't get the negative reaction. I thought the movie was fun. Batman kicked ass, the 2 villains had clear motives, and the Bane cameo was the most cheesy EEEEVVVIIILLLL villain you could hope for.

    Just good, campy fun.

    You know--like comic books are."



    -You in the 1997 when Batman and Robin came out.

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  62. If there was any doubt that Sting was still a massive babyface star at the time, the match against Goldberg in September of 98 should have proven otherwise. That was the only match during the streak that Goldberg wasn't the fan favorite.

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  63. kbwrestlingreviewsMay 3, 2014 at 8:15 PM

    I was the same age and loved it too. Looking back though it's not the best story in the world.

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  64. The whole nWo Red vs White angle sucked anyway. I liked the idea of the Wolfpack/Kliq as a faction within the nWo as they are a known former WWF faction. But to recruit B-level players to their side against B-level nWo black and white guys was just exhausting to watch.
    To me the nWo was at it's best with former WWF players who were legit. Hollywood Hogan, Macho Man, Dibiase and to stay true to the "source material" I'll even accept Virgil and Liz. That group with the Kliq/Wolfpack Hall, Nash, and Syxx. There's your top nWo faction. Bischoff in the end does make sense. Any WWF guys to follow would have been totally acceptable. Big Bossman, Crush, Rick Rude and Curt Henning. In fact Henning would have been a great addition without watering down the faction.
    With the Wolfpack breakiing off, I would have even accepted the Hart Foundation as a replacement of Bret, Bulldog and Anvil, or any combination of them.
    I know it was a bit late, but even nWo 2000 was a sweet faction on paper. Hart, Outsiders and Jarrett were all legit players with serious WWF roots.

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  65. See I thought the nwo didn't need to be all former wwf guys. You had your big 3. You add in syxx and then use it to make other guys as well. Konnan , bagwell, steiner were perfect choices. Hell I thought the disciple gimmick was a great fit as well. But I don't think boss man in the nwo or even Virgil was or would have been .

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