I think people were just voting for the name. Since it was Road Warriors. That's what I did when I voted for Steiners. I included all their body of work so maybe I was doing it wrong.
Well if Scott had included WCW tag team champions into the tournament too, then I would have voted for their body of work from the Big 2, but since Scott only included WWE tag champions, it'd make sense to only judge it by their WWE tag reigns.
Who would be #1 seeds in a hypothetical IC title tournament?
Savage, Bret, Perfect, Shawn seem like inclusive 1 seeds. Maybe drop Shawn for Honky since he was longest reigning champ and that has to count for something.
Yeah, you're right, though I admit for the Jannetty/Kid brackets that I voted them for general preference rather than thinking their one week reign was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
And if both teams had equal success as WWE tag team champions, then I mainly just voted the team who gave me the most entertainment rather than thinking which team would win if booked together.
Bret or Savage would definitely have to be a 1 seed. I think Razor is a strong 2 seed. He's on the level below guys like Perfect, Savage, and Bret who defined that IC title in the late 80's and early 90's.
I didn't think of Jericho but he's really the only 2000's candidate and his record number of reigns earns him an argument for high seeding.
He was the IC champ of the 90's but I don't know if can drop a Bret or a Savage in favor of Razor.
Unless you want to try and get a good IC champ from different eras as 1 seeds because Perfect and Bret were about the same time frame and I associate the IC title of that era more with Perfect than Bret so it would get jumbled in that specific era. Savage, Perfect, Razor, and Jericho gives you a more spaced out 1 seeds who defined their specific era.
But as I say all that I just can't imagine Bret not being a 1 seed.
Also, I think we put more thought into 1 seeds for this nonexistent tournament than the entirety of the Tag title one.
Bret didn't have a long IC title reign, but he had a lot of great moments as IC champion. His matches with Perfect, Piper, Bulldog are still talked about today.
Gotcha. Bret reaffirmed the belt as the stepping stone belt like Savage did as well on the way to his World Title status. Even if his reign wasn't the lengthiest. Possibly an issue that hurts Bret that I mentioned earlier is that I think Perfect was the perfect IC champion and they came right at the same time. Kinda what Cult said about Razor, Perfect was that during his reign. He was the IC title, while the IC title was a stepping stone for Bret.
Just have nominations where everybody picks 10, allowing everyone to nominate someone already nominated, and seed them based on how many nominations they each get. Then randomly seed anyone else to fill out the rest.
We'll probably have to wait for awhile because I'm pretty sure Dolph Ziggler and Wade Barrett would probably trade the title back and forth again. The Miz will probably get another reign somewhere along the line before someone new become Intercontinental Champion.
So you are now giving D'lo pity affirmative action votes to make up for Godfather's erasment!?
I'll have you know D'lo was a great enough European Champion to earn votes on his own merits. He doesn't need you besmirching his good name and the name of this tournament.
You could play that game with errbody. Razor had the ladder matches, the Diesel matches, and he just looked way cooler with the belt around his waist.
Does the first ladder match count as part of his reign since he had been stripped of the title? Technically Razor gets credit for the first Ladder match since he came in and left as champ. Shawn gets the second ladder match. I can't tell who wins in that deal because both matches are amazing.
I think that first one's a grey area, so grey. It's almost a unification match with the two belts. But I could happily have a top 3 of Bret, Razor and Shawn.
Now I'm becoming really invested in this tournament idea and I won't be able to go back to sleep. Should they be divided up by era? 70's/80's/90's/00's? No separation? Who are the two seeds? What bottom 9 should be dropped? Do you drop anyone or would that ruin the artistic integrity of the entire tournament?
Why not drop those with the nine shortest reigns. It may be a bit difficult since some of those with short reigns also had longer ones (like The Miz) but that should be the only fair way. Unfortunately that would eliminate the Mountie but some folks have to be bumped.
To be fair, Nailz claimed he was innocent of his crimes and thus couldn't really be rehabilitated. He was mental though, I can't believe they let him out of jail. Did he escape?
How frequently were the Legion of Doom called the Road Warriors in their initial WWF run though? Shouldn't they have been listed as the Legion of Doom in this tournament?
Didn't pick up steam until May? What about his feud with Mick from December-April? Granted it wasn't 100% about the title but it was still on the line during his reign in the matches that elevated him. That's what it's all about.
I think he was lawfully released. Those jails in Cobb County, GA must use the same security and review board as Arkham Asylum if a guy like Nailz can be released.
I think the Foley match was non-title for whatever reason, and I agree Orton's reign didn't pick up steam as Orton basically improved as a worker after WM.
