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Kayfabe Commentaries YouShoot with Kevin Nash

Your host is Sean Oliver

This was released in early 2013

It is a two-disc set that total at slightly over two and a half hours


EARLY DAYS


Not much happened in this section but it is clear from the start that Nash has been drinking as he is noticeably buzzed. Luckily, he is still hilarious as he jokingly yells how he wasn't "fucking good enough" when asked why he played basketball in Germany instead of the United States. He also said that Hulk Hogan was his inspiration to get into wrestling and laughs that it gives the "smart marks" another reason to hate Hogan.




RATS AND SEX


When asked about the WWF "rat scene" in the Northeast in the early 90's, Nash said it was so bad they really were rats. Nash said you can tell how good the business is doing by the quality of the girls. He tells a story during the nWo heyday at a show in Miami. He said he was in the first segment then went back to the hotel and saw two girls at the end of the bar who on a scale of 1-10 were both 20's. A bartender comes over to him and says that he ladies wanted to buy him a drink. Sean asks him what happened and Nash jokes that he thought his wife behind this then questions if the guy who asked the question really thinks that as a married guy would tell about banging chicks on the road.


Nash is now asked if any of the guys liked to go "hoggin" back in the day. He said that oddly enough, Henry Goodwin did it as they joked about he lived the hog farmer gimmick. Nash then talks about how on a 23 day road trip , Goodwin fucked 35 different girls including a known rat that they called "Dickie Slater" because she looked just liked the wrestler. Nash also said how by girls, he means that they had vaginas. He also thinks that Bam Bam Bigelow might have nailed "Dickie Slater" too.


Now we have some F, Marry, Kill with Stephanie McMahon, Ryan Shamrock, Nitro Girl Whisper. He said he would marry Steph because she is a good mom then kill the other two, because they are with his friends and wouldnt want to fuck them.


When asked why Sean Waltman's dick curved, he said it is probably due to over masturbating, like everyone else. Nash then joked that his dick has as much feeling as "Yogi Berra's mit."


They do the Ho Bag Now. Not a whole lot happened here. Nash said that he had hired Stacy Keibler and Torrie Wilson for WCW and said that he would marry them if he wasnt already. He then said how Terri Runnels is the only person in wrestling who he exchanges Christmas cards with today. He said that Kimberly Page was great when she played with his son one day and saw a motherly instinct and must have been miserable because DDP did not want children. He threw Missy Hyatt in the Ho Bag. He said that he heard stories of ODB being with several wrestlers and that he likes her. He tosses Kimona in the ho bag too but doesnt remember who she was with. He thinks that Karen Jarrett gets a bad rep because people want to fuck her then spread rumors about her when it doesnt happen. Nash said that no matter how bad your reputation is, he can spend five minutes watching you with your kid and see how you are.



TRIPLE H


He is asked point blank if he thinks that HHH dated Stephanie McMahon in order to get high into the company. Nash said no and joked that would be something he would do. He then talks about how HHH is really one of the nicest people you will meet and said after meeting his parents, he saw that HHH grew up like "Leave it to Beaver" and talks about how he never touched any drugs or drank.



RUMORS


Nash is asked since he was a groomsman at HHH's wedding, did Michael Hayes really get escorted off of the stage for being too drunk. Nash said that he got up there and sang a Southern Rock song and how it was cute for about 30 seconds but brutal after that and he did end up getting carried off.


When asked about the best backstage fight he ever saw, he said it was Orndorff beating on Vader in WCW. Nash confirmed that Orndorff dropped him twice with one hand and that he did it while wearing $0.99 shower shoes. Nash talks about how he is a man's man and very intense overall.


Now, Nash is asked who's ass stunk the most while it was in his face when he performed a jackknife powerbomb. He said that no one stood out and that they all were on the road 24/7 and smelled bad anyway.


A video submission asks Nash if The Steiners would bully the younger talent. When Sean asks if that is true, Nash said that Scott once duct taped a guy to a chair and stuck a pencil up his ass and he told Scott that he was leaving the room because it was sodomy and he did not want to end up in court deposition as a result. Nash then said Scott would fuck with anyone and once saw him kick out Lex Luger's feet, causing him to flip over. Nash talks about how no one would fight Scotty as he was crazy. Nash then talks about how they roomed together a few times and in the middle of the night, Scott would come over and put you in a hold and Nash said that he would punch Scott in the head as hard as he could and Scott would just laugh and yell at him for snoring.


Nash is asked about DDP and if he was only pushed because of his friendship with Bischoff. He recalls being next to Bischoff at a Nitro in Chattanooga and seeing DDP hit Saturn with the Diamond Cutter and how the whole place erupted. He told Bischoff that DDP was over and he did not say anything back. That night at the bar, Nash said they saw the replay and he told Bischoff that he was hurting DDP by not pushing him and that he was over and no one would say anything about their friendship. Nash said that he was with Hall and they came up with an angle for DDP, who Nash said he owed after telling him not to quit the business before he went to the WWF.  The angle was that DDP would be the first one to get to the Outsiders.


He is asked about one thing he wished people knew about Vince McMahon. He said that he is great around his grandkids. He is asked about one thing that isn't true about Hogan and Nash said that he is not a dick and will stop and sign every single autograph.



