Yeah, if only they could have had Hogan come in without as much creative control. But I doubt that was possible. With someone else booking and Hogan playing ball, there were so many great things on the table that first couple years. A more evenly-balanced Hogan-Flair trilogy. Hogan vs. Vader was easy enough to do. Hogan vs. Luger. Hogan vs. Sting as a dream match (even before the nWo).
I felt old when, leaving the Marine Corps in 2007, I had young guys on their way in who were born in 1990. Now there are guys joining the military right now who were like 5 years old when 9/11 happened.
WCW teased "THE ULTIMATE SURPRISE" to trick fans into buying a PPV. Vince sued. WCW was forced to reveal on the pre-show that it wasn't Warrior and was just a guy in a singlet who maybe looked like him just a little.
Knowing that my girlfriend's son and my sister's 3 kids know nothing of a pre-9/11 world is kinda freaky at times. They've never lived in a time where you could, say, hang out at the airport for the fuck of it or to watch the planes take off.
When I hear Nirvana or Metallica on 'Classic Rock' stations. It seems like yesterday that "grunge" was the against-the-grain rebellious stuff your parents called "noise". Metal was not mainstream in the least. Now you can hear these bands in the same way I used to hear the "oldies"
Nitro (and Bischoff's demands for better workrate based on Raw's surging ratings in summer 1995 and workrate matches bringing in ratings) killed Renegade off. As did booking committee changes at the same time. DDP/Mero were immediately pencilled in and the Renegade experiment was turfed.
If you watch the Hogan promos leading up to Uncensored, it's ridiculous how much he makes it sound like he's bringing in Warrior to watch his back (he dropped the phrase "Ultimate Surprise" more than once). It's ridiculous by even pro wrestling carny standards and WCW's bait-and-switch standards.
I was supposed to GO to WTC that day and by the time I got to work the first tower got hit. I remember going over the Driscoll Bridge and seeing the Manhattan skyline that morning. It was an unusually clear day and you could see it in the distance.
There's an episode of Nitro (I think right after the nWo forms) where Sullivan destroys Renegade and Jimmy Hart wipes his face paint off and is like "Hahahaha, you're just some guy named Rick!" That puts the nail in his career.
It's incredible that in a day and age when anyone can parody a song and upload to YouTube, the guy who taught a generation how to parody a song comes back and kicks ass.
Yeah WCW dropped the ball with The Renegade. They should have brought in The Instant Warrior. Dude was badass, I could never beat him in the arcade game.
I'm sorry but he is right. You have posted some perfectly acceptable questions but it does come off as "High and Mighty" to post your answers where no one can respond to you. If you want to respond to people you should do it in the comments section or not at all... or you could continue to look like a bit of an asshole, your choice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1KmIxx-P3qw#t=547 Here it is. It's actually from Nov. 6, 1995, so his whole push came to a quick end once he lost the TV title.
How about kids that see Ice Cube as a child actor and not the gangster rapper? Or my personal favorite, when a new artist does a remake of a song you grew up on and the kids think THEY are the original artist.
First comedy album in 50 years to hit #1? I figured Seinfeld or Carlin (or maybe even Cheech and Chong, if you want to count them) would have pulled that off.
Depends on how you look at it. Did all his bullshit kill the company in the end? Yes, at least in part. But it also gave us the Monday Night Wars, without which both WCW and the WWF would likely be dead.
The "What got you hooked?" QOTD when 90% of the answers were from 1997 and later. Like seriously, I was in college and graduated when some of you got hooked.
My 19-year-old babysitter and me realizing that I am literally twice her age. (I'm waiting until she turns 20 in a month or so and I'm no longer double her age -- then I won't feel old any more. Right?). Even worse is when I make some sort of reference and she doesn't understand it. I'm fine with my kids not getting a reference, but her? She's an adult!
I've been saying for years that the Grammy's should be 3 hours of staring at a computer on a cart. "This year's winner for best solo artist. Autotune! This years winner for best female artist.... Autotune!"
First PPV I watched was RR95. Out of all the people on the card, the only one I can think of that's still an active wrestler (assuming Taker is done, and one match a year isn't exactly "active") is Sean Waltman, and he's not doing a full time schedule or anything. And a quarter of them are probably dead.
Oooh -- a recent one happened to me about 6 months ago.
I periodically reread books, and the one I was reading was Stephen King's It. I first read it when I was 11 (the age of the kids in the book) and this past time I read it, I was 38 (the age of the adults).
"There was this time I was in an orgy with 2 hot girls, 3 ugly ones, and an N'Sync cover band. All we had was 2 vials of crack, and a case of 20-year-old Zima. Good times. Good times."
I work in university admissions. Seeing the wee fresh faces all full of hopes and dreams every day makes me feel ancient, as those days have long been buried by cynicism and experience.
When Goldberg was out (I think after he punched the car window?), I remember seeing a guy named Hail on one show. Looked exactly like GBerg, but did sort of a split legged piledriver finish. Only saw him the one time, but the announcers were hyping the shit out of him.
Anyone else remember this, or who he was\what he was supposed to be?
The Rumble happened to fall on my birthday the year I turned 22, and we were having a party over at my friend's place. The last couple birthdays all felt special, like "hooray, 18, I can vote and buy porn! 19! Woo-hoo, last year as a teenager! 20, awesome, new digit in the front! 21, YES! Drink up!" That year I got really depressed when I thought "alright, 22! I'm... in my 20's. Crap."
