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QOTD #10: Your favorite title change



On the heels of an utterly forgettable Money in the Bank pay-per-view where John Cena claimed his 15th World Title in unspectacular fashion, I ask you:

Today’s Question: What was your favorite all-time World Title change in North American history?

Answers tomorrow. If you want to skip yesterday’s Money in the Bank discussion then please click on comments or scroll right to the end.


Kyle Fitta: I'm expecting it to be the best PPV ever on June 29th 2014.

Now there’s a man not afraid to lay it all on the line. I recommend you scoot over to your nearest casino and put everything down on red. And black. And 0.

ts14: My prediction? Pain.

What did you say Paper Champion? I’ll beat you like a dog, a dog you fool!

RosAlGhulScoe: I expect that WWE is kind of painted in the corner with the main event and with Brock being the next big challenger. I think the ideal winner to tonight's match would be Bray or Reigns, but it's a waste to give either of them the title just to transition to Brock and I doubt they let Brock end the streak just to lose his follow up match. I'm assuming the year-long story is Brock beating Taker, winning the title and then main eventing next year's Mania. Because of that, the only real solution is putting it on Cena to give the most name value in Brock vs Champ match and also put the title on someone who won't be impacted at all by a short title reign.

Mister_E_SeesTheLineInTheSand: I'd like Cena to win the title just because he can drop it back to Brock without losing any cred. Anyone that wins their first title tonight only to get smoked by Brock in a month will be damaged goods unless they really have a strong and compelling plan in place for them. Plus it would tie in to the earlier Cena/Lesnar match and set up the eventual rubber match. Best choice all around says I.

Dirty_Dave_Delaney: I never thought I'd be going into a WWE pay-per-view hoping that Cena wins the title since I hate the thought of seeing either Kane or Orton win the belt as I've heard many people speculate about. The part that worries me the most from what I've read online is the rumour that WWE want to swerve the fans due to that Summerslam poster being leaked revealing the main event of Lesnar/Cena II. That's just completely retarded on their part because their response to this really should be looking into preventing information from leaking out online as opposed to changing the finish to the main event.

It’s definitely the right direction. It’s always fun to see a new winner anointed, but the time isn’t right. The only issue here is that we’re looking at a good year before we’re in line for any of the new blood, with Brock pencilled in through Mania, and then either Bryan or presumably Reigns as a back-up plan taking the ball from there.

Knuckleberry Pinn: One thing (of many) that sets ppvs of today apart from ppvs of years ago is just how overproduced things are. When things are calculated to a tee, you lose the "Raw" (heh) feeling that often makes a show great. I bet tonight for the MITB and title ladder matches we will see ladders decorate the aisle, ladders plastered on the same HD set that they use for every ppv, and some of the most contrived spots you'll see all year. You'll probably hear Michael Cole say "wait, Sheamus is back up! The 6'5, 260 pounder who has never won a MITB match before makes his way back into the ring!" You'll hear that Justin announcer (and it's telling that I don't know his last name off hand) yell "SSSSJJJJJJJEEAANNN CEEEEEEEEEEEENA!" And you know what, everything being micro-managed will almost guarantee the ppv won't be bad. TLC this past December was the first ppv in ages that I thought wasn't great, and even then it was ok. But, we won't get an over the top pay per view without letting things happen organically. We got MITB 2011 as the last time the company strayed from it's comfort zone in the slightest, and look how great that turned out to be. Sometimes, you just need a boring old survivor series '02 set for a cozy feel, you need to let a ladder leg bend and let the wrestlers figure out how to deal with it, you need cheesy swinging hooks because, dammit, the show is called BACKLASH. So, my expectation is a good ppv, but not a memorable one.

dynamic_dave: I'm expecting a thousand quick camera cuts during the ladder matches, leading to seizures and a more intense dislike of Kevin Dunn.

They couldn’t quite figure out the angle they wanted when Randy Orton’s bare ass was on display. They were cutting all over the place trying to decide what the hell to do – easily one of the highlights of the match for me.

 Witlon: My biggest expectation for the night: Jack Swagger will injure another internet favorite.

Will you accept Randy Orton getting his head split open and eating a Sister Abigail instead?

Curtis Williams: As long as Reigns, Ambrose, and Rollins come out of the PPV strong, everything else is icing on the cake.

They made damn sure to protect all 3; the rocket up the ass continues. I really have no idea how on earth they’re going to fit all 3 into the main event scene, but it’s a good problem to have.

Thanks to everyone who participated. That’s it for today – enjoy the Money In The Bank fall out, and I’ll see you back again tomorrow.

