Hey Scott,
1. I think Brodus was doing well reinventing himself as the monster he was originally supposed to be, but clearly the NXT run was a short-term thing where he was going to put over Neville and then disappear. It's too bad, he had potential. Camacho was miscast from the start and should have been Haku Jr. and aligned with the Usos or something.
2. McIntyre will do fine in a second-level promotion like TNA or Europe once the stink of 3MB is washed off him. The writing was on the wall for Bourne a long time ago and clearly he wasn't a good fit, whereas ROH will be. The rest will probably do their indy shots and sign autographs at conventions and stuff.
3. Khali and Otunga are for specific purposes and are probably safe. I'd say Justin Gabriel and Tyson Kidd would have both been dead meat if it hadn't been for Total Divas to save Kidd, and even then he should probably turn his phone off for a while. I bet they're gonna purge the office too. The whole thing is exactly what I was worried was going to happen when the $350 million stock crash happened -- a lot of people losing jobs to make up for the network's shortcomings. And there's probably more coming.
I hope for his sake Santino changed his phone #
ReplyDeleteI feel bad for all these guys. At the very least, they'll have less hectic schedules. I imagine Hawkins is going to be cool never having to leave the NE.
ReplyDeleteWhat specific reason is Otunga still employed?
ReplyDeleteYou down with JTG?
ReplyDeleteMarried to an A-lister.
ReplyDeleteHe's a lawyer, so he negotiated himself and IRON-CLAD CONTRACT
ReplyDeleteOk?
ReplyDeleteI don't understand the question?
ReplyDeleteI don't see how being married to a celebrity is a reason why he wouldn't be cut.
ReplyDeleteThere was no question, grammatical incompetence.
ReplyDeleteHe shows up on E! News and red carpets. Free publicity for the WWE.
ReplyDeleteConnections to Hollywood and the promotional possibilities of such.
ReplyDeleteThat, and he can probably help out in Legal if needed.
Literally zero people have watched Raw because Otunga was on a red carpet.
ReplyDeleteWell, fucking tell Vince that then.
ReplyDeleteI don't get these jokes. Does WWE not have the guts to fire someone in person?
ReplyDeleteThere's WWE Studios. Maybe they'd want to use Jennifer Hudson in a movie someday?
ReplyDeleteLiterally zero people watch Raw for a lot of things they put on TV, and yet, people like Alicia Fox are still employed.
ReplyDeletePLEASE no one trying to explain why McIntyre or Camacho should be employed by the biggest wrestling company in the world
ReplyDeleteVince loves his phone sex.
ReplyDelete"YOU'RE.....*fapfapfapfapfap* FIIIIIRED!" *splooge*
Because... they're wrestlers!
ReplyDeleteYes she's won an oscar. However, I never hear her on the radio and rarely see her in a movie. If they want to use him for something, have him team with the Miz. One was on a horrible reality show and the other was on a horrible reality show.
ReplyDeleteI honest to god couldn't tell you the last time she was in a movie.
ReplyDeleteThreadjack: Warner Brothers are insane.
ReplyDeleteBecause of that huge overlap of wrestling fans and people who like Jennifer Hudson. /sarcasm
ReplyDeleteIn 2006 she won an Oscar. She's in the Cuba Gooding Jr category. C list at best.
ReplyDeleteUmm... don't think Oscars like, expire buddy.
ReplyDeleteThey definitely do.
ReplyDeletebecause Vince loves any connnection to hollywood.
ReplyDeletewhat about their sister Dot?
ReplyDeleteEva Marie is still employed over them.
ReplyDeleteI've watched it more than than any other PPV, I think. I'll probably watch it 10 more times.
ReplyDeleteMan Steamboat/Jericho at WM25 so should have taken place there
ReplyDeleteI spent the weekend in Chicago and capped it off with MITB 2011. One of the greatest live wrestling shows I have ever seen and I was an original ECW Arena guy.
ReplyDeleteEasily. Canadian Stampede is really good, but a bit overrated, I think.
ReplyDeleteNo Way Out 2001 is one of my favorite shows ever. HHH/Austin is kinda forgotten, but awesome, as is Angle/Rock.
ReplyDeleteI'd go No Way Out 2001, MitB, Backlash 2000 as my top 3. Don't really care for Canadian Stampede.
ReplyDeleteExactly, I don't really care about Taka-Sasuke as great as the match was. Don't care for the main event either.
ReplyDeleteAwesome list though, Justin. Every PPV listed is rewatchable many times over and were all great selections. Pretty much given that everyone's top PPVs will have slight variance based on what it meant to them.
ReplyDeleteI think the main event was good, and the heat was insane. It just didn't do for me what it did for a lot of people.
