Following a binge of '90s' stuff that influenced the stuff we watch, listen too, play, and enjoy now, I figured I'd toss the question out to the BOD.
Thus: Name your top 5 'iconic' Wrestling Matches, Movies, Albums, TV shows, and songs. Bonus points for links and explanations.
Top 4 'Iconic' Movies of the 1990s:
1. Pulp Fiction - I recently saw this movie in its entirety for the first time since graduating high school and holy crap its finger prints are everywhere. I mean this flick crowned "I'm gonna go Medieval on your ass!" for crying out loud. Toss in the scene where Travolta and the heroin dealer go through how to use the adrenaline shot has such a ribald energy you're not sure if it's supposed to be funny, sad, or silly, and all the strange and obscure references to American culture, and it's impossible to not at least appreciate this movie for what it did, even if you hated it.
2. Terminator 2 - Here's a movie that by ushering in the age of CGI effects, prevented a movie like Terminator 2 from ever being made again. I mean this flick features a real-life helicopter flying under a highway overpass. It had the first digital wire removal in cinematic history, and was simply masterful at everything it accomplished. I cannot stress enough how cool watching this movie with James Cameron's commentary is.While Titanic was a more popular movie, the groundwork for combing CGI with practical effects was started here, until Starship troopers decided who needs practical effects.
3. Reservoir Dogs - Yes, another Tarintino movie - but it's iconic for different reasons - namely the way it played with time and was only in a few different locations. This movie was so brutal at the time it came out, people literally walked out during the 'ear cutting' scene that I honestly didn't even know was a 'thing' until I saw the movie and realized it was parodied in an Itchy and Scratchy cartoon in The Simpsons.
4. Armageddon - Definitely the most 'iconic' of all the destruction movies that came out in the 90s, with Ben Affleck, Bruce Willis, and a bunch of crazy CGI effects, along with the 'major' debuts of Liv Tyler and Affleck to a mainstream audience. The 'Leaving on a Jet Plane' thing, despite being wildly impossible in real life, was an awesome moment, too.
Top 4 Iconic Wrestling 'things'.
1. Hogan Slams Andre - This moment is so iconic people who don't know a THING about wrestling know who Hulk Hogan is, and likely know what Wrestlemania 3 was, too.
2. Montreal Screwjob - We all know why.
3. Savage / Elizabeth - An angle that typified what pro wrestling could be when executed flawlessly.
4. Stone Cold Steve Austin - Just everything, really, attitude era, stunning Vince, cross-over recognition, made being bald 'cool', you can't go wrong here.
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Armageddon...iconic...LOL.
ReplyDeleteWas thinking the same thing.
ReplyDeleteWell it is. Armageddon gave us Ben Affleck movie star, introduced us Liv Tyler, movie star, did some insane special effects thing, and really got the whole "Destruction Movie Blockbuster" thing off the ground. Considering the fact "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing" is STILL a popular song on the radio, you can't deny the movie's impact.
ReplyDeleteIt might just be that I'm a little older, but if you're going to pick a big action movie for the list I'd say that Independence Day > Armageddon.
ReplyDeleteAnd it didn't have a crappy Aerosmith song in it either, so that's a point right there.
Shawshank Redemption deserves some 90s iconic recognition. I remember seeing it in the theater. I think coming out at the same time Pulp Fiction hurt it some. It still gets quoted and parodied, especially the Morgan Freeman narration.
ReplyDeleteHogan vs. Andre
ReplyDeleteHogan vs. Savage
Hogan vs. Warrior
Hogan vs. Flair
Austin vs. Rock
Austin vs. Hart (for what it helped usher in)
nWo, Austin, Hulkamania, Montreal, WWF buys WCW
ReplyDeleteArmageddon did not give us Ben Affleck movie star, Liv Tyler never really became a movie star, and did not get the destruction movie blockbuster off the ground.
ReplyDeletehe had won an oscar before Armageddon
ReplyDeleteBen Affleck was quite successful already.
ReplyDeleteI'd throw in Se7en and Scream for iconic 90s movies.
ReplyDeleteHe was in Good Will Hunting and Chasing Amy - which are GOOD movies, but weren't like insane smash hit blockbuster movies like Armageddon was.
ReplyDeleteScream's good because it was the first post-modern Horror movie. Se7en
ReplyDeleteI'm not quite sure because it was a super dark and gritty movie, but I
don't really know what came out of that flick other than its huge cult following after release.
Good Will Hunting was an indie movie that made $138 million and won Ben Affleck an Oscar.
ReplyDeleteArmageddon was a summer tentpole that made $200 million. Ben Affleck was more of a star off of Good Will Hunting than Armageddon.
Armageddon is not an iconic 90s movie. As others have said, Independence Day is probably the movie you were thinking of.
If we're going Michael Bay and "iconic" I would say The Rock over Armageddon.
