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January 19th Edition of RAW Billed to be a "Reunion" Show:

From F4WOnline.com

"In an attempt to boost eyeballs on the go-home show for the Royal Rumble, which takes place on 1/19, WWE will be doing a show called "Raw Reunion."

Announces already as appearing on the show are Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, plus a 30-man Lumberjack match with John Cena vs. Seth Rollins.

An interesting note is that in the release for the show, Brock Lesnar's name was not listed. Previously, Lesnar had been advertised for that date."


Sounds like a good idea to me. What do you guys think?

Comments

  1. Raw Reunion? Sounds like a Kliq Reunion w/Hulk Hogan.

    As for the show itself...that's go-home to the Rumble right? That'd explain the 30 dudes.

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  2. These seem to happen a little too often, but they're usually fun.

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  3. Weird, because the release I saw did in fact have Lesnar advertised.

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  4. Sounds cool. Can't wait for NXT that week.

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  5. It's probably a post-Raw dark match. They don't even know what's going on Raw 3 hours before the show airs these days.

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  6. Basically the Hulk Hogan birthday episode without the balloons and cake

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  7. Soooo.....think Hunter/Vince/Stephanie (The Cerberus of Sportz Entertainment) are getting desperate enough to throw a truckload of cash at HBK to come out of retirement and pop a rating or two?

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  8. Maybe they could boost eyeballs with a strong show that sets the stakes for the Rumble, but sure, Hunter's buddies works too. TELLING STORIES!

    *Cornette Face*

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  9. I'd rather it just be a Kliq reunion. It might be bad, but at least it'd be interesting.

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  10. Or Orndorff's mustache

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  11. Me too - I got an entry on my Facebook feed today that specifically mentioned "WWE World heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar" as appearing at this show.

    It's going to be here in Dallas - maybe I'll go for the hell of it.

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  12. It's been proven HBK doesn't pop ratings.

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  13. Lesnar should f5 all of them to end the show.

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  14. Eh, if you want to boost eyeballs going into the Rumble, try crafting interesting feuds and compelling storylines. It'd be a lot cheaper than flying in & paying a bunch of old-timers.

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  15. Keep digging the retreads out of the mothballs Vince! That will turn it all around!!!

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  16. Oh, a lumberjack match, that'll bring in the viewers.

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  17. We'll I'll be watching for the first time since the Hogan birthday. Damn you WWE

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  18. And who CAN'T see the ending of that lumberjack match from a mile away?

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  19. Someday someone will tell Vince that all this does is make the current product look like shit. I love nostalgia stuff but I doubt 10-15 years anybody is going to be thrilled to see The Uso's and Ryback return to Raw!

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  20. Can we PLEASE see Legends/Hall of Famers who we don't see very often?

    Vader? Sid? Dudleys? Goldberg? Terry Funk? Koloff (either one)? Stan Hansen? One Man Gang? King Kong Bundy? The Mountie? Anybody but the same dozen guys they trot out all the time.

    And if the nWo is appearing, can "The Vigilante" Sting show up and smack them all with a baseball bat?

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  21. They can save it if Goldust and Booker dress like lumberjacks again....

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  22. That lineup almost looks like a 2010 episode of TNA Impact.

    Don't you just love when WWE does the exact same stuff they've repeatedly mocked WCW for doing?

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  23. FEED ME MORE..........................of the Ryback! Me crazy? No, USO CRAZY

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  24. How about just a wrestling show?

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  25. Sexy Flexy Biff KensingtonDecember 17, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    As a fan of the WWE, it makes the Raw seem more important than it otherwise would've been, so it's a solid move at least on that front. As a fan of wrestling in general, it's a band-aid for a situation that requires full-on reconstructive surgery.

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  26. So they are advertising a FREE 30 man match for the week before their PPV/Special Event with 30 men? VERY SMART.

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  27. Wrestling is what Vince's father did, he is in the SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT business. (Vince's exact words, not mine/)

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  28. How about using one of Lesnar's wrestling dates for a RAW. Hype it, advertise it, PEOPLE WILL WATCH.