TWITTER QUESTIONS


Nash is asked about how he felt when Vince bought WCW. He said that he got to sit home and get paid 16 months to do even less than the eight years prior when he got the "Big Lazy" nickname.


His biggest payday was WrestleMania 12. When asked how much, said he could not by a Maibach.


Said the best hair dye product is to spend some fucking money and go to a salon.


He is asked if he had any Jim Cornette stories. He said that he hated that motherfucker until a few years ago in TNA when he was in a production meeting with no one who knew about wrestling and realized that Cornette was his only ally. He then tells a story of how he and X Pac went to a pet store and bought 20 frogs. Waltman then stuck the frogs in Cornette's jacket and took it outside where he smashed it against the wall repeatedly then brought it back inside and hung it up as if nothing happened. Nash then jokes that was his seventh move, referencing Cornette's comments about Nash having only six wrestling moves.



THESPIAN


Nash is asked about filming "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2." He said it was his first movie and you remember that like your first piece of ass. He said he filmed that for six weeks and made more doing that then he did the rest of the year for wrestling.


When asked if John Travolta was gay, Nash said that after filming "The Punisher," he told his buddy that there is no way that dude is not gay as when they went for a photo together, Travolta was grabbing his waist and then in the makeup chair, Travolta put his arm around him while Nash was topless.


He said he turned down the a role in "X Men"  because they offered him $75,000 to film for sixteen weeks in Vancouver when at the time he was making $139,000 every two weeks to smoke dope, drink beer, and walk down the ring with Scott Hall. Nash said fuck that.


Nash said that wrestling is much more backstabbing than the film industry, calling it the chess game.


Sean shows a clip of Nash's video game commercial for "Monster Truck Madness" for Nintendo 64. Nash said he has no memory of filming this and jokes that he could have fucked the girl in the commercial or she could have fucked him with a strap on and he still would not remember.



DRUGS


Nash is asked about the drug use in WWF and WCW when he was there. He said in the WWF, you could not smoke pot as they would piss test you twice in a day at times, joking that it makes sense because if you overdose on something, it's gonna be marijuana. He said it was a joke and back then, you could shake an Advil bottle and everyone would run over like puppy dogs. Recently, Nash said he did that in a locker room but no one even looked up. In WCW, Nash said that they would drink at noon and says that is a probably a reason why he doesnt remember the video game commercial.


Its time for "What's in the Bag", where Sean pulls out an item and Nash says the first name that comes to his mind:

Jack Daniels: Undertaker
Marijuana: X Pac
Shit: X Pac or Tammy
Cocaine: "When I left the room"
Pills: anyone
Crack: Jake Roberts
Needle: Nash tells an incredible story about the Warlord. He said that the Warlord walked up to Shawn Michaels in the locker room, holding a 5cc syringe asking Shawn to inject him. Shawn tries to inject him in the ass, using both thumbs, but cannot push it in and pulls it out, giving it back to Warlord and told him that thinks he is full.
Big Black Dick: Virgil


Nash' record amount of Soma's in one day was 33. He tells a story of how he was with Scott and someone else and split a bag of 100 Soma's then Hall told them all the next day that he took 34 of them, as they only took 33. Nash talks about how he and Shawn would take 10 before the ring and time it out so they would kick in after they left the ring. Nash said how you did that because you do not want to be the last guy at the party.


During the nWo heyday, Nash is asked who they partied with. He said that they always stayed at the Marriott with the Nitro Girls and a nice mixture of rats. He said they would watch replays and always thought the reason to get into wrestling was to hang with your buddies and put yourself over but now it is to get into a bus after the show and go to the next town and not talk wrestling. Nash said that Bischoff was a beer drinker and could really pound them all night long.



ROAD STORIES


Someone asks him how often he get stopped in the airport, stating it seems to be important to him. Nash talks about how the guy is questioning his statement and that Nash said what he means by being recognized at an airport is that you are big enough so as when you walk by people, they know not to fuck with you.


Nash is asked about the Maxx Payne Documentary trailer, which they show, and he joked how you never see Maxx Payne and Kathy Bates in the same shot then questions the purpose of the video. Sean asks him how much footage he had and Nash said they showed the boys with pill bottles in their hands and jokes that in his next film, he can show everyone breath on the bus before he has a sip of beer.


When asked how he adjusts to life back home after being on the road, Nash said that you don't. Sean follows up by asking Nash how he has kept his marriage together for 25 years.



HEAT


Nash is questioned about Bischoff calling him "Big Lazy" in his book. Nash said he has no ill feelings against Bischoff. He then said that Hogan told him in a match after he grabbed him in a headlock to take it easy because they already had the crowds money.


Sean shows Nash a clip from the Shane Douglas YouShoot when he talks about how Shawn Michaels wanted Pierre fired after a match with Nash in Canada when Pierre wanted to set up for a return match and as Nash picked up the phone, someone told him to hang it up and had an idea to make Vince "starve" him for two years. Nash jokes that they are "evil fucks" and said that the next night in Ottawa, he kicked him in the face and won the match with a powerbomb so it was pretty much over. He then talks about how Shane was on tour with them and in the bus, sat next to Yokozuna and told him he was too tired to go tonight, causing Yoko to tell him that he didnt care what he needed to take and to eat a pill and man up and go out there. Shane did not do it so HHH had to work a double that night as a result. Nash then said that he never had a problem with either of them. Nash said that it is all a work and denied that he ever put up a stink for doing a job. Nash tells a story of how Hall was supposed to squash Chris Jericho, who at the time had been in WCW for about a month. During the match, Hall noticed that he had some talent and decided to put in over and when they went through the curtain, Bischoff yelled at Hall, who told Bischoff that he made him and that he was bulletproof. Nash talks about how he has no prolem being the first one eliminated in the Survivor Series.