ReplyDeleteI would say the Transformer movies over Armageddon. Armageddon is not an iconic movie. Sorry Meekin.
ReplyDeleteHi movie list was for the 90s, otherwise sure.
ReplyDeleteFair enough. But Armageddon is still a horrible choice.
ReplyDeleteI disagree in that Good Will Hunting was commercially successful, and critically acclaimed.
ReplyDeleteAnd I would still say Independence Day if we`re going to add a summer blockbuster. It made more money, has that scene of the White House being blown up which I would be much more inclined to call iconic than anything in Armageddon, and it gave us Will Smith, movie star (at least insomuch as Armageddon gave us Affleck.
Yes it is.
ReplyDeleteIndependence Day did give us Will Smith movie star. Armageddon did not give us Ben Affleck movie star. Meekin probably cries at the animal crackers scene.
ReplyDeleteMen in Black is more iconic than Armageddon too.
If you're talking big explosive action popcorn flick, Independence Day destroys Armageddon.
ReplyDelete"And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day the world declared in one voice: "We will not go quietly into the night!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!"
Fuck yeah!
Well to be fair Michael Bay's Bad Boys gave us Will Smith, Movie Star :)
ReplyDeleteAnother couple of 'S' movies: Silence Of The Lambs, and The Sixth Sense are both pretty iconic.
ReplyDeleteJust read your 'Watch Dogs' article - shame it sounds so flawed (no shooting from a vehicle????) because it looked to have so much potential.
Ugh. I fucking hate "I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing." There's a lot of Aerosmith songs that I love, but that is probably my least favorite.
ReplyDeleteWhich is why I qualified my statement with the bit in parenthesis.
ReplyDeleteIf we allow that Affleck was made by Armageddon, then we must allow that Smith was made by Independence Day.
It's still really good - I'd check out the 7 great games thing to get some positive feedback
ReplyDeleteForrest Gump and Jurassic Park are also more iconic than Armageddon. As is Home Alone. Others have mentioned Shawshank Redemption. I'd say even Office Space is more iconic than Armageddon.
ReplyDeleteWhat about Titanic?
Liv Tyler was already well known by the point Armageddon came out. She was in a *slightly* popular Aerosmith video by 1994. "Crazy" aka the one with the lesbian overtones with Alicia Silverstone. One of the top videos on MTV in 1994. She was also well known as Steven Tyler's hot daughter.
ReplyDeleteLike others said, Ben Affleck was already famous for Good Will Hunting and an Academy Award winner. But you know, facts suck so Armageddon launched both of their careers!
You're expecting too much from him.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely.
ReplyDeleteArmageddon was just the latest, at the time, flick to cash in on the big space based summer blockbuster which was hot in the 90s. The most memorable thing about it is the song.
All of those movies are obviously better choices.
Saving Private Ryan. Fight Club. Schindler's List. Clueless. Boyz in the Hood.
ReplyDeleteFight Club
ReplyDeleteThe Matrix
Independence Day
Men in Black
Jurassic Park
Forrest Gump
Goodfellas
Silence of the Lambs
Saving Private Ryan
Lion King
Usual Suspects
Fargo
Toy Story
Big Lebowski
Scream
Edward Scissorhands
Starship Troopers
Boyz n the Hood
Menace II Society
Schindler's List
Friday
Titanic
For iconic wrestling moments I`ve got to give it to Undertaker`s defeat of King Kong Bundy at WM11.
ReplyDeleteI like to call it the Armageddon of 90s WWE.
Wayne's World and Austin Powers
ReplyDeleteSince I was 9 at the time...... south park: bigger longer and uncut was as iconic as it got
ReplyDeleteThe Blair Witch Project. American Pie. Something About Mary. Dumb and Dumber. The Truman Show. Ace Ventura.
ReplyDeleteI thought a South Park musical could never work - then I heard 'Blame Canada' and 'Uncle Fucker'.
ReplyDeleteIt was a good movie.
ReplyDeleteToy Story. Mrs. Doubtfire. Apollo 13. True Lies. Speed. Jerry Maguire. Showgirls.
ReplyDeleteTitanic is easily the most iconic movie of the 90's.
ReplyDeleteBraveheart
ReplyDeleteBlair Witch Project
LA Confidential
Seven
Carlito's Way
Eyes Wide Shut
Groundhog Day
Boogie Nights
Being John Malkovich
Dazed and Confused
Leon
American History X
Green Mile
American Beauty
Casino
The Fugitive. Sleepless in Seattle. Space Jam. The Batman movies. The Bodyguard. A League of Their Own. Beauty and the Beast. The Addams Family. JFK. Basic Instinct. Ghost. Pretty Woman. Dances With Wolves. TMNT.
ReplyDelete12 Monkeys
ReplyDeleteTruman Show
Heat
Beauty and the Beast
Tommy Boy. Billy Madison. Happy Gilmore.