    If they advertised a Lesnar/Zigler match for this monday, even in us knowing that 100% Lesnar is winning, WE WILL TUNE IN.

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  29. He meant a sports entertainment extravaganza.

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  30. It's good that they are announcing talent being on the show beforehand to drum up some views...

    I am pretty sure the execution will be lousy.

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  31. Ooooohhh....well sporty? Maybe? Entertaining? Probably not.

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  32. Absolutely. Giving people a reason to turn into this RAW a month beforehand drums up interest for RAW and can for the Rumble as well.
    But the execution lately has been bad.

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  33. Meltzer was on Austin's podcast talking about the ridiculousness of the term "sports entertainment", and how no one has ever asked him if he writes about sports entertainment or asks him to take them to the sports entertainment show.

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  34. "And if the nWo is appearing, can "The Vigilante" Sting show up and smack me with a baseball bat?"


    FTFM

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  35. ADVERTISING the matches and stars? Amazing.

    As long as Jake DDTs some clown, all is well. Hopefully it's Miz.

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  36. Yet nobody calls it sports entertainment besides Vince and the WWE.

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  37. It seems like it's always the same legends who come back: Dibiase, IRS, Duggan, Slaughter, Dusty, Steamboat and then Simmons says DAMN

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  38. They're probably the ones they can get on the cheap.

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  39. That's "branding" ---- because apparently Vince thinks they're Coca-Cola or some shit.

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  40. Do they only invite guys who have Legends Deals?

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  41. I guess? Jake coming back to take out Ambrose ruled, especially with Ambrose marking out. It was also cool seeing Vader get such a big pop.


    Oh, Piper is another one who always shows up.

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  42. Well IRS/Steamboat and Slaughter are agents so they are basically on the road IIRC.

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  43. Bring back Honky Tonk Man and Slick, and then we'll talk.

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  44. nWo = Now Worthless Oldies, AMIRITE?

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  45. When Vader came back and squashed Heath Slater shortly before RAW 1000 in summer 2012 it was awesome. He was in such better shape than the time he showed up in 2005 and fell on his ass.

    He's actually in even better shape now. I'd like to see him again.

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  46. The General Manager Computing Device will announce that Rollins vs. Cena will be the main event and they'll look surprised... even though the announcement went out a month earlier.

    That's how WWE operates.

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  47. - The Rougeaus
    - Paul Orndorff (WCW)
    - Barry Windham (WCW)
    - Johnny B. Badd

    Man those themes.

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  48. The go home show for Royal Rumble shouldn't need any former wrestlers.

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  49. None of that sounds good.


    They'll recreate Rollins/Ambrose lumberjack, but with Cena, so technology and ghosts won't get in the way.


    Then four old dudes will waddle on down the ramp, pose and talk for 20 minutes about whatever current storyline there is to try and get it over, fail miserably, and suck whatever little life was in the crowd to begin with.


    Ain't hard to read, people.

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  50. I thought Rikishi showing up to dance with his sons was another great feel good moment

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  51. Raw: Vegas Vacation

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  52. They'll probably plant the seeds for the Hogan/Rusev/Cena angle for WrestleMania. Nice.

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  53. We were waiting for you. Please, have a seat.

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  54. Can't be that. Vegas Vacation was at least good.

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  55. If they put Nash on commentary, I'm in.

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  56. WOOOOOOONDERFUUUUUUULLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    THEY CALL HIM MR. WOOOOOOONNNDDEEEEEERRRFUUUUUUULLLLLL!!!!!!!

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  57. I remember when it DIDN'T. It just relied on the story of whatever red-hot act was gunning to win the goddamn thing at the time. I mean, they didn't trot out Snuka, Tito Santana or Junk Yard Dog to hype the Rumble back when Rock, Austin, and Shawn were the story.

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  58. Scott Hall coming back this year and doing a survey ruled. One more for the good guys!