The most recent thing that made me feel old was a couple months ago when I said the phrase "kids these days" and actually meant it.
Then don't do it. AMAs aren't just about pimping your movie and answering a few questions. It's not a press junket. Bigger stars than him have spent more time and answered more questions while they were doing the rounds promoting something.
I'd be for it...but it shouldn't be a long match. Brutal, intense...not too drawn out. (Then, as Reigns gets more experience and gets stretched out more...this can be revisited in future years for a longer, more epic, encounter.)
Come on, man...why do you think the big stars do it? To pimp their shit. Harrison Ford did it because he wanted to pimp Enders Game. Schwarzenegger did a bigger one for Sabotage because he HAD to engage with fans more since his star has fallen.
They are saying the song is classist, racist and they are bitching about the use of the word "spastic". Some of them are even saying they are "triggered" by the same beat from Blurred Lines being used. It's ridiculous, they just needed something new to bitch about.
I don't think that the current WWE is as bad as the WCW got.
I'm disappointed because I think we all know that the WWE could be better...and they seem either uninterested or incapable of making it better. (Especially when so many of their bad decisions seem motivated by pettiness or things that simply don't matter to their audience.)
He got smacked around a bit by the changing landscape, "Poodle Hat" in 2003 underperformed mightily, and ended up with no singles whatsoever. But then "White & Nerdy" happened and he got his second wind. Or third wind. Or however many winds he's up to.
Very true, I gotta say I got some entertainment out of both the 4chan attack and Dashcon. Oh Dashcon, this is why Tumblrinas should stay behind their computers and never try to do anything in the real world.
Whenever Vince has lost a big, superhero-type moneymaker he usually goes to a worker (i.e. Backlund, Hart, HBK, etc.) but I think with the current roster he'd try to build another superhero type and my guess would be...
Swagger.
He'd try to ride his little hot streak as the All-American face and push him hard. He's blonde, big and strong, has a legitimate amateur background and relatively handsome so he'd have some mainstream appeal.
Say he lost Cena and Reigns, I could absolutely see him roll the dice on a Swagger push and set up a match with him against Brock with their shoot fighting backgrounds being brought to the forefront.
you make it sound like 1997 didn't already have a few very, very hot angles.
fewer people watch WWF instead of WCW - but imo those that did, LOVED the Austin/Hart saga, Undertaker vs. Michaels (and the latter forming his crazy new group) etc.
Yeah I thought he was legitimately very good, just overshadowed by Rey and Juvi. If he was in the WWF division, he would have been easily the best guy, but WCW's was so full of talent that he ended up being used as a mid-level JTTS.
I would argue that most guys that got "big" (= became "draws") didn't get their because of 50/50 booking but because of actually being put over instead of just trading wins.
Exactly. You have guys the fans unexpectedly get behind, guys the company push to no avail, and those rare few that both the company push & fans support. The 50/50 booking keeps everyone--pushed or not--in a big pool. The company feels by pushing everyone, everyone becomes a star. Fans, though, get tired of getting behind guys who get start/stop pushes and trade wins & losses. The lack of differing levels (jobbers/mid-carders/main eventers) ends up giving you a few guys at the top and Everyone Else. The closest we have to jobbers now are comedy acts... or Zack Ryder.
Look at the battle royal for the IC title at Battleground. What, were there like 20 guys in that match?! You shouldn't have 20 guys who are in the hunt for that belt. I'd say maybe 4-8. This is where WCW being dead and TNA being shit hurts WWE. In a way there's too damn many guy (and girls) on the roster. Of course they need them because they have to fill 8 hours of TV each week, but there's no way to craft interesting storylines & feuds for 30-40 people each week. But there's nowhere else for them to go so WWE can cycle through them like in the territory days. So they all simmer in the same pool, and by the time WWE plucks one out to push, the fans are like "... eh."
Look at a guy like Cesaro, who was getting over, they started to push, then deliberately let cool off because they can't figure out what to do with him. He was getting over as a face, but the imaginary face/heel chalkboard needs more marks on the heel side.
I'm not sure what the cure to any of this is. Maybe they could try the brand split again, keep RAW and SmackDown rosters totally separate. Maybe resurrect the WCW brand for SmackDown. Maybe Vince should put in an offer to buy TNA, run it as a totally separate company (oh yeah, USA would love that: Vince owning to product on a competing network). Maybe one quick & easy fix would be to just put a lot of these guys into a robust tag team division. I dunno, just thinking aloud here. Why am I still typing? Why are you still reading? Damn kids get off my lawn!
Oh god, I'll do my best. First off you gotta understand what a good portion of Tumblr is. It's used by people who are radfems who hate white straight males, yell about all the privelage they have and how all men are rapist scumbags. A good amount of them also try to be special snowflakes with self diagnosed mental illnesses, claiming to be new genders (like being a deer, a planet, a squirrel, etc). They also claim to be very easily "triggered" which means the mere mention of certain things make them have panic attacks. Most of the time though it's benign things like men or talking toys in Toy Story movies, eating meat, disagreeing with them about anything. So they go onto say they are triggered and even put up trigger words in posts. I think this gives you a good idea about the inhabitants of Tumblr. I'm on mobile so I'll split this into a few posts....