Time for "What a Dick." He calls Arn Anderson the most underrated worker of all time. He calls Paul Heyman a "douchebag" and throws him in the bag because Heyman said no one should be in the ring after the age of 35 as Nash laughs at how he is "93" and is in the ring holding the belt in the background. He talks about Shawn, who he said was occasionally a dick to them but the only guy who could "motherfucker" Vince and get away with it so he could use his power. Calls Lance Storm a "sweetheart." Says he likes Konnan but when he was booker in WCW, Konnan fucked him a few times and could backstab but Sean goes off on Konnan and throws him in the bag. Nash said that when The Rock came back in 2002, he was a dick. He likes Bully Ray after working with him in TNA. He puts Dusty Rhodes in the bag because he took a "7-foot guy who gets pussy and put him in a green cone," referencing his Oz character. He calls Brian Knobbs a "lovable dick."


Next, they show a clip of New Jack saying that Nash kept him out of WCW because of things people told him and how they met at an autograph signing the year prior and playfully put his hands on him and said it was good to see him and Jack said that they have never met before. Nash jokes how Jack said he would put someone in a headlock that he never met and seems shocked at what he said and denied the incident ever took place.


Someone asks Nash about Matt Borne's obsession with him. They show a clip of Borne telling Nash he never should have been broken into the business after he called the wrestling business "fake." Borne is almost in tears at this point. Nash jokes how Borne is looking for a "Ricky Morton" payday and that he will buy him a "grill." Nash said that in WCW when Borne was Big Josh, he was always clumsy and once dropped him on his head. Nash is hysterical in his raggingon Borne, joking that he is real and gave blood the other day. Sean quetions Nash if Borne was holding true to the old school beliefs as Nash said there is a reason why Borne did not make it, because he is a dumb fuck, then talks about how if you walk into a casino in Vegas and try to place a bet on a WrestleMania match, there is a reason you can't. He said that Capt. Lou Albano told him only two things are true in the business, money and miles, then asked Borne who the fuck broke him in and if he taught him that money was the most important, maybe he would have someone today.


Now, Nash is shown a clip of the Bob Holly YouShoot when he talks about the Kliq pushing his buttons and during an overseas tour. Holly talks about how Nash was sitting on a box as Nash himself asks why they would have TV boxes at a show in Europe. Nash said if he really said anything to them, he would not have had a job and someone would have shit in his bag. Nash said Bob was tough and never had a problem with him but he was an opening match guy at that time. Nash then said that they were all too fucked up to push anyone's buttons and what does push your buttons is after day 21 of the tour, you are miserable and see five guys walk in laughing and having a good time, referencing the Kliq.


Sean shows Nash the clip of Cornette talking about how he studied Nash to help out the Fake Diesel character and counted six moves including a hair flip. Nash then said there is a guy called Nolan Ryan who only has two pitches and he did time. When the follow up question was asked which move he would add to his moveset, Nash said it would be to teabag Cornette.


Someone asks him about his "hissy fit" backstage on Samoa Joe after his shoot at Turning Point 2007. Nash said is smacking him twice a hissy fit. Nash said that he smacked Joe in the face after he said that promo was his idea then he smacked him again when he thought Joe was going to come after him. Nash again questions how that could be considered a "hissy fit." He later said that Joe apologized to all of them the next day and that they are friends.




DISC TWO




FASHION


Some guy jokes how much pussy he should expect in one night from wearing Zubas, Fanny Pack, FUBU, and birkenstocks. Nash jokes for this guy none and that he wore that to keep the pussy off of him, as he was married. He said that they wore fanny packs because it was impossible to carry 120 somas and 120 percocets in your pockets.



POTPOURRI


Someone asks Nash how to pick up girls and this brings us to a segment in which Nash attempts to coach Sean to get chicks, as they are next to two girls. This segment goes on for far too long (13 minutes to be exact) and if you are unaware of these techniques, you are probably a virgin.


He is asked about his Pat Patterson impression and they show Nash impersonate him backstage going over a match with him. It was pretty funny, actually.


Now, he is asked about being a red wine enthusiast and this leads to another segment with Sean and Nash sampling wine as Nash talks about while he talks about how to open and select wines. This ran for ten minutes and a completely skippable segment.


Someone asks him about Wade Keller, with Nash ragging on the guy looking like he shot John Lennon and that he has someone hostage in his house. Nash said that Wade is a friend of his and that he was talking to him about politics a few days ago, noting that they both lean to the left wing. Nash said that he likes Wade because he does his newsletter as a journalist, saying what happens while letting the rest, like Bruce Mitchell, write hacky pieces.