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  59. But they did bring out that youngster, Carlos Colon, at the 1993 Royal Rumble.

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  60. Can I guess how it'll end?


    Will it somehow end with all 30 lumberjacks getting in a giant brawl while Michael Cole yells out, "FANS, WE'RE OUT OF TIME!!!"


    What do I win?

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  61. No. I will take Hogan/Nash/Hall in the ring doing anything over whatever they decide to trot out on a monday night.

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  62. To participate, not to hype the fucking thing, like people weren't going to buy it otherwise. They weren't banking on him or Patera or Patterson selling the damn thing with nostalgia appearances, is what I'm saying.

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  63. This makes me sad.

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  64. "THE TAPE MACHINES WILL STILL BE ROLLING! THE REMAINDER OF THIS MATCH WILL BE ON THE WWE NETWORK FOR $9.99!"

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  65. Yay more nostalgia whoring to make up for a shitty current product. So good!

    I hope the ratings tank even further for this.

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  66. Bring back the Honk-A-Meter! (Scary to think that THAT is the most positive attention the IC title has received in the past seven years.)

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  67. Yeah, and that's pretty damn sad.

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  68. Tape machines? What the fuck is a tape machine?

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  69. It'd be cool if they brought back all the previous winners for the go home show for the Rumble instead. Set up portraits for the deceased winners (Studd, Yoko, Stevie Richards). I think the only one they are in bad terms with is Del Rio.

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  70. Shawn's going to look like a 19 year old kid next to those guys.

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  71. When did Scott Hall come back and do a survey?

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  72. Which is amazing, because he currently looks like my Aunt Judy.

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  73. There will be a gap around 2004 bigger than the gap in the missing wrestler's teeth.

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  74. Hulk Hogsn appreciation night.

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  75. That's what Richards is for.

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  76. BAH, I missed that. Good call.

    Did Angle ever win the Rumble?

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  77. Nope. Neither did Punk.

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  78. Im honestly glad that we are finally over a 90% dis-approval rate torwards the product on this blog.

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  79. Really? I guess I never saw that.

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  80. I'm not trying to be mean...the WWE has to do everything and anything to rebuild their audience. Something like this is only going to work once, if it works at all. They have a real problem: their current product is not connecting with the audience at all. They badly need to address that problem rather than rely on weekly tricks.

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  81. I thought Nash was the one aging the best compared to his buddies.

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  82. Kevin Dunn: Vince, this week's Raw ratings were... bad.
    Vince: How bad?
    Dunn: Johnny B. Badd bad.
    Vince: That's it, bring back the nWo! That'll put butts in the seats. Hell, let's go full throttle and bring back Shawn Michaels too!

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  83. Which, by all rights, he SHOULD have as part of the SES. That's one instance where I agree with him about being cut off at the knees. That group was on freakin' FIRE and Sereena (Double) Deeb was friggin' glorious as their "acolyte".

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  84. I cannot stop laughing at this for some reason. You gotta love how old WWF ignored the rest of the wrestling world.

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  85. Releasing HHH and Stephanie workout DVDs is not helping them to make any more money, either. I mean, the wealth of footage at their disposal, and they fall back on a Kris Jenner-like vanity scheme? Fuck them.

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  86. '93 Rumble "youngster" Carlos Colon references will never ever cease to be funny.

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  87. YankeesHoganTripleHFanDecember 17, 2014 at 1:13 PM

    Needs more Triple H. I want to see a re-inaction of the clique hug, dammit!

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  88. what does one have to do with another? and they were just released so how do you know what the sales are like?

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  89. You must be great at parties.

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  90. We're going to get a DX reunion, aren't we, with Triple H acting all jokey even though he's been a heel for more than a year.

    And it will make no sense.

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  91. Sounds harmless.

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  92. Their revenue is tanking at the moment, and they choose NOW to release vanity "fitness DVD" products featuring two people who would have NEVER achieved their own physiques without "help" of one kind or another. These things are NOT going to set the world on fire and make the WWE a hundred million dollars. You don't need to be Kreskin to see that.