So 4chan is inhabitated by the opposite of Tumblr, they talk about offensive things, tell offensive jokes and at times target individuals and websites. They have some hackers and people with computer skills over there as well. They are pretty all around tasteless. And they will and have attacked. Most people realize not to poke the bear that is 4chan and if you are targeted, to say nothing and hope for mercy. Well it's still not known who fired the first shots but a feminist from Tumblr started going to 4chan and talking shit to them and saying how horrible they are. Welp, a group of 4chan decided to organize and fight back. The Tumblrinas basically said "bring it on". So on I believe July 4th 4chan invaded Tumblr posting a bunch of gore pictures, hardcore porn and anything else dispicable they could tagged as all the things the Tumblr folks love guaranteeing they would all see this stuff. Afterwards the Tumblr people cried and said they were all triggered and all this even resulted in people committing suicide. There are no actual reports or facts to back the suicide claim up though. Afterwards the Tumblerinas keep saying they aren't beat and daring 4chan to do it again even saying some have called the cops. Now onto Dashcon...
Dashcon was a horrible failure, a group of Tumblr people got together to do a convention for Tumblr users. It was a trainwreck from the word go. They kept saying they had 10,000 or some odd people coming. I don't think they even got a 1000 people. They had a couple of big guests planned. One of them Night Vale got there and the idiots didn't have their money for them. So Night Vale left and didn't do their panel. The people who paid extra for Night Vale, they didn't get their money back but they got an extra hour in the ball pit. The ball pit was the size of a kiddie swimming pool and sad looking. Somebody peed in it too. During the first night they got everybody together and told them they were getting kicked out of the hotel unless they could raise $17000 in an hour and had the balls to ask for donations from these people who had paid to be there as well as from people online. They raise the $17000 and then say they need more. Talking to hotel Managment though they never demanded any such thing. Also they were asking for donations through PayPal which doesn't clear for a few days. It was all very fishy.
They'll wait on the official documentary until after he makes his one WWE appearance/HOF induction. Last chapter is "Finally..." or something akin to that, and then the match selection for that DVD can include more of the classics as well as the WWE match.
If they insisted on including a Hogan match, they should have gone with Superbrawl '98, At Starrcade, Hogan beat Sting like he was a little bitch for twenty minutes before pinning him cleanly with the legdrop.
I know it's apples and oranges but I honestly never hated sting or had a problem with the guy like I do smirky not serious Cena. From my youth til now I somehow see sting as a bigger star. I know it's not true but still.
Jesus, WCW was still pulling crowds of 17,000 at this point? I remember the attendance figures going downhill FAST in '99 and maybe this was too early in the year.
There's a big difference between being asked anything and being asked anything by a bunch of internet wrestling marks (myself included). Harrison Ford used to be a carpenter before he was an actor, how many rabid carpentry fans asked him about that time he hammered that 2 penny nail into that 2x6 on that condo project in 1968? Because those are the kind of questions he'd get. "At a house show in Fresno in 1996, you, as a face, jobbed to HHH. Why? Shouldn't the face go over at a house show? That's what Dave Meltzer says." Followed by a thousand variations of "when are you coming back to wrestle?"
It wasn't the breasts that were the problem, it was the misogyny. Personally I tried to avoid as much of it as possible because that guy is a creep and I was reading enough residual shit about it on social media to not care to actually watch it.
"Speak to me....RENEGAAAAAAAAADES!"
ReplyDeleteYeah, if only they could have had Hogan come in without as much creative control. But I doubt that was possible. With someone else booking and Hogan playing ball, there were so many great things on the table that first couple years. A more evenly-balanced Hogan-Flair trilogy. Hogan vs. Vader was easy enough to do. Hogan vs. Luger. Hogan vs. Sting as a dream match (even before the nWo).
ReplyDeleteGod damn. We can wrap this thread up right here - we have a winner.
ReplyDeleteI felt old when, leaving the Marine Corps in 2007, I had young guys on their way in who were born in 1990. Now there are guys joining the military right now who were like 5 years old when 9/11 happened.
ReplyDeleteWCW teased "THE ULTIMATE SURPRISE" to trick fans into buying a PPV. Vince sued. WCW was forced to reveal on the pre-show that it wasn't Warrior and was just a guy in a singlet who maybe looked like him just a little.
ReplyDeleteKnowing that my girlfriend's son and my sister's 3 kids know nothing of a pre-9/11 world is kinda freaky at times. They've never lived in a time where you could, say, hang out at the airport for the fuck of it or to watch the planes take off.
ReplyDeleteWhen I hear Nirvana or Metallica on 'Classic Rock' stations. It seems like yesterday that "grunge" was the against-the-grain rebellious stuff your parents called "noise". Metal was not mainstream in the least. Now you can hear these bands in the same way I used to hear the "oldies"
ReplyDeleteNitro (and Bischoff's demands for better workrate based on Raw's surging ratings in summer 1995 and workrate matches bringing in ratings) killed Renegade off. As did booking committee changes at the same time. DDP/Mero were immediately pencilled in and the Renegade experiment was turfed.