THE BOYS


Nash is shown a picture from his last European tour before he left for WCW. He recalls that night and said that he and Scott Hall made everyone, from the wrestlers to the agents, smoke hash, except for HHH, who they gave a pass because he did not use drugs.


Someone asks him to tell a story about Rick Rude. He said that Rude went to pick him up from TV in his new Ford Explorer. He driveway was on a slope and he was in his house with the car running when Rude noticed his kid went in the car and put the car in neutral and the car went down the hill and crashed through the garage of the person across the street. Rude then walked down and said to the neighbor that he lived up the street and this was his kid.


Gillberg himself asks Nash who was the best jobber of all time. Nash said it was Jeff Hardy when he was "twelve." Nash said he was fucking incredible.


 They do more F, Marry Kill with Scott Hall, Shawn Michaels, and Sean Waltman. He said Waltman was a freak so he would fuck him, Marry Shawn Michaels and kill Scott Hall.



WCW


Someone sends a video regarding the "fingerpoke of doom" and why he lied about Goldberg breaking his hand a year after the fingerpoke incident as the reason for no follow up. Nash said it was set up for Goldberg to have a heel faction but it did not work for some reason and said he told Goldberg that Bret was going to drop the bat before going to the car for him to use but Goldberg insisted on using a piece of metal.


Someone asks him how he feels about not having a single match in WCW rated higher than ** by Dave Meltzer and Nash completely no-sells the question and says how he just got a dividend check for $177,000 for the money he saved. He then says that his portfolio is *****.


The Blue Meanie sends a video question on his opinion of the bWo parody he was part of in ECW. Nash jokes that he would kill Stevie and fuck Blue Meanie but said he liekkd that paid homage to him and appreciates how they put thought into the bit.



Final Thoughts: Well, this was a tale of two discs. The first disc is filled with classic stuff. Nash was hysterical throughout and told some great stories. He was even funnier when he was making comments during the video questions, especially during the Matt Borne clip. Whether or not you agree with him, you will be entertained, which are the main purpose of the YouShoot's. They are a more relaxed shoot interview overall.

However, the second disc was a dud. I appreciate Sean Oliver and his willingless to go outside of the box, the dating segment was a momentum killer. It derailed the shoot. And the wine segment was another dud and those two segments made up a majority of the second disc.


Overall, I do recommend this shoot but the second disc is mostly skippable. Luckily, the first disc makes up the majority of the shoot. The first disc is great.

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Comments

  1. OMG, the part with the chicks is terrible.

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  2. A complete waste of time

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  3. Sean follows up by asking Nash how he has kept his marriage together for 25 years.

    Did Nash not answer?

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  4. All he said was that his wife should be nominated for sainthood

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  5. Eating so much Korean...

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  6. I cant even comprehend how Sean would think this would even be entertaining. The chicks werent in the slightest bit cute.


    It felt like the Miss NWO contest.

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  7. "and if you are unaware of these techniques, you are probably a virgin."

    Well duh, that's why I was hoping you would write this part out!

    /Dave Schererrererere

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  8. The blond girl was a 4/10 and the other one had a busted face

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  9. I really love Nash's 95 timeline shoot

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  10. "Needle: Nash tells an incredible story about the Warlord. He said that the Warlord walked up to Shawn Michaels in the locker room, holding a 5cc syringe asking Shawn to inject him. Shawn tries to inject him in the ass, using both thumbs, but cannot push it in and pulls it out, giving it back to Warlord and told him that thinks he is full."
    I don't know why but I can't stop laughing at the punchline.

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  11. CruelConnectionNumber2June 27, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    Why would WWF Champion Diesel be backstage at WCW during the Monday Night Wars and see Orndorff fight Vader? Something fishy.

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  12. Nash has never been good about remembering specific dates.

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  13. I thought the Orndorff-Vader fight happened in 93, when both were on the active roster. That would put Nash with them, I believe.

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  14. "Someone asks him how he feels about not having a single match in WCW
    rated higher than ** by Dave Meltzer and Nash completely no-sells the
    question and says how he just got a dividend check for $177,000 for the
    money he saved. He then says that his portfolio is *****."

    CHECK AND MATE.

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  15. CruelConnectionNumber2June 27, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    The Orndorff/Vader fight was fall 1995 and led to Vader's abrupt dismissal from WCW (and replacement at War Games by Luger).

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  16. CruelConnectionNumber2June 27, 2014 at 9:25 AM

    Yeah, but he said he was there to see it, which means he's just flat out lying or was hanging out backstage as WWF Champion at a time when company memos were flying around saying people would be fired if they talked about the other company. I found it interesting.

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  17. CruelConnectionNumber2June 27, 2014 at 9:26 AM

    "He then tells a story of how he and X Pac went to a pet store and bought 20 frogs. Waltman then stuck the frogs in Cornette's jacket and took it outside where he smashed it against the wall repeatedly then brought it back inside and hung it up as if nothing happened. Nash then jokes that was his seventh move, referencing Cornette's comments about Nash having only six wrestling moves." AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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  18. CruelConnectionNumber2June 27, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    He puts Dusty Rhodes in the (dick) bag because he took a "7-foot guy who gets pussy and put him in a green cone," referencing his Oz character. This is the funniest review ever.

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  19. CruelConnectionNumber2June 27, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Your review is epic.