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  93. I hope they bring out some new legends or something.

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  94. I'm torn on that. Punk was on fire but who do you take the shot away from?

    Miz was on fire at that point and earned his shot (at least until the Lawler and Riley feuds). Maybe he wins instead of Del Rio? But than Punk's nuts get cut off

    If we're talking RR10, than it doesn't work because you need Edge to win that Rumble to set up the best Road to WM of the last ten years. I guess you could do Edge-Jericho without the title, but how do you get the title off Taker to get someone for Punk at WM? Jericho was the perfect cowardly heel for that.

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  95. why wouldn't they try expanding their dvd market now? 2 workout videos isn't going to cost a ton to produce and let's them cross-promote w the fitness industry. There's zero downside, and there's no reason to believe Steph is on HGH.

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  96. Nick Pappagorgio for guest host!

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  97. The boobgap is a pretty good reason to believe.

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  98. Doesn't matter. It just shows priorities are with those two and not others

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  99. You've lost it now after that posting

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  100. typical IWC nonsense.

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  101. Dean Ambrose will start the show by wearing a Michigan helmet and calling himself Mathman. After he eats a poster that says "2+2=5," a hologram of Bray Wyatt as Mr. Glitch appears, gives him a Sister Abigail, and pins him 1, 2, 3.

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  102. YankeesHoganTripleHFanDecember 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    Although Shawn, Nash, and Hall joking around like it's a "sophomore class field trip" while Triple H is getting mad at them and acting all serious could be pretty funny.

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  103. Yay, the pony pulls out its trick once again.

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  104. If you can't see the obvious there, then so be it. Btw, you are a part of the iwc

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  105. It's in Dallas, so we'll at least get Kevin Von Erich.

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  106. Hey, a Raw with a bunch of the "legends" we see all the time.

    Why not make the people who are on the show now people we will actually miss some day?

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  107. Oh, it would and would draw instant boos and heat. It will make Hunter look like a corporate asshole and give even more of a reason for fans to boo him heading into whatever his WrestleMania program ends up being (Sting?).

    So they won't do it.

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  108. Those DVDs will sell nothing and we'll never see another DVD in the "Power Series". It'll be a waste of resources, like so many other non-wrestling projects that WWE does (over $30 lost on WWE Studios alone, for example).

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  109. Exactly. RR, WM and SummerSlam go home shows shouldn't be hard even for this company.

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  110. Every week should be nostalgia week. Only old part timers.

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  111. I'd wager dollars to donuts that Trips saw the Chyna She-Hulk porno and told Steph to start lifting heavy in the gym.

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  112. This is ALL kinds of win....SQUARE ONE TV FTW!!!!

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  113. ...is the pony still alive? Seems like they've beat this dead horse enough...

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  114. I'm the belle of the ball. I do a helluva Miz impression, you'd love it.

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  115. So its the same guys that show up to most of the reunion shows.

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  116. You should watch it just for Brock's killer line when he interrupted the festivities.

    "Party's over, grandpa".

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  117. So the main event from the lowest rated Raw of the year... plus a bunch of old farts doing their catchphrases from 20 years ago and making insider references? That'll fix EVERYTHING!

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  118. HBK, Hogan, Nash, Hall...let's add Duggan, Bret, Flair, Slaughter, Snuka, Rhodes, Dibiase, Piper, Steamboat. That should cover the usuals.

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  119. That is not nice.

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  120. The voice change was completely natural, huh?

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  121. Oh man, thats my line. At least you're expanding your repertoire.

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  122. He had "it"?


    Sure, if "it" refers to: a hankerin' for Meekin, and a "girlfriend" who is second to Lita in being ridden by wrestlers.

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  123. Genichiro Tenryu, he appeared twice.

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  124. They brought back Sid against Slater awhile back. That was pretty cool. So yeah we'll get simmons, slaughter, etc.