ReplyDeleteIf you watch the Hogan promos leading up to Uncensored, it's ridiculous how much he makes it sound like he's bringing in Warrior to watch his back (he dropped the phrase "Ultimate Surprise" more than once). It's ridiculous by even pro wrestling carny standards and WCW's bait-and-switch standards.
ReplyDeleteI was supposed to GO to WTC that day and by the time I got to work the first tower got hit.
ReplyDeleteI remember going over the Driscoll Bridge and seeing the Manhattan skyline that morning. It was an unusually clear day and you could see it in the distance.
When I think about how long Cobain, Tupac, Biggie, and even Layne Staley have been gone
ReplyDeleteThere's an episode of Nitro (I think right after the nWo forms) where Sullivan destroys Renegade and Jimmy Hart wipes his face paint off and is like "Hahahaha, you're just some guy named Rick!" That puts the nail in his career.
ReplyDeleteIt's incredible that in a day and age when anyone can parody a song and upload to YouTube, the guy who taught a generation how to parody a song comes back and kicks ass.
ReplyDeleteWrestlemania THIRTY
ReplyDeleteYeah WCW dropped the ball with The Renegade. They should have brought in The Instant Warrior. Dude was badass, I could never beat him in the arcade game.
ReplyDelete1995 Raw matches had workrate?
ReplyDeleteI've been watching all the 95 Raws and so far there are a few good bouts. Few and far between though.
ReplyDeleteThe fashionable gay guy that I work with told me that it might be time to think about Just For Men.
ReplyDeleteWhen students in my class were born during the heyday of the Attitude Era. Yikes I feel old then.
ReplyDeleteYes, again, ditto.
ReplyDeletePaige being a champion WWE... while having been born in 1992.
ReplyDeleteI TOLD YOU THAT IN CONFIDENCE!!!
ReplyDeleteClearly deserving of YES! chants.
ReplyDeleteWith great power comes great responsibility.
ReplyDeleteI don't understand this post at all... like even a little bit.
ReplyDelete3 Words: Lower Back Pain. I mocked many an older guy about this until recent years.
ReplyDeleteThe passage of time.
ReplyDeleteI miss you. You know how hard it is to be a raging sexist all by yourself?
ReplyDeleteI remember someone asking a while back to name a midcard match from before high school that didn't hold up... TBK chose a TNA match from 2011.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry but he is right. You have posted some perfectly acceptable questions but it does come off as "High and Mighty" to post your answers where no one can respond to you. If you want to respond to people you should do it in the comments section or not at all... or you could continue to look like a bit of an asshole, your choice.
ReplyDeleteShit, some of my contemporaries ARE grandparents.
ReplyDeleteand then they make it worse with "The Ultimate Solution". That name didn't ring ANY bells for WCW's suits?
ReplyDeleteI agree. Newark Airport is like Fort Knox now.
ReplyDeleteMy back has been fucked ever since I got into a bad car wreck when I was 18.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Hogan can be controlled. Even now I bet he's angling for some kind of world title run with WWE.
ReplyDeleteWell, neither one has any gold.
ReplyDeleteYES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1KmIxx-P3qw#t=547
ReplyDeleteHere it is. It's actually from Nov. 6, 1995, so his whole push came to a quick end once he lost the TV title.
How about kids that see Ice Cube as a child actor and not the gangster rapper?
ReplyDeleteOr my personal favorite, when a new artist does a remake of a song you grew up on and the kids think THEY are the original artist.
I was gonna put him in the comment and forgot.
ReplyDeleteHOW BOUT IT
ReplyDelete'Bout time he was #1.
ReplyDeleteMy senior year in college, when I made a reference to Bill Cosby, one freshman asked who he was.
ReplyDeletevince just discovered this great version of "another one bites the dust" called "another rides the bus."
ReplyDeletehe'll probably look to have weird al appear on raw 2000 to capitalize on his overnight success
The bullet in the head of his career, so to speak.
ReplyDeleteFirst comedy album in 50 years to hit #1? I figured Seinfeld or Carlin (or maybe even Cheech and Chong, if you want to count them) would have pulled that off.
ReplyDeleteYeah even if he was that delusional Vince and Hunter would just laugh at him if he brought it up.
ReplyDeleteI see what you did there
ReplyDeleteDepends on how you look at it. Did all his bullshit kill the company in the end? Yes, at least in part. But it also gave us the Monday Night Wars, without which both WCW and the WWF would likely be dead.
ReplyDeleteSeeing Arn Anderson having to job to this guy no-selling his entire offense for the TV title was truly sad to watch.
ReplyDeleteFinally!
ReplyDeleteYup, "the ultimate surprise" is pretty much where it went from arguable allusion/implication to outright bait-and-switch.
ReplyDeleteWhy have some 22 year old plus broad hogging up a centerfold when theres really hot 18 to 21 year olds you can have pose nude?
ReplyDeleteThe "What got you hooked?" QOTD when 90% of the answers were from 1997 and later. Like seriously, I was in college and graduated when some of you got hooked.
ReplyDeleteBecause a lot of them are hotter than the 18-21 crowd. Then again, I kind of have a bit of a MILF fetish.
ReplyDeleteMy 19-year-old babysitter and me realizing that I am literally twice her age. (I'm waiting until she turns 20 in a month or so and I'm no longer double her age -- then I won't feel old any more. Right?). Even worse is when I make some sort of reference and she doesn't understand it. I'm fine with my kids not getting a reference, but her? She's an adult!