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  20. I see his point about the money, but I'm never, ever going to tune into wrestling to watch the guy who has perfected his craft of making money.

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  21. So he's the toughest, smartest, ladies man of all time who openly brags about having shitty matches and getting paid. Why would anyone give a shit about this 90's reject again?

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  22. I always liked Nash's "You think I'm lazy? That's cool. I am. And rich. So fuck you" attitude.

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  23. MikeyMike, King of ClevelandJune 27, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    Nash sees more comfortable with his position in the business than anyone else. Dude si rich as fuck and doesn't give a shit what people think about him.

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  24. Great review again.

    Am I the only one loling picturing a high as shit X-PAC leaving a pet store giggling and carrying 20 frogs?

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  25. So Kevin Nash was backstage at a WCW show in 1995 when Paul Orndorff beat up Vader huh?


    Stopped reading right there, more typical Nashian bullshit followed i presume?

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  26. Visiting? He lived in Florida. But yeah, that didn't add up either.

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  27. I would imagine that wrestling wives, much like other celebrity wives, know that their husbands are fucking around on them. But some will tolerate it as long as their husband doesn't father any bastard children, bring home diseases, or let it go public and humiliate them.

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  28. If Bret Hart did a shoot and had that many questions criticizing him he'd have a meltdown.

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  29. I can see how with the endless travel, repetitive lifestyle and constant use of drugs and alcohol that someone could hear a story and eventually think they were there.

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  30. Love the timelines.


    93,94,95 are all awesome

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  31. Stranger in the AlpsJune 27, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    You beat me to it. No way Nash saw that fight. He heard about it, and tripped out on Somas and travelled out of body through time to see it. Other than that, you KNOW Nash banged those rats. The wife hung around because of the money.

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  32. Wasn't that Bret Hart's biggest vice?

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  33. I used to enjoy these shoot reviews, but now that I realize you are taking info from Sean Oliver and posting it to a for profit wrestling site, I can no longer support it.

    Seriously though, good job, Bayless.

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  34. Hey ladies you want to go back to my place and have some fun so I don't have to job in this main event? Also my stock portfolio is rated 5 stars by Dave Meltzer and Dave Scherer complains that I stole these pick up moves from him. #malwarefrompwinsider

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  35. He fucked a lot of women with tears in his eye.

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  36. "And my regular Boston rat stood there with tears (and jizz) in her eye, and said that I was the biggest load that had ever graced her face, and that I was soon destined for greatness..."

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  37. His biggest bragging topic, you mean?

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  38. After reading his book, I realized that his previous desire to take the moral high ground made him look like the biggest fucking hypocrite.

    There's a reason that the "Sunny Days" comment pissed him off, and it wasn't because his wife and kids were watching. Its because his wholesome, white bread buckshot was getting exposed.

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  39. Nash is a wine "enthusiast"? For some reason that made me LOL! It seemed left fielded that it came up and at the same time somehow it is perfect for Nash.

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  40. Bret is an interesting cat. Julie came off as being unstable and childish in his book, but then again, her husband is gone for weeks at a time, she's left to take care of all of the kids by herself, and he's fucking everything moving. I mean, was he expecting a hero's welcome every time he called home or went home?

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  41. Would have figured Nash for a Republican

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  42. Also, he looks better physically in his 50's than 99% of people do in their 20's and 30's. he sure seems to work out quite a bit for someone who's "lazy"

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  43. "I worked with hundreds of women on the road over the years, and I never accidentally impregnated any of them. All the girls used to tell me I was the safest guy they ever worked with."

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  44. I remember that he never denied it in the book. He said how upset the comment made him, but he never said it wasn't true.

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  45. Nash's comeback to everything is to make a comment about how much money he has.

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  46. I noticed that. he never confirmed it either. So I guess we'll assume it was true?

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  47. And he'll win the argument every time.

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  48. Nash has always come off to me as one of those guys who acts like the criticism doesn't bother him, but makes sure to tell you every chance he gets that it doesn't bother him.


    It's like he's trying so hard to act like he doesn't care, but deep down it kills him that the "smarts" badmouth him but love all the guys who don't stand out in airports and have less money than him.

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  49. "He then tells a story of how he and X Pac went to a pet store and bought 20 frogs. Waltman then stuck the frogs in Cornette's jacket and took it outside where he smashed it against the wall repeatedly then brought it back inside and hung it up as if nothing happened."



    More proof that drugged-up professional wrestlers are complete sociopaths. I'm surprised he didn't shit in the bag, too.

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  50. Sounds almost exactly like most people here when they claim that NPP making fun of them doesn't bother them... then they spend the next 200 posts talking about them.

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  51. Exactly. Would you rather be in Nash's position or Flair's? I suppose if you WANT to have to work when you're eligible for the senior discount at Denny's...you'd rather be Flair.

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  52. The way he acts - he could be either a lost conservative or a lost liberal. He is a sinner that feels like he is entitled to sin.

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  53. Was it true that Shawn and Tammy had an affair?

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  54. http://www.quickmeme.com/img/bd/bd3a5d38cbbb5ef5c39c15c63810fb8970bedddf2122976517b75fb9725a7a2f.jpg

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  55. They are all good.