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  125. I want to see Dusty show up and dress up in full Goldust/Stardust-esque paint and vinyl outfit... DreamDust.

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  126. I think Duggan and Slaughter are, from all accounts, good people and good family men.


    But I hate them.

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  127. Why wouldn't they try expanding their dvd market in 2014? Gee I don't know?

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  128. Finally give Roddy Piper that world title run he missed out on!

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  129. Sunny will do it for a McDonalds Big Mac and a bottle of Thunderbird.

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  130. I always thought the Edge/Jericho setup for Mania 26 was super wonky. It went Edge winning the Rumble first, when Jericho wasn't champ, so when Edge won the Rumble it's not like he was now getting his shot at Jericho. It just worked out that way afterwards.


    I always thought the best Mania match for that feud would have been JeriShow as tag champs defending against a returning Edge and his partner Christian. JeriShow were on fire that year, so they coulda gone in as tag champs (instead of ShowMiz, which was a pale imitation) for a match to see who is the best tag team ever or some shit. Also would have fit the story, which began with Edge and Jericho in a tag team.

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  131. Sexy Flexy Biff KensingtonDecember 17, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    TJ: Watching the Tuesday Night Titans episode streaming on the Network, and Tiger Chung Lee busts out a Sharpshooter (!) on Steve Lombardi (!!)

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  132. They have thousands of wrestlers they could pick from. I mean lets get someone different. Fuck it, bring disco inferno or even Issac Yankem in. At least theyre different (kinda) and would be fun. Even the legends are over exposed.

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  133. I wish austin would have asked Vince what the second W in WWE stood for.

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  134. Sexy Flexy Biff KensingtonDecember 17, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    Boy, I bet the talent feels vindicated complaining about the current creative direction now, with a legend's reunion (Raw is Slamboree!) scheduled for a few weeks.

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  135. I like it when that guy says "Damn!"

    "Damn!"

    :)

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  136. Listen to a Steph promo from 2000. When you are done with that, listen to a Steph promo from 2014.
    Last I checked, you're not supposed to hit puberty between the ages of 26 and 40, yet Steph's voice surrrrrrrrre got deeper.

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  137. Did he actually say that when he wrestled? Im pretty sure he had that catchphrase after he retired.

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  138. Unfortunately, WWE tends to stick with Hall of Famers or guys on Legends deals because they want to keep promoting the WWE brand. I made a list below of guys I'd like to see whom we hardly ever see:

    Vader? Sid? Dudleys? Goldberg? Terry Funk? Koloff (either one)? Stan
    Hansen? One Man Gang? King Kong Bundy? The Mountie?

    Anybody but the same
    dozen guys they trot out all the time.

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  139. He did, but it didn't really become a pronounced, standalone thing until after he retired

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  140. The Brooklyn Brawler is a jobber by any name.

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  141. They should have a segment where HBK and Hogan compete for the friendship of Hall and Nash.

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  142. Yeah so what the hell is the point when you see those guys once every 2 or so months anyway? It's not even nostalgic anymore outside of "oh I saw them a few months ago". Thats why people went crazy when they brought Sid out versus slater awhile back.

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  143. Coming from a dude with a molly holly avatar, I can see why you'd go out of your way to complain about me. If you ever get a gf, let me know so I can insult her too. In the meantime, keep posting gems like this one. Great insight on what you do at sporting events, staring at women:

    Missing too many cuties in the crowd?

    :)

    Or this encyclopedia-sized entry you wrote the other day. In no way are you not socially inept. Nope. You're perfectly normal:

    No Vince means:

    WWF falls under a Monsoon/Skaaland/Zacko
    triumvirate, or one of them, after Vince Sr. dies. None of them are
    going national, and while they might make a move on Hogan, this Hogan
    would just be another territorial champion at best, and part time movie
    star.

    Without losing most of his top stars and television, Verne
    and the AWA are able to keep a steady pace, never threatening to break
    out (ESPN is unlikely to come calling, and the WWF might actually be
    their first choice in this world anyway), but never in any real danger
    of collapse. Wrestlers come, wrestlers go, but the AWA is constant.