ReplyDeleteI know I'm in the minority on this, but I happened to like WM 2000.
ReplyDeleteI liked it too other than the main event.
ReplyDeleteYep, all high star ratings, but...
ReplyDelete-HHH/Mankind was just a setup for the real blow off at Summerslam
-Sasuke/Taka had the most obvious outcome ever (the guy they had hyped for weeks against a guy they didn't even bother mentioning until the actual match)
-Taker/Vader was a last minute change, as Ahmed was injured, so the outcome was obvious
-The 10 man tag ended with a distraction/roll up win, and the real blow off was at Summerslam.
So basically, a total throwaway PPV, that just happened to have very solid matches and a memorable crowd.
There was more to it than that. The Hart Foundation introduction and Stone Cold being led away in handcuffs flicking off the crowd are both among the most memorable moments in WWE history. Not bad for a "throwaway" PPV.
ReplyDeleteIt was a great and exciting PPV. The Ladder Match was fantastic. Angle vs Jericho vs Benoit is highly underrated, even by Chris jericho in his book. I didn't totally hate the main event. You're not the only one who would give the PPV a thumbs up.
ReplyDeleteOh for sure. I just certainly wouldn't put it as #2 of all time, maybe #7 or #8.
ReplyDelete^^ no kidding. What years did you goto the ECW shows?
ReplyDeleteTrishes rack was at her most epic at that show. So it's A-OK in my book
ReplyDeleteBacklash 2000 or GTFO.
ReplyDeleteI liked it too. I understand the complaints since half the card was filler/awful (I thought the Hardcore Battle Royal thing was a fun one-time idea that they ended up going way too long with), but the good was really good. This was when we were excited to see E+C/Hardyz and the Angle/Benoit/Jericho triumvirate of awesome. And it took balls to give the heel the main event win that I was shocked, which was negated a few weeks later, but still.
ReplyDeleteI consider everything outside of Wrestlemania to be a "secondary" or lower PPV.
ReplyDeleteBacklash 2000 or GTFO.
ReplyDeleteGod damn, other than beware of Dog, this list is killer.
ReplyDelete99-00. I was a diehard viewer from 95-00.
ReplyDeleteGood list, I would have ranked Fully Loaded 2000 much higher. Nothing but love for Camel Clutch, good read.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't a bad PPV, but it was just underwhelming for a Wrestlemania. Also, since WWE put out so many amazing PPVs in the first eight months of 2000, WM16 stood out since it was simply 'okay' rather than outstanding.
ReplyDeletethanks man, always appreciate the reading.
ReplyDeleteThanks for taking time, man. CCB's a good place.
ReplyDeleteMuch appreciated
ReplyDeleteI'm of the Bill Simmons school of thought: the 'big four' are Mania, Rumble, Summerslam, and Money In The Bank.
ReplyDeletethis. I started from #1 and while reading once or twice thought "[insert ppv name here] should be on this list, too" .... and everyone I thought of made the list.
ReplyDelete(you can always argue about the order, but if I'd do a top 25 list, it would consist of at least 3/4 of this list)
it obviously suffers from Backlash one month later not only being amazing but also having much more of a "WrestleMania-feel" (especially the main event).
ReplyDeletemany would argue that the matches were more than just "solid".
ReplyDeleteI think Angle vs. The Rock is the forgotten gem of that show, Triple H vs. Austin is considered a ***** by many and therefore mentioned more often.
ReplyDeleteIt sucked, not because of the match quality, but there was not a single single match and that is IMO a big no go for a wrestlemania. Only a women match which nobody cares about. Backlash was way way way way better. And haven't even complained about HHH as heel winning the main match, which is another reason.
ReplyDeleteTake the Backlash 2000 with the tag team table match and maybe 1-2 matches more and you get a Wrestlemania which would be even better than WMX7.
A little off topic, but I rewatched the Canadian Stampeed 10-Man the other night, and the one thing that stood out to me was the face off between Pillman and Shamrock before the match. Those two "loose cannons" jaw-jacking made me think about what an awesome program they could have had.
ReplyDeleteCan you imagine the tension a match between them could have created for the company officials?
I like the way you think. Let's be friends...
ReplyDeleteThat battle royal was a ridiculous amount of fun. Nothing I would jump on the network to watch today, but still a lot of fun. And the ladder match was freaking awesome.
ReplyDeleteOh, no doubt Backlash was a hell of a lot better; you're not getting an argument from me on that one. I'll concede the point about no singles matches. I hated that even back the fourteen(!) years ago. The top face not walking out with the belt was shocking, but it wasn't the worst thing in the world, either. Also, it was probably best for business, given what it lead to.
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