    The Luger one started out slow but good really good as it went along

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  56. I'm so torn on Nash ... he just oozed charisma and really could be one of the best big men in wrestling, and could work both face and heel. But he was just so goddamn lazy, and its clear especially in his time in WCW that while revolutionizing the business he was also more interested in getting drunk backstage than performing.


    Nash's biggest legacy will be getting fellow wrestlers paid guaranteed contracts. People called them selfish, said it caused problems ... but lets be real, the whole thing Vince talked about having "an opportunity" left these guys at the complete mercy of the promoter. The horror stories you hear about what these guys had to go through getting paid nothing and told it was "paying dues." In the end, it is better for these guys that they all get deals and Nash is one of the first guys to make that happen.

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  57. Yep, if it wasn't true Bret would have made sure to call Shawn a jerk AND a liar.

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  58. thing is, they probably made around the same amount of money in their careers. Nash just wasn't a moron about it, and actually saved and invested.

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  59. Oh any reasonable person would rather be in Nash's position, but he goes out of his way to tell people how much money he made last month to try to impress people or to win arguments that have nothing to do with money.

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  60. Oh I bet Flair made much more than Nash. But Nash is smart with his money and we all know how Flair is.

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  61. Wrestling is 100% about money. He just uses it to shut up the star ratings fanatics.

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  62. To Meltzer and a certain segment of fans, the star ratings are the thing. I seriously doubt someone like Nash gave a shit about snowflakes. He said it in the shoot - he wanted to have fun with his buddies and make some coin. And he did.


    Fans who want to see a 5-star match go back and forth may not like it, but it's certainly a legit defense on Nash's part.

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  63. He's a pretty funny dude.

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  64. you heard about 92 is gonna be Bret right?

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  65. He seems to be asked if it bothers him a lot, though. So he has to answer the question a lot.

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  66. Did they shoot that yet? Looking forward to it

    My favorite Timeline has always been Cornette's 97 WWF Timeline. The Nash WWF 95 probably second. Kid's 94 WWF was great as well

    Kind of annoying that Ivory, Rikishi and Val Venus were used for the 3 biggest years in WWF

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  67. They split up around like 2000 if I remember right, happily married now.

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  68. On the KC facebook they had the photo op with Sean and Bret, so im sure its in the pipeline.

    Im sure they might revisit those years because those were done when they were just starting and probably couldnt secure anyone worth of note.

    They got Finley for 06 smackdown side like anyone would give a shit about Smackdown in 2006.

    Booker and Batista had a fight?! WOW
    Rey title reign was badly booked!?! OMG

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  69. I don't get the criticism the Clique gets. Well, not all of it. They were some of the top stars in the company but any time they work together or win a match it's some controversy.


    As for Nash's WCW days, he didn't hog the spotlight of the title the way people act like he did. Again, basically any time the guy won a match people act like he shouldn't have.

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  70. He lost me when he tried to explain that her anger was due to jealousy of how famous he was becoming. As if him living on the road and sleeping with other women had nothing to do with it.

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  71. Shawn and Tammy were dating for a while there.

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  72. In Wrestling with Shadows he makes a point to specify that she was just a friend, which sounded out of place, as nobody was suggesting otherwise. I just find it hard to believe two people who liked to get around didn't get to each other.

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  73. Yea I never watched that for exactly the reason you stated. Could they have found a more un-interesting year with a more un-interesting brand?

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  74. Because he lived out everyone's dream?

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  75. Well he was 100% in character during that. He even said how much the Canada/USA thing hurt and demoralized him, but in his book, he said it was the most fun he's ever had.

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  76. Kevin Nash is my spirit animal.

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  77. You don't like politics talk?

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  78. Put your face in dudes crotches every night while wearing spandex and being whacked on pills?

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  79. See I always thought the Vader fight was in 93 not 95

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  80. Speaking as a Christian, I'm honestly hard-pressed as to find a connection between what parallax stated and what you did. It's a bit afield.


    Remember, Paul spoke as the Romans did to win over the Romans and spoke as the Jews did to win over the Jews. =)

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  81. But after doing some research its 95 so im wrong.


    Just seems weird as shit, unless Nash was fed the info second hand which aint unlikely

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  82. Yeah, I actually think he's fairly honest (for a wrestler), but no way was he at that fight. I chalk it up to him being old and using drugs and hearing the story a zillion times so now he thinks he saw it.

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  83. Yet, we watch people shoving other dude's crotches into their face while wearing spandex and call it "entertainment."

    I would guess that as wrestling fans, that makes us worse than the performers. We don't have a financial stake in the game.

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  84. Yeah, I just assumed Nash was talking about what he heard. I don't see the big deal.

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  85. That's his way of saying he was in the business to make money and doesn't care how great the match was.

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  86. CHRIST he wouldn't quit with that

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  87. If I'm starting a promotion today and need to put together a team to run it for me, I doubt I would do better than choosing HHH, HBK, Hall, Nash, and X-Pac.

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  88. If other wrestling fans want to applaud a guy who says he didn't care if anyone liked his matches because he already had their money thats their prerogative. I myself personally as a fan of wrestling say fuck that guy.

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  89. But how did he win over the Kaneinites?

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  90. My problem with Nash is every match he had in wcw sucked and his bullshit helped put them put of business.