    Without
    Vince's pressure, Crockett never feels the urgent need to expand
    either. There will be "natural" expansion, especially once he gets onto
    TBS, but he'll never be able to do what Vince did. His best case is a
    Southeastern "monopoly", with tendrils along the Mississippi River and
    into Chicago. But any pushes further west or north will run into
    established opposition, opposition that has no problems smacking him
    back into his home base. This MIGHT stop Crockett from going bankrupt
    and selling to Turner, but I'd call that a 50/50 at best.

    Watts
    remains a tragic figure, as the oil bust is still going to happen, and
    the core of Mid-South (never UWF, as he never sees a chance to expand
    that far) still goes into the tank in the mid-80s. Difference: Crockett
    and Gagne might get into a bidding war over Mid-South, with interesting
    consequences...

    Another tragic figure is Fritz and WCCW. The boys'
    drug problems don't magically disappear with Vince, and neither does
    Fritz's "small-time" attitude. He still doesn't grow the
    office/territory with the TV he gets, and has a fairly similar rocket
    ride both up and back down. He probably outlives Watts, BUT is unlikely
    to have the ability (or desire) to buy out Mid-South. ALTHOUGH, Verne
    giving him a little help in order to keep Crockett in check is a
    possibility... but then what?

    Eventually, there will be a "Big
    Three/Big Four", between WWF in the Northeast, JCP in the Southeast, AWA
    in the Midwest/West, and WCCW/Mid-South (Maybe Fritz and Watts merge,
    but likely not... those two weren't the closest of friends IIRC) in
    Texas/Southwest. The smaller territories still collapse, just at a
    somewhat slower pace than reality. The likely holdouts are
    Jarrett/Lawler in Memphis (as a wildcard, if anything), Graham in
    Florida (Eddie doesn't commit suicide, and Dusty doesn't get pulled away
    by a "national" JCP), Owen in the Northwest, and Hart in Stampede.

    What
    about the 90's promotions? Well, Cornette never sees a chance to open
    SMW, as the multiple territories still running keeps the talent pool
    low. However, if Turner never buys JCP, he remains there most likely,
    possibly moving into booking in his later years. As for ECW? There's
    always potential, but again the "shallower" talent pool and various
    territories makes it a hard proposition. His advantage: None of the
    territories would go into ECW's strengths anyway, and I could see an
    Eastern Championship Wrestling with some hardcore/cruiserweight hybrid.
    But no Shane Douglas throwing down the NWA title = no EXTREME World
    title.

    ---
    Do remember, there are ALWAYS possibilities, even if only stumbled upon...

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  144. Is Nash Suppose to be there or did he just get a text from HHH?

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  145. Imagine how incredibly worthless a WWE "reunion show" show will be someday when they're bringing back the stars of today. Get exited to see your old favorites like Kofi Kingston, R-Truth, Jack Swagger, Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, The Miz, The Usos, Wade Barrett, Kane.... I mean holy shit, it really does boggle the mind how un-over these fucking guys are compared to previous generations.

    Even the "megastars" like Orton and Cena--- they're gonna be worth jackshit as the Mania special attraction part-timers someday.

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  146. Now is the time to focus on Betamax while no one's looking.

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  147. Yup. It was Sid's first appearance on RAW in fifteen (!) years. That to me is a big deal.

    Seeing Sgt. Slaughter or Hacksaw Jim Duggan for the 7th time each in 2014 does nothing for me.

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  148. Can you imagine Kane and Big Show coming back for a reunion in 2025? I can't because they'll still be active members of the roster.

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  149. I bet he said "damn" after he retired and realized he couldve probably sold more shirts if he said it more when he wrestles. Har har!

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  150. Imagine how many more Big Show turns we have left to look forward to!

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  151. "You're going to be facing... Cybernetic Kane!"

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  152. Christ man, you're implying anyone, ANYONE, will ever fucking leave.