ReplyDeleteWe need to fire her. Get some 80-year-old granny.
I've been saying for years that the Grammy's should be 3 hours of staring at a computer on a cart. "This year's winner for best solo artist. Autotune! This years winner for best female artist.... Autotune!"
ReplyDeleteFirst PPV I watched was RR95. Out of all the people on the card, the only one I can think of that's still an active wrestler (assuming Taker is done, and one match a year isn't exactly "active") is Sean Waltman, and he's not doing a full time schedule or anything. And a quarter of them are probably dead.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't call a 19 year old and adult.
ReplyDeleteAre you going to do her?
ReplyDeleteI mean, that is how these stories go, right?
ReplyDeleteOooh -- a recent one happened to me about 6 months ago.
ReplyDeleteI periodically reread books, and the one I was reading was Stephen King's It. I first read it when I was 11 (the age of the kids in the book) and this past time I read it, I was 38 (the age of the adults).
An "adult" as in someone you can have an actual conversation with.
ReplyDeleteNope. I'd have to write QOTD to have stories like that.
ReplyDeleteI had mine when Mountain Dew started tasting like hot piss even when it's cold.
ReplyDeleteYou're next in line then. Start warming up.
ReplyDeleteWord Crimes is some amazing shit.
ReplyDeleteI remember when the Bulldogs beat the Dream Team for the WWF tag titles.
ReplyDeletePlus it knocks your balls.
ReplyDelete"There was this time I was in an orgy with 2 hot girls, 3 ugly ones, and an N'Sync cover band. All we had was 2 vials of crack, and a case of 20-year-old Zima. Good times. Good times."
ReplyDeleteIt just kills everything. It's boiling acid.
ReplyDeleteWayyyyyy before my time. Hell, I was probably about 6 when that happened.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that I've actually had a Zima makes me feel old.
ReplyDeleteThe Bulldogs. Now there's a couple of guys that time has been kind to.
ReplyDeleteSHROOMS~!
ReplyDeleteI've always hated the Dew. And I'd rather drink hot piss than Code Red, it will not only taste better but it's probably better for me.
ReplyDeleteNeed some?
ReplyDeleteI am fairly certain that was the first alcoholic beverage that my parents let me taste test. I didn't like it.
ReplyDeleteWine coolers weren't great either.
I work in university admissions. Seeing the wee fresh faces all full of hopes and dreams every day makes me feel ancient, as those days have long been buried by cynicism and experience.
ReplyDeleteI will sound like an awful hypocrite, but whatever...
ReplyDeleteI love Diet Mountain Dew.
I know that it can still destroy you from the inside out but it serves as my morning coffee.
It doesn't taste like hot piss either.
Are you a cop?
ReplyDeleteThat's fantastic! His new album is great. He's also a marketing genius premiering each new video on a different web site for eight days straight.
ReplyDeleteNot only that, he put on a Master's course in how to promote music in 2014.
ReplyDeleteI'm just going to pretend you didn't type that and forget about it.
ReplyDeleteZima was ahead of it's time, those fruity girly drinks were all the rage about 10 years later.
ReplyDeleteYOU ARE A COP.
ReplyDeleteNow that I'm thinking about it -
ReplyDeleteWhen Goldberg was out (I think after he punched the car window?), I remember seeing a guy named Hail on one show. Looked exactly like GBerg, but did sort of a split legged piledriver finish. Only saw him the one time, but the announcers were hyping the shit out of him.
Anyone else remember this, or who he was\what he was supposed to be?
I hate that artificial sweetener crap, it had a horrible aftertaste. But I don't really drink soda anyway.
ReplyDeleteThe Rumble happened to fall on my birthday the year I turned 22, and we were having a party over at my friend's place. The last couple birthdays all felt special, like "hooray, 18, I can vote and buy porn! 19! Woo-hoo, last year as a teenager! 20, awesome, new digit in the front! 21, YES! Drink up!" That year I got really depressed when I thought "alright, 22! I'm... in my 20's. Crap."
ReplyDeleteThe most recent thing that made me feel old was a couple months ago when I said the phrase "kids these days" and actually meant it.
Out of thousands of questions, he only answered like 10 and only one was a Hercules question.
ReplyDeleteOh well. The guy is probably crazy-busy right now, traveling around and doing interviews. He looked exhausted on Fallon last night.
ReplyDeleteI'm wondering if they shied away from most of the "big" matches so you can order the Network to watch them?????
ReplyDeleteCena can make it in Hollywood as long as they will continue to make Expendables movies...
ReplyDeleteThe US title tournament that Sting won in 1991 was never filmed, was it? If you want a Sting vs. Austin match that meant even more...
ReplyDeletePerhaps so they can get their "because WCW" moment in the set, perhaps in the commentary between matches?
ReplyDeleteThen don't do it. AMAs aren't just about pimping your movie and answering a few questions. It's not a press junket. Bigger stars than him have spent more time and answered more questions while they were doing the rounds promoting something.
ReplyDeleteSomeone should ask if he'd face Hulk Hogan in a rematch if he knew that Hulk was with his main squeeze Eve again, and hung and bung on the Titanic?