ReplyDeleteClueless is the most iconic movie of the 90's. Theres so much nostalgic value in that film for me its almost hard to watch at times (even though I've seen it approximately 1 million times)
ReplyDeleteUnforgiven
ReplyDeleteRushmore
Ed Wood
Out of Sight
Malcolm X
Thelma & Louise
There's Something About Mary
I don't want to close my eyes
ReplyDeleteI don't want to fall asleep
'Cause I'd miss you babe
Puke I dont like that movie at all
Nightmare Before Christmas
ReplyDeleteI remember watching the movie Armageddon with two of my friends, on of their girl friends and her friend from out of town or something. I absolutely thought the movie was shit and my buddy with the gf fell asleep. But I remember looking over at my other friend and seeing that he was 1)crying and 2)holding the other girls hand...all for the ending of that movie. I lost about 75% of all my respect for that dude right then and there.
ReplyDeleteAnd it didn't have Ben Affleck, another point in it's favor.
ReplyDeleteI'd hardly call Liv Tyler a star. Wen was the last time she was even anything?
ReplyDeleteDeep Impact was far better than Armageddon.
Good start with Pulp Fiction so that list ending with the shitfest that is Armageddon (with such crazy CGI that the out-of-control asteroid hurtling through space has perfect Earth gravity and looks like a 60s Star Trek set) is like that one shuttle getting destroyed before they even make it to the asteroid. Totally worth it for Ben Affleck crying over Owen Wilson though ("MWWWAAHHHH!!!" =/)
ReplyDeleteFuck that movie in its brown asteroid dumpster.
Armageddon is an iconic movie in the same way that Blink-182's self-titled album is the best album of all time.
ReplyDeleteYour opinions are stinking, hot garbage for someone who claims to be such a film buff.
holy fucking mother of shit - vh1 is doing an "i love the 2000's"...
ReplyDeleteAffleck was the bomb in Phantoms, yo.
ReplyDeleteThey did I Love The New Millennium already in 2008.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, that was like the good version.
ReplyDelete`The oughts` or GTFO.
ReplyDeletejust saw an ad for it on vh1 classic, and it clearly said "2000's"
ReplyDeleteApplesauce, bitch!
ReplyDeleteWell for 90s song, Alanis Morissette would have... what? Oh, ICONIC.
ReplyDeleteWell, the 00s have been done for five years now.
ReplyDeleteThere's a difference between being in a popular movie and being one of the leads in a massively popular movie.
ReplyDeleteWill Smith was in Six Degrees of Separation and we wouldn't say that made him a super star. Similarly Liv Tyler's claim to fame up to that point was a music video in 1994. Being popular amongst like teenagers who watched MTV and popular amongst film buffs in the case of Ben Affleck is DIFFERENT than being massively popular superstars.
You're saying that Hogan Slamming Andre didn't define his career because he was already super popular in AWA.
but what the hell is there to remember?
ReplyDeleteIconic and Good aren't always the same thing. The Godfather is iconic and spawned so many movies like it, but is generally less entertaining than Goodfellas, for example.
ReplyDeletefriends was definitely iconic for the 90's, as was seinfeld
ReplyDeletetitanic
beavis and butthead
as much as i fucking hate them, nirvana
dre, snoop, tupac, biggie
pantera, black metal
nu-metal and ska (ugh)
who doesn't remember where they were when Undertaker beat King Kong Bundy? It was UT's iconic 90's WM moment.
ReplyDeleteher appearance in dogma, it reminds me that you'd have to say that kevin smith was iconic for the 90's
ReplyDelete9/11?
ReplyDeletegames? grand theft auto and final fantasy
ReplyDeletetouche
ReplyDeletebut my 1st thoughts of the "i love the... " shows drift towards pop culture, but yes 9/11 and bush the 2nd will be there
They both got their roles because they were up and coming pop culture people. Will Smith was popular when he was the Fresh Prince with DJ Jazzy Jeff.
ReplyDeleteNope, you're wrong.
ReplyDeleteBen Affleck was already popular, having starring in Good Will Hunting the previous December. The movie, despite being an indie, made $138 million and won him an Oscar.
Armageddon was more of a Bruce Willis vehicle than anything and had nothing to do with Affleck becoming a star. Good Will Hunting (it's not your fault, how do you like dem Apples, Matt Damon's career) is way more iconic than Armageddon.
This has nothing to do with anything.
ReplyDeleteLiv Tyler was pretty well known for being the girl in the Aerosmith videos and the interesting story of how she found out Steven Tyler was her dad.
ReplyDeleteShe had already appeared in Empire Records, which would become an iconic 90s movie. In fact, it's way more iconic than Armageddon.
Unlike Ben Affleck, who did become a major movie star, Liv Tyler didn't.
Armageddon is not an iconic movie. In fact people have listed, what, 30-40 movies from the 90s that are more iconic than Armageddon.
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