Comments

  1. Hogan vs Savage from WrestleMania V, Rude vs Warrior from WrestleMania V, Vader vs Sting from GAB 1992, Daniel Bryan winning at WM 30, Demolition vs Strike Force at WM 4, too many really.

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  2. Uncrusimatic_Buck_NastyJune 30, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    i'm gonna go with ones i've seen live, so i'll have to say when edge cashed in on taker in '07

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  3. Ultimate Warrior beating Hogan at WMVI, Brock beating Rock at Summerslam, and Benoit winning the belt at WMXX.

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  4. It's a tie for me between Shawn/Brett at WM 12 and Flair/Race at Starrcade '83.

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  5. Always loved the Hart Foundation taking the titles from Demolition at SummerSlam '90. Rick Steiner beating Mike Rotunda for the TV Title at Starrcade '88 was great, too, complete with Steiner running around the ring with the belt.

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  6. Anytime Ric Flair won the belt. Royal Rumble 92' and Starrcade 95' really stick out in my mind. For some reason his last title win in 2000 on Nitro against Jeff Jarrett holds a sentimental place for me.


    Other ones worth mentioning are CM Punk at MitB 2011, and Eddie slaying Brock at No Way Out.

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  7. Jericho beating the Rock and Austin in the same night to become the first undisputed champion.

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  8. The only one I saw live was Austin beating Kane which was awesome.

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  9. Someone didn't read the question.

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  10. I was there as well, the roof almost blew off.

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  11. Austin's first title win because of what followed afterward, Rock winning at Backlash or Bryan winning at WM.

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  12. 1. Punk at MITB '11
    2. everything else

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  13. Flair's 1992 Rumble win. Austin vs HBK. Punk at MITB '11 were all pretty darn good. Benoit's (obviously at the time) was well done as well....but fuck him.

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  14. Shawn vs. Austin is a classic and criminally under rated. Shawn put one of the ballsiest performances ever in wrestling that night .

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  15. I had a favorite for several years (blank) beating HBK and HHH WM XX. However for some reason that doesn't seem like a good one anymore.

    I may be going real short sighted but what the heck Bryan winning at Mania brought back old school mark feelings.

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  16. Warrior squashing Honky Tonk Man for the Intercontinental title.

    Mankind's first WWF World title win over The Rock.

    The Rock over HHH at Backlash 2000.

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  17. Edge cashing in on John Cena after the Elimination Chamber at New Year's Revolution. I was a little disappointed at the #CenaWinsLOL - I was pulling for Kurt to win that match, so double disappointment with his early exit. Then the cash-in happened. It was fucking fantastic.


    A close second was later that year when RVD beat Cena at One Night Stand. I apparently was a huge Edge mark that year.

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  18. Hart beating Perfect for the ic belt at summerslam 91.

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  19. In my opinion, historically it means a lot, but the match itself is average at best. Shawn and Austin have said as much.

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  20. I love the match but both men were limited so I can accept it.

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  21. More than just one person, by the looks of the comments.

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  22. Duh. Finger poke of Doom obviously.

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  23. Royal Rumble 1992 bitches.

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  24. Totally in my Top 5.

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  25. Rumble 92' is getting much love in here.

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  26. It's one of a kind for title changes. Whole Road to Wrestlemania in about two hours.

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  27. We are lucky the match even happened, let alone be as good as it was.

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  28. As good a think as the wellness policy is for guys these days..this match wouldn't have happened.

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  29. It might be the single best "story" match ever with Heenan's commentary. On top of that, there were about five or six legit possible winners. The final five alone was Flair, Sid, Hogan, Savage and Piper. That's some heavy firepower.

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  30. I've always enjoyed the buildup and execution of Rock winning at Survivor Series 98. I really enjoyed how they booked that whole thing and I have always dug this video package:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJDJPVJob54

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  31. MikeyMike, King of ClevelandJune 30, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    Rock beating HHH at Backlash 2000.
    Bryan winning at WrestleMania XXX.

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  32. Jericho beating HHH for the title on Raw in 2000. I don't care if it wasn't official and was reversed that same night.

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  33. Savage winning the title at Wrestlemania IV

    Eddie beating Brock for the title.

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  34. My sentimental favorite is, of course, Mankind's first title win. Such a great episode of Raw with HBK getting his comeuppance from screwing over basically everybody, DX and the Corporation as appropriate window dressing for the match, Tony Schiavone's "butts in the seats" comment on Nitro, and Austin's return to a MASSIVE pop. Fantastic all the way around.

    More recently, Ziggler cashing in on Del Rio was enormous fun even though it didn't really last.

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  35. ah...those crazy days 14 years ago when HHH and Steph were the evil overbearing authority figures....hey..wait

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  36. Garvin over Flair.