ReplyDeleteI'd be for it...but it shouldn't be a long match. Brutal, intense...not too drawn out. (Then, as Reigns gets more experience and gets stretched out more...this can be revisited in future years for a longer, more epic, encounter.)
ReplyDeleteWhy, what are they up in arms about now?
ReplyDeleteYou're forgetting how awful WCW got...
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFlTfaQ6x0U
ReplyDeleteCome on, man...why do you think the big stars do it? To pimp their shit. Harrison Ford did it because he wanted to pimp Enders Game. Schwarzenegger did a bigger one for Sabotage because he HAD to engage with fans more since his star has fallen.
ReplyDeleteNo idea. I know they frequently sell out Hamerstein at 2500
ReplyDeleteThe cool thing about Weird Al is that, regardless of when Vince discovers him, he'll still be relevant.
ReplyDeleteI know why they do it but they hang out and actually answer questions. That's the trade off. Funny you bring up Ford, his AMA blew away Rock's.
ReplyDelete"It is just letting us know what was originally scheduled to happen for those who are interested."
ReplyDelete...and it's interesting to see the decisions that are made and try to guess at future decisions by the choices that get made.
O no I remember. But I also know how bad wwe is right now. I guess im the only one who thinks that though
ReplyDeleteThey are saying the song is classist, racist and they are bitching about the use of the word "spastic". Some of them are even saying they are "triggered" by the same beat from Blurred Lines being used. It's ridiculous, they just needed something new to bitch about.
ReplyDeleteI know it's satire but I could honestly see Kanye doing something that stupid.
ReplyDeletei'd never heard blurred lines before, so i checked it out so i'd have a point of reference
ReplyDeletegood lord, it's amazing the shit that passes for music these days, let alone "good" music
I don't think that the current WWE is as bad as the WCW got.
ReplyDeleteI'm disappointed because I think we all know that the WWE could be better...and they seem either uninterested or incapable of making it better. (Especially when so many of their bad decisions seem motivated by pettiness or things that simply don't matter to their audience.)
He's either serious, or a serious troll. Because he ALWAYS answers something with "Hogan should be champ."
ReplyDelete...well, we can all at least agree on Anyone But New York, right?
ReplyDeleteYou seem disproportionately upset about this. Any reason?
ReplyDeleteDo NOT buy it, those things are absolute pieces of shit. Get a used Civic or something.
ReplyDelete"Blurred Lines" is pretty bad...but I totally love that brunette in the uncensored video.
ReplyDeleteThey throw a fuckton of money at CM Punk and beg him to back, and another fuckton at Brock and beg him to at least work the majority of Raws and PPVs.
ReplyDeleteSomehow I bet both would decline Vince's offer.
I'm not upset, just think it's bullshit.
ReplyDeleteIt's Tumblr, what do you expect, they'll get "triggered" by anything
ReplyDeleteHaving your own awesome band helps.
ReplyDeleteShe's pretty hot but the zombie dead eyed look all three sport in that video is creepy.
ReplyDeleteDespite that and the rapetastic vein of the lyrics, that song is a guilty pleasure of mine
I didn't read that link, because I assumed it was real because Kanye is that nuts.
ReplyDeleteHe's adapted quite well, the best ones always know how to keep with the times
ReplyDeleteHe got smacked around a bit by the changing landscape, "Poodle Hat" in 2003 underperformed mightily, and ended up with no singles whatsoever. But then "White & Nerdy" happened and he got his second wind. Or third wind. Or however many winds he's up to.
ReplyDeleteYeah Blurred Lines is pretty horrible as a song all around. Royals is good though and Happy is a decent song.
ReplyDeleteVery true, I gotta say I got some entertainment out of both the 4chan attack and Dashcon. Oh Dashcon, this is why Tumblrinas should stay behind their computers and never try to do anything in the real world.
ReplyDeleteI had no idea that Weird Al still existed since Amish Paradise.
ReplyDeleteI had a VHS compilation of his 80s videos when I was a kid.
Good for him.
Never been a fan but kudos to him.
ReplyDeleteWhenever Vince has lost a big, superhero-type moneymaker he usually goes to a worker (i.e. Backlund, Hart, HBK, etc.) but I think with the current roster he'd try to build another superhero type and my guess would be...
ReplyDeleteSwagger.
He'd try to ride his little hot streak as the All-American face and push him hard. He's blonde, big and strong, has a legitimate amateur background and relatively handsome so he'd have some mainstream appeal.
Say he lost Cena and Reigns, I could absolutely see him roll the dice on a Swagger push and set up a match with him against Brock with their shoot fighting backgrounds being brought to the forefront.
I don't know what the above means. You should probably read your posts and go, "Does that make sense?" before posting.
ReplyDelete... then Swagger gets busted for pot again, and we all have one grand laugh.
ReplyDeleteSandow as DeLuise?
ReplyDeleteWe can only hope.
ReplyDeleteIs the Sting/Vader strap match from SuperBrawl III on any sets already?
ReplyDeleteI'm intrigued by the Sting vs Stan Lane match. Never knew they wrestled.
ReplyDeleteand also, Sting's "essential ppv matches" have mostly been already released on other sets.
ReplyDeleteafaik that's the only ppv match between Sting and Vader that hasn't been on any dvd so far.