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  91. It's coming out the beginning of August

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  92. As a lost person - I totally understand that skeptism. I was a skeptic prior to being saved my our Lord Jesus Christ.

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  93. Me too! I can't wait until CM Punk rises again!

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  94. Give me one Nash match thats good after may of 1996?

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  95. 7.0
    A couple years ago probably a 10 though

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  96. There is a legit Jesus freak that some times posts here. Can't remember if that is actually him though.

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  97. Booker T, Goldberg, Giant.

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  98. LOL c'mon dude are you trolling me here?

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  99. "Vanilla midgets"

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  100. The workrate crowd and the "it's all about the $$$" crew need to chill out and accept that the other exists and is valid. It's like movies (I gotta be the first guy to make this analogy!!!). Nash is Michael Bay, he doesn't give a fuck if he wins an Oscar. It wouldn't surprise me if guys like Flair, Bret, or even Shawn would rather be broke and reverered than have money but be a punchline. And I don't think that's crazy. Respect and adulation will carry your name for decades after you're dead. That's more important than $$$ for some people.

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  101. Maybe he thought wrestling was real too?

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  102. Lord, you come off as a bitter crybaby.

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  103. What? I just gave you a 4 star match involving Nash that happened after May of 96. Do you want another one?

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  104. WWE is really missing an opportunity not doing their own timeline DVD series; only instead of focusing on 1 guy, they could do a whole 3-disc retrospective of the year. Or the year in each Fed even (WWE 1995; WCW 1995, etc.). Talk about all the hot feuds for the year, insider stuff, and feature great matches that don't otherwise fit on a standard "Wrestler X" DVD.

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  105. That match is possibly the worst war games ever. You aren't being serious, I can tell.

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  106. You asked for good matches.

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  107. Not even close to being the worst. 93, 94, 95, 97, 98 are all worse.

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  108. I still can't believe WWE hasn't nicked the timeline idea for the Network.

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  109. If you give me your IP address I will figure out your location and do a Google map for you. No need for you too be lost.

    And we have something in common as Jesus saved me also. He saved me having to cut my own lawn every other week. That looks like A LOT of work!

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  110. I'm torn on Nash as well. On one hand, yes, the object is to make money and get out with your health intact. On the other hand, there SHOULD be some obligation to go out there and try to do the best you can for the people that paid their money to see you. That story about Hogan telling him to take it easy because they already had everyone's money is pretty disgusting.

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  111. I've heard him deny it in interviews and stuff, but a book might be different since if he said it wasn't true and it was it'd be liable. Not that anyone's likely to sue him for lying over someone he may or may not have screwed on the road, but I notice sometimes in books people who have told a story over and over for years are careful how they tell it in writing.

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  112. Tapping asses and classic matches.

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  113. I don't know, people pay to see them wrestle, they're not being promised insane bumps or crazy spots. And I've actually seen matches where guys did almost nothing and had the fans biting on everything. I think if you're taking it easy and the fans are buying it, stick with it, but if they're not you probably owe it to them to kick it up a bit.

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  114. See I'd agree with you but its still gonna have that wwe sanitation to it.

    KC does a great job with the timelines and for the most part good cjoices to represent that year.

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  115. Flair is broke.


    Early Shawn was probably like that, but when he came back with a wife and kids that really seemed to be more of a priority to him than wrestling.

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  116. He got out of wrestling set for life, he's healthy, seems to have a good marriage and good relationship with his son...why would he care if a pretend fight he had 15 years ago was considered good?

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  117. TM CooltrainerBretJune 27, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    Bayless, do the shoot review on Sammartino next, or I'll tell Scherer's internet attorneys where you liv-*shot*

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  118. Yeah, Flair's broke. And I wouldn't be surprised if you offered him all his $$$ back, but his career erased, he'd say no.

    As for Shawn, maybe. Maybe not. But he was definitely that type of guy for a *long* time. I'm not sure you turn that off so easily.

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  119. Or Hulk Hogan claiming he's over his ex-wife and he never thinks about her and then proceeds to spend 30 minutes bitching about her.

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  120. Because he won life, and people like winners.

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  121. Speaking about hellfire and brimstone?

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  122. Fidelity isn't a trait that all people value, it's possible they were in an open relationship.

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  123. What role would you give each one?

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  124. Wow, good question. HHH obviously in the Vince role. Hall and Nash in creative/coming up with finishes, basically combine them into Patterson. X-Pac as an agent/trainer. And HBK as my utility guy.

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  125. YankeesHoganTripleHFanJune 27, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    If I had to pick any wrestler to hang out with it would have to be Nash. 1. You KNOW you are going to have a blast with him and 2. You can be pretty sure that he will be able to take care of you and get you home safe at the end of the night, (lord knows he did it enough times for Shawn, Hall and Kid.)

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  126. I might disagree with his attitude, but I can respect him for making it work damned well, at least as far as how he's doing now.


    He's not a Hogan/Flair: Made tons, spent even more, still desperate for the next paycheck, with "ruined" families.
    He's not a Guerrero/Hennig: Dead from drug use.
    He's not a Roberts/Hall: Damn near dead from drug use, and probably not set financially.
    He's not an ECW alum: Made a little bank, still working somewhere.