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  37. The end of WM20, duh, it was the culmination of almost seven years of "smart fans" pushing for a guy to get the big chance despite having no ability to cut a promo or make himself at all relatable to people at large, and it worked. This would be damn near every single person's comment had the guy not gone on to do what he did.


    Of all time though, Austin at 14, it was obvious to even people like me that were in high school and had no handle on the business side of entertainment, that this was going to change EVERYTHING.

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  38. This is exactly why having good commentary is important.

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  39. Porn Peddlin' Jef VinsonJune 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Sting beating Mike Rotundo for the World TV title.
    Rick Steiner beating Mike Rotundo for the World TV title.
    Lawler beating Hennig for the AWA World Title.
    Ric Flair regaining the NWA World title against Steamboat.

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  40. He was such an idiot for accepting to win the title. Didn't he know he was eventually gonna have to lose it back? What a dummy!! [/Illogical-IWC-Reasoning]

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  41. Porn Peddlin' Jef VinsonJune 30, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    The TV Title was given World title status when Dusty had it.

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  42. Flair beating Vader at Starrcade '93 is a great one. One of the last really great WCW moments before the Hogan entry changed the fabric of the company.

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  43. I'm right there with you on that one. I completely marked out... followed by being completely pissed (inverted markout?) a few minutes later.

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  44. Probably have to go with Bret winning at WMX. As bad as '94 was overall, that title change was huge. I was tired of Yoko as champion, and Bret was my favorite wrestler in the company at the time, so seeing him win the title back was just such a glorious moment.

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  45. Virgil's Gimmick TableJune 30, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    Benoit winning at WMXX. Even after what happened, it's still an amazing moment frozen in time.

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  46. I was 12 when Bret Hart beat Yokozuna at WrestleMania X. I was beyond excited. I called my friend Mark, whom hated wrestling, and yelled "BRET HART WON THE TITLE!!!!!"

    And no, there wasn't a tear in my eye.

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  47. I like how you lump us all in together. Feels cozey.

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  48. Edge had a pretty phenomenal 2006.

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  49. John Cena winning his 15th world title on June 29, 2014.

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  50. I don't think many people agreed with it, I just always found that "IWC Factoid" hilarious. It's a lost classic.

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  51. Sting beating Flair at the Great American Bash.

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  52. No Way Out 2004, then Wrestlemania XX. Pretty much the beginning of the end to my "original" love of wrestling, sadly.

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  53. I can't imagine how blown out Bobby's voice must have been the next day, he's ON FIRE for like 65 straight minutes.

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  54. In no particular order, Mick's win on Raw, Bryan's win at WMXXX, Dolph's cash-in at SmarkMania
    II, Punk winning at MITB '11, HBK's first win at WMXII, Benoit at WMXX.

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  55. The Eddie title win was indeed great. Brock was simply superior than him in every possible way, but Eddie just kept hanging in there... hanging in there.... And finally got an opening and did the impossible.

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  56. Pat Patterson winning the IC tournament in Rio. What a night!

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  57. Same here, my "golden age" of fandom basically starts at Bret and ends at Benoit, which I guess is sort of fitting somehow.

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  58. Did you have front row seats?

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  59. Porn Peddlin' Jef VinsonJune 30, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    Still waiting for that to show up on the network.

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  60. Piper beating the Mountie for the ic title at Royal Rumble 92 and Demolition beating the Colossal Connection at Wrestlemania VI are up there for me.

    Favorite all time might be Luger beating Hogan on Nitro. I hated Hogan so much and was jumping up and down when Luger got him in the torture rack.

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  61. 1908. Frank Gotch beat George Hackenschmidt for the title. Hell of a contest. Still have one of Frank's teeth.

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  62. Too many restholds.

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  63. Benoit's win at WMXX was it for me. I was telling my friends for years that he was great and, while they recognized his ability, most disliked him for his lack of charisma. When he and Eddie celebrated at the end I got something in my eye that made them water a bit. Damn dusty bar I was at.

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  64. Hell no. I was lucky I even got in...nose bleeds. So far up, there's a chance I had altitude sickness and only thought I saw the tournament.

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  65. Virgil beating DiBiase at Summerslam 1991. I still remember Piper screaming his head off and Virgil's victory flip. One of my first feel good moments.

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  66. Take it back old school, and we'll go with Ricky Steamboat winning the NWA world title from Ric Flair at Chi-Town Rumble 89.

    Modern era? CM Punk's win over Cena at MITB.

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  67. Foley beating Rock is the match I could watch forever. That Austin pop sent the roof into space.

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