ReplyDeletehe did some of his best work post 1996 actually. but i agree it was less known.
ReplyDeleteyou make it sound like 1997 didn't already have a few very, very hot angles.
ReplyDeletefewer people watch WWF instead of WCW - but imo those that did, LOVED the Austin/Hart saga, Undertaker vs. Michaels (and the latter forming his crazy new group) etc.
Yeah I thought he was legitimately very good, just overshadowed by Rey and Juvi. If he was in the WWF division, he would have been easily the best guy, but WCW's was so full of talent that he ended up being used as a mid-level JTTS.
ReplyDeleteI would argue that most guys that got "big" (= became "draws") didn't get their because of 50/50 booking but because of actually being put over instead of just trading wins.
ReplyDeleteI never understood the hype around that video. in the days of internet porn etc., who cares about some naked breasts in a music video?!
ReplyDeleteDidn't he do the intro music for DDP?
ReplyDeleteSo, uh, wasn't JR fired last year? How is he still contracted?
ReplyDeleteNo, he got in trouble for being wasted along with Flair.
ReplyDeleteThe title will just come back to Orton.
ReplyDeleteIt's only fair.
ReplyDeleteYeah, why not?
ReplyDelete:bust out laughing:
ReplyDeleteYes he is!
And he might lose.
ReplyDeleteAs much as I like Kevin Smith, if he still thinks ratings had anything to do with the cartoon being pulled, he's delusional.
ReplyDeleteHe'd probably fit the role well.
ReplyDeleteYes! Put him as the villain there.
ReplyDeleteThis one could actually make money.
ReplyDeleteand not only that, he does all that without resorting to vulgarity and "shock value".
ReplyDeleteBlurred Lines borrows heavily from a Marvin Gaye song.
ReplyDeleteKenta in Jackie Chan's role?
ReplyDeleteKenta as Jackie Chan?
ReplyDeleteExactly. You have guys the fans unexpectedly get behind, guys the company push to no avail, and those rare few that both the company push & fans support. The 50/50 booking keeps everyone--pushed or not--in a big pool. The company feels by pushing everyone, everyone becomes a star. Fans, though, get tired of getting behind guys who get start/stop pushes and trade wins & losses. The lack of differing levels (jobbers/mid-carders/main eventers) ends up giving you a few guys at the top and Everyone Else. The closest we have to jobbers now are comedy acts... or Zack Ryder.
ReplyDeleteLook at the battle royal for the IC title at Battleground. What, were there like 20 guys in that match?! You shouldn't have 20 guys who are in the hunt for that belt. I'd say maybe 4-8. This is where WCW being dead and TNA being shit hurts WWE. In a way there's too damn many guy (and girls) on the roster. Of course they need them because they have to fill 8 hours of TV each week, but there's no way to craft interesting storylines & feuds for 30-40 people each week. But there's nowhere else for them to go so WWE can cycle through them like in the territory days. So they all simmer in the same pool, and by the time WWE plucks one out to push, the fans are like "... eh."
Look at a guy like Cesaro, who was getting over, they started to push, then deliberately let cool off because they can't figure out what to do with him. He was getting over as a face, but the imaginary face/heel chalkboard needs more marks on the heel side.
I'm not sure what the cure to any of this is. Maybe they could try the brand split again, keep RAW and SmackDown rosters totally separate. Maybe resurrect the WCW brand for SmackDown. Maybe Vince should put in an offer to buy TNA, run it as a totally separate company (oh yeah, USA would love that: Vince owning to product on a competing network). Maybe one quick & easy fix would be to just put a lot of these guys into a robust tag team division. I dunno, just thinking aloud here. Why am I still typing? Why are you still reading? Damn kids get off my lawn!
Poodle Hat got screwed because of Eminem nixing the permission for the video. Still has his most genius song, "Bob"
ReplyDeleteCena's kind of an awful actor who doesn't have the presence of the Rock. Seriously, when it comes down to it, Cena is a REALLY generic looking.
ReplyDeleteYeah and getting them all for free by cutting deals with different sites. Back in the day he could only afford to produce 1, maybe two videos.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what any of this means. Explain at once!
ReplyDeleteI remember I made a CAW of Al on No Mercy.
ReplyDeleteOh god, I'll do my best. First off you gotta understand what a good portion of Tumblr is. It's used by people who are radfems who hate white straight males, yell about all the privelage they have and how all men are rapist scumbags. A good amount of them also try to be special snowflakes with self diagnosed mental illnesses, claiming to be new genders (like being a deer, a planet, a squirrel, etc). They also claim to be very easily "triggered" which means the mere mention of certain things make them have panic attacks. Most of the time though it's benign things like men or talking toys in Toy Story movies, eating meat, disagreeing with them about anything. So they go onto say they are triggered and even put up trigger words in posts. I think this gives you a good idea about the inhabitants of Tumblr. I'm on mobile so I'll split this into a few posts....
ReplyDeleteFucking dashcon man.
ReplyDeleteThey threw a convention with no money upfront--so the entertainment didn't show up.
BUT AT LEAST THEY HAD A BALLPIT.