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  153. He lives in Hawaii though right?

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  154. Remember all the greats like MVP, Ted DiBiase Jr., DH Smith, Mr. Kennedy, Jillian Hall, and Trevor Murdoch?



    ...Wait, you don't?

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  155. Imagine how high up the hairline THEVIGILANTESTING will have to go at Raw Reunion 2030.

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  156. Sid and Vader have been around in the last couple years, but I see your point.

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  157. Didn't he say it sadly when Bradshaw refused to walk out with him? It was a sad damn.

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  158. He said that sparingly though. I dont think it was a catchphrase. Thats all he has said since he retired.

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  159. It was more resigned but he did it s lot. Like whenever he had to stop playing poker.

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  160. Yes, I answered a random "what-if" about the history of wrestling on a wrestling site. In no way do I consider this a definitive answer, simply a fun little diversion from the massive suck that is Pro Wrestling 2014.

    On the other hand, you like to throw out gems like this:

    "You should know that I do MMA on the side and I'm a proud member of the NRA. Just saying. And who cares about your buddy? I hear they don't get paid jack diddaly squat unless you're Kevin Dunn or some crap. Besides, I bet he's some 140 pound looser who Perry Saturn pushed around during an episode of Metal no one watched or cared about to begin with. Makes sense you'd hate on STING getting a real shot at HOF stardom because he was winning titles left and right back in the days. And will so once more. Go sell that line to your "friend" and send me a check in the mail once it hits. You can say what you want about me, but I know I'm a good writer. You on the other hand, have a friend with WWE experience and still can't see the big picture. And PS, my gf is Real and we laugh at guys like you all the time at her job."

    and

    "Howdy BODers! Got a couple questions, long time lurker/occasional poster, big fan since the rantsylvania days. Does anyone know anything about copywrite law? I might have a chance to meet a wrestler and I want to tell him some of my ideas. But I'm concerned he might just take them for himself. Back in college I wrote a stand up routine in a comedy workshop I took, and wound up in a really shitty situation after."



    Shall I go on?

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  161. Sid and Vader came back just twice in 2012 -- a few shows before RAW 1000 and RAW 1000 itself. Neither has been on in the 2+ years since. Sid hadn't been on WWE TV since 1997. Vader hadn't been on since 2005. That's long enough to miss them and make their returns big deals. Regardless, they're not "regular" legends.

    Compared to how often they put guys like Piper, Nash, or Hall on TV, it's like Haley's comet.

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  162. Holy shit, the post-Attitude Era era really did an awful job of making new upper midcard guys. Cena & Orton & Batista & got made as stars and Edge went from midcarder to star, and otherwise it really was the Attitude Era holdover starpower (HHH/HBK/Taker/Jericho/Benoit/Angle/Edge/Show/Kane) propping everything up.

    It's true, in the 2000s what fun memorable upper or even midcard guys were there? The shine of the late 90s (plus Cena and Batista) really hid a lot of WWE failures that are now coming home to roost. (No ability to get new talent over.)

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  163. You know more wrestling stuff than I do petrock.

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  164. Kai En Tai. 2 Cool. Naked Mideon. Just a few.

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  165. Can't wait for the kids to have no idea who Scott Hall is.

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  166. I would love to see Gillberg come over for the Rumble only to have Goldberg come pout next. That would be something fun and harmless.

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  167. And unlike the 1980s, the midcarders of the 2000s didn't have fun and memorable characters that would make you want to see them again 10 years later.

    DH Smith and Ted DiBiase Jr could show up on RAW next week and I literally wouldn't know who they were until Michael Cole said "Oh my gosh, it's ________!"

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  168. Raw = Old Timers Day at Yankee Stadium

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  169. Not to be morbid, but if Big Show's even alive in 2025, I'll be happy.

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  170. For God's sake, is it going to get to the point where we're marking out for a SANTINO sighting?

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  171. I vaguely remember goldberg spearing gillberg. When he was in wwe for a year. I couldve dreamt it though.