    And yes, he does bear some responsibility for the death of WCW. Maybe not a lot, definitely less than several others, but it's > 1%.And for the good he did, he is responsible for at least an equal amount of bad.

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  127. "Wrestling is 100% about money."

    I disagree. it might be 100% about the money for the promoters, workers etc. (and even that might be debatable).

    but obviously not for all of the fans.

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  128. YankeesHoganTripleHFanJune 27, 2014 at 2:43 PM

    Actually I'd heard that money wise Hall is in good shape.

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  129. So I guess you didn't watch WCW when the nWo was around?

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  130. Many a tear would be in both his eyes.

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  131. It's plausible. I remember Jericho mentioning visiting the WWF locker room at Canadian Stampede in his book, and that was during the Monday Night Wars.

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  132. I liked 94 despite it's lack of blood. They had just the right kinda guys for such a match.

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  133. People went nuts for the nWo for a long time; if the match quality wasn't up to snuff, it certainly didn't hurt their popularity.



    At the end of the day, it's about the crowd giving a shit and getting their money's worth. Does it really matter if it comes via a 5-star or 1-star match? Hogan/Andre isn't a great match yet it's still arguably the biggest in wrestling history.

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  134. I liked 94 too, just saying it isn't better than 96.

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  135. Hunter Hell in a Cell

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  136. 3. He's more than adept at video games

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  137. You'd give Triple H executive control over the artistic direction of the company? Are you talking for ensuring financial success or do you agree with his aesthetic choices?

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  138. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:00 PM

    "Now we have some F, Marry, Kill with Stephanie McMahon, Ryan Shamrock, Nitro Girl Whisper. He said he would marry Steph because she is a good mom then kill the other two, because they are with his friends and wouldnt want to fuck them."


    I know Whisper is married to Shawn, but who is Alicia with?

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  139. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:01 PM

    I have hung out with Nash, and it is a blast. If I had to pick one guy it'd be Sandman though.

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  140. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:21 PM

    Is it really that untrue though? I always found Benoit and Malenko pretty vanilla, and Eddie never did anything for me until the whole "Lie, Cheat, Steal" character.

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  141. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:22 PM

    That is pretty fucked up. And frogs are cool as hell.

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  142. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    I always figured him as a guy that never gave the tiniest fuck about politics.


    Taken out of context that could be considered one of the dumbest things ever said by anyone ever.

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  143. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    It's him.

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  144. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:27 PM

    Goldberg is a big wine freak too.

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  145. Me saying I thought he would be a republican could be considered one of the dumbest things ever said? WTF?

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  146. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    I thought she was just fucking him for drugs behind Candido's back.

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  147. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:32 PM

    Fuck, I didn't even think of that, but you're totally right.

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  148. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:33 PM

    Because he's fucking hilarious.

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  149. I don't think it's untrue at all. But it upsets the nerds.

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  150. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    No, what I said. "Kevin Nash doesn't care about politics? What the FUCK are YOU on, man!"

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  151. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:37 PM

    Benoit and Malenko had the better matches, clearly. But if I knew they were going to be on Raw Monday (if Benoit was still alive, obviously) I could give a shit less. If I know Nash will be on? I'll at least DVR it.

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  152. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:41 PM

    And it's a pretty fucking good comeback.

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  153. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    Oh hell yes Flair made more money, Nash was a top guy for like 4 years, Flair was a solid main event guy for 20+. Of course, Nash doesn't have 4 ex-wives, that killed Flair as much if not more as all his partying and Nic Cage money-blowing ways.

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  154. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:49 PM

    It was at Fall Brawl 1995, or right around that time. Definitely 1995 though, because I read about it in PWI, and I wasn't watching in 1993.

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  155. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    That's like saying I'm not good with insisting on using the word "fuck" in every post.

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  156. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    Really? Good for him, she's pretty hot.

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  157. Yeah, Nash is Nash, but he's one of wrestling's biggest personalities all the same. He gave us the "all-shoot Thunder" and that's enough for me to push him into "good" territory.

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  158. I'm pretty sure most wrestlers from the 80s and 90s would have eventually landed in prison had they not become wrestlers.

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  159. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2014 at 9:12 PM

    WWE would be FAR more entertaining if they had Big Kev and JBL doing commentary, only just let them wing it. Those two together, left to their own devices, would make any match entertaining.

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  160. Mine is Lorenzo Lamas.

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  161. It's great. That and the 97 one with Cornette are must watches if you're into this stuff. With the right people, the timelines are the best shoots by far.

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  162. It wouldn't be the same. I have no doubt the WWE would want to shape the narrative.

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  163. Based on the amount of drugs and alcohol Nash has ingested I'm surprised he's still able to form complete sentences.

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  164. What about Nash's position or HBK's?

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  165. Not that I necessarily disagree with you, but wouldn't YOU want to be considered good at what you did? HBK & Austin both got out of the business healthy, with good marriages, and decent money.

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  166. I think if Nash wanted to make truly life-altering money he would start a company that helps manage and invest money for athletes as well as advising them on ways to preserve their wealth. He could start with wrestlers and move to other sports. After all, all you have to say if you're him is: "look at how I'm living and look at Ric Flair bleeding for nickels".

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  167. He couldn't afford to pay for his surgery a year ago so I doubt it.

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