So 4chan is inhabitated by the opposite of Tumblr, they talk about offensive things, tell offensive jokes and at times target individuals and websites. They have some hackers and people with computer skills over there as well. They are pretty all around tasteless. And they will and have attacked. Most people realize not to poke the bear that is 4chan and if you are targeted, to say nothing and hope for mercy. Well it's still not known who fired the first shots but a feminist from Tumblr started going to 4chan and talking shit to them and saying how horrible they are. Welp, a group of 4chan decided to organize and fight back. The Tumblrinas basically said "bring it on". So on I believe July 4th 4chan invaded Tumblr posting a bunch of gore pictures, hardcore porn and anything else dispicable they could tagged as all the things the Tumblr folks love guaranteeing they would all see this stuff. Afterwards the Tumblr people cried and said they were all triggered and all this even resulted in people committing suicide. There are no actual reports or facts to back the suicide claim up though. Afterwards the Tumblerinas keep saying they aren't beat and daring 4chan to do it again even saying some have called the cops. Now onto Dashcon...
ReplyDeleteDashcon was a horrible failure, a group of Tumblr people got together to do a convention for Tumblr users. It was a trainwreck from the word go. They kept saying they had 10,000 or some odd people coming. I don't think they even got a 1000 people. They had a couple of big guests planned. One of them Night Vale got there and the idiots didn't have their money for them. So Night Vale left and didn't do their panel. The people who paid extra for Night Vale, they didn't get their money back but they got an extra hour in the ball pit. The ball pit was the size of a kiddie swimming pool and sad looking. Somebody peed in it too. During the first night they got everybody together and told them they were getting kicked out of the hotel unless they could raise $17000 in an hour and had the balls to ask for donations from these people who had paid to be there as well as from people online. They raise the $17000 and then say they need more. Talking to hotel Managment though they never demanded any such thing. Also they were asking for donations through PayPal which doesn't clear for a few days. It was all very fishy.
ReplyDeleteRandom thought after seeing the second match: Ron Simmons (freaking college football god) would've been a perfect fit for the Varsity Club.
ReplyDeleteThey'll wait on the official documentary until after he makes his one WWE appearance/HOF induction. Last chapter is "Finally..." or something akin to that, and then the match selection for that DVD can include more of the classics as well as the WWE match.
ReplyDeleteIn theory.
If they insisted on including a Hogan match, they should have gone with Superbrawl '98, At Starrcade, Hogan beat Sting like he was a little bitch for twenty minutes before pinning him cleanly with the legdrop.
ReplyDeleteYeah they'll milk Sting for all it's worth. Like they would have done with Warrior before he passed.
ReplyDeleteGood call right there
ReplyDeleteI know it's apples and oranges but I honestly never hated sting or had a problem with the guy like I do smirky not serious Cena. From my youth til now I somehow see sting as a bigger star. I know it's not true but still.
ReplyDeleteI feel dumber for having read this and I weep for humanity.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I agree. They were stacked with cruiserweights. Rey, Juvi, Kidman, Psicosis, Chavo, Eddie, Malenko, Blitzkrieg (for a short time).
ReplyDeleteAnd managed to con several hundred people out of their money!
ReplyDeleteJesus, WCW was still pulling crowds of 17,000 at this point? I remember the attendance figures going downhill FAST in '99 and maybe this was too early in the year.
ReplyDeleteSame here.
ReplyDeleteWord Life!
ReplyDeleteLol@ seeing a guy parade around like an 8 year old.
ReplyDeleteThe process repeats itself .
ReplyDeleteThats a great comparison.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that's what happens now.
ReplyDeleteWtf is a Dutch Mantell match on there for? Zeb's gonna get a bigger royalty check this year than half the roster thanks to that.
ReplyDeleteIt got him over.
ReplyDeleteStill ok.
ReplyDeleteThey are crossing the line.
ReplyDeleteThere's a big difference between being asked anything and being asked anything by a bunch of internet wrestling marks (myself included). Harrison Ford used to be a carpenter before he was an actor, how many rabid carpentry fans asked him about that time he hammered that 2 penny nail into that 2x6 on that condo project in 1968? Because those are the kind of questions he'd get. "At a house show in Fresno in 1996, you, as a face, jobbed to HHH. Why? Shouldn't the face go over at a house show? That's what Dave Meltzer says." Followed by a thousand variations of "when are you coming back to wrestle?"
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't the breasts that were the problem, it was the misogyny. Personally I tried to avoid as much of it as possible because that guy is a creep and I was reading enough residual shit about it on social media to not care to actually watch it.
ReplyDeleteWe The People......need money for mustache wax, apparently.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to Hot Stuff? He vanished off the face of the earth after his WCW run.
ReplyDeleteHe really didn't do anything different that what rappers do. 50 Cent was putting out a video a week and flooding the market as well.
ReplyDeleteThe Ford comparison is terrible, it doesn't make any sense. Ford wasn't a famous carpenter.
ReplyDeletethis is one of the worst postings I have ever read on this blog.
ReplyDeleteit didn't meant what was horrible about it. I meant the (positive) hype about that video (it obviously is/was a popular song - and video as well).
ReplyDeleteDid independents and died in 1995. Heart attack, possibly from painkillers.
ReplyDeleteDoug Gilbert...still alive. WRONG KID DIED!
They would turn Orton face again and ride his junk in an alley behind a trashcan.
ReplyDeleteHe's dead serious or he's a trolll...like kbjone said.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome!
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