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  172. I guess you could bring back Matt Hardy. Or Carlito. I think that's it. From the entire decade.

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  173. Now I have to try and find that

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  174. Yup! Both guys wrestled on multiple PPVs and even Manias (Smith was involved in the Bret/Vince match, and Dibiase Jr had the Legacy triple threat), and yet you could bring them out next week and the audience would either A) Not remember them, or B) Remember and not give a shit.


    Kennedy and MVP were all over TV for a few years--- would either guy mean ANYTHING if they showed up on Raw next week?

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  175. You mean "the big traitor". Thats what everyone is calling him.

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  176. 2 Cool was just on Old School Raw in January and was on NXT Revival in February.

    Nobody wants to see Naked Mideon.

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  177. My God. That was glorious!!

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  178. Remember when they did this before Rumble 1999? Oh, right, they didn't. Granted, most of their old timers were fighting in WCW, but they need to stop this nostalgia crap. What I enjoyed most about the 1990s vs. 1980s is that they rarely reflected on the past. Everything was in the moment and seemed to build to the FUTURE. Now it's "Yeah, this is crap now but BACK THEN we were great!"

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  179. No attempt, really. A lot of those guys that have been listed either never got a chance to really, really cut loose and shine, or never got a character that had a hope in hell of connecting.

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  180. Well that leaves Kai en Tai..WOOO

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  181. Oh my God, King! That's Luther Reigns!

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  182. I hope the crowd completely turns on the old timers. Nothing against Hulk or Hall or... well fuck Nash... but I wish an audience would reject this pandering desperate crap too.
    Hulk Hogan saying "Lemme tell ya something brutha!" in 2015 shouldn't be the highlight of your fucking TV show, it should be vaguely heard in the background of a Radioshack commercial filled with 80s relics. That's about it.

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  183. Maybe MVP. Kennedy was only over because of a microphone.

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  184. Jeff Hardy? Or is he persona non grata because of his meth-tra curricular activities?

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  185. Jeff Hardy, you're right. He was an Attitude Era guy but he became a legit big star in the 2000s.

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  186. Hmm... you won't bang Maryse:

    The IDEA of sleeping with someone that would willingly fuck Miz is the real turnoff.

    Or a woman with tats (hmm hope Molly Holly doesn't have any):

    I'll be honest. Serious ink on a woman is a major turn-off for me.

    But you ARE a Garfield fan:

    He punted Odie and Nermal many, many times. He's cool in my book.

    And you somehow can opine on this:

    The pain and blood their asses were in when they woke up gave it away.


    And even though you practically live here (you're always on, even on nights and weekends), I wonder if you'd maybe spend your time better focusing on work, "in small retail." You say you need the blog to save your sanity, well, shit, you must be insane given how you're here 24/7 :



    Small retail with enough downtime here. That'll probably change in a
    few months once the extension is finished and we add a few employees.

    Then I'll probably be out during work, and on more when I'm off.

    Right now, I'm pretty close to never off, so being on here does help my sanity a little.

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  187. Its the weirdest thing in the world. ALL they do, between stuff like this, to literally saying that the Attitude Era was the company's best time every week on Monday Night Wars is remind us how much better they used to be on one hand (and I don't mean by comparison, they actually SAY it) and then tell us that it's NEVER coming back on the other. It's schizophrenic.

    (PS I hope that made sense)

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  188. Both got pretty decent pops, if I remember right. Hell, I bet you they could push Sid as champ right now, and he would be a MASSIVE babyface, compared to Cena.

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  189. Stop it! Both of you!

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  190. "I can't wait to hear some poetry from Heidenreich, Maggle!"

    "You know, he sexually assaulted me once."

    "Haha. Classic!"

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  191. Exactly. I mean, I get pitching the nostalgia for DVD's, but leave that to the marketing department. The show itself should be in its own vacuum. Leave the history for the damn Network, but they are clueless how to run that as well.

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  192. Agree 100%. It's almost like they're trying to prove Punk's point for him.

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