Yeah I really wish they would use the IC title like that today. They knew Orton was a guy for the future so they groomed and protected him with an IC title run. I think Orton may have been the last guy to use the IC title as stepping stone to the world title.
I think they were Legion of Doom in their first WWF run, it wasn't until the 1997 return I hear Road Warrior Hawk/Animal or JR straight out calling them the Road Warriors with any frequency.
Shelton's run felt a lot like a Tito Santana run to me, just a popular face going over midcard heels. But Tito Santana's run paid off by launching one of the greatest IC champs of all time, Macho Man, while Shelton's fizzled with the crowning of Carlito.
The worst part is that Edge got nothing from that title win. He'd already held the belt several times and mixed up with main event guys. Him winning the IC belt was just a spin of the wheels for an aimless uppermidcarder. Shelton Benjamin would have been an inspired choice to upset Orton. Ending a big reign like Orton's could have given him the momentum to rise higher than his random victory over Jericho did.
Bret Hart may have lost but he carried the Road Warriors to a tremendous victory in the final.
As he stepped into his hotel room, Bret opened his laptop and loaded the tournament brackets on the screen. There was a knock on the door. It was Randy Savage. "Hitman that was awesome ooooh yeah".
Then came Ric Flair. With tears in his eyes, he said "Hitman, let me shake your hand! You are a great wrestler!"
Then Shawn Michaels came along as he heard that Bret has a laptop loaded with THAT tournament. As they gathered around his screen, they went over the tournament brackets. At the end Shawn Michaels stood up, pointed to the screen and said "THAT WAS THE GREATEST FUCKING TOURNAMENT I HAVE EVER SEEN!"
As his friends left his room, Hitman spotted two Japanese girls at the end of the corridor "Yooo hoooo Hitman" they yelled with cheeky smiles on their faces.
Bret's lust was always stronger than his guilt.
After burning the midnight oil with the two girls, Bret slept with a dreamy smile on his face. One of with girls slept with her breasts pressed firmly against his back.
They were heels when they first started and joined Paul Ellering's large stable. Eventually the stable was just those three and that formula worked for them for years.
If tournaments are awesome, you'll prove it by doing an IC title one.
ReplyDeleteHorseshit! Steiners/Hart Foundation were robbed.
ReplyDeleteIC title tournament is easy. The Rock. He was the best damn Intercontinental Champion that there ever was.
ReplyDeleteSomewhere, Honky is crying in his blue suede shoes.
ReplyDeleteSo you're saying that Honky Tonk is singing the blues?
ReplyDeleteI didn't know that a lot of people really loved LOD's 91/97 WWF tag reigns.
ReplyDeleteThis is what I'm saying.
ReplyDeleteI think people were just voting for the name. Since it was Road Warriors. That's what I did when I voted for Steiners. I included all their body of work so maybe I was doing it wrong.
ReplyDeleteI feel like I missed a couple of rounds of this tournament. Shizzle went by quick.
ReplyDeleteWell if Scott had included WCW tag team champions into the tournament too, then I would have voted for their body of work from the Big 2, but since Scott only included WWE tag champions, it'd make sense to only judge it by their WWE tag reigns.
ReplyDeleteWho would be #1 seeds in a hypothetical IC title tournament?
ReplyDeleteSavage, Bret, Perfect, Shawn seem like inclusive 1 seeds. Maybe drop Shawn for Honky since he was longest reigning champ and that has to count for something.
At least Scott didn't Paul Heyman it by building and building up something and not delivering the payoff at the end.
ReplyDeleteTo say that this tournament and the Place to Be Nation's 90s song tournament were executed at different paces would be an understatement.
ReplyDeleteIf that's the case Hart Foundation should have won in a landslide. I think a lot of people may have misinterpreted the tourney.
ReplyDeleteI saw some people mention who would win in an actual match too instead of just voting for preference. So the voting base was a bit of a mess.
The only 3 I think should be number one seeds are Razor, Perfect, and Jericho. Undecided about who the fourth should be.
ReplyDeleteYeah, you're right, though I admit for the Jannetty/Kid brackets that I voted them for general preference rather than thinking their one week reign was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
ReplyDeleteAnd if both teams had equal success as WWE tag team champions, then I mainly just voted the team who gave me the most entertainment rather than thinking which team would win if booked together.
Bonus points to Shawn for barely ever losing the title
ReplyDeleteBret or Savage would definitely have to be a 1 seed. I think Razor is a strong 2 seed. He's on the level below guys like Perfect, Savage, and Bret who defined that IC title in the late 80's and early 90's.
ReplyDeleteI didn't think of Jericho but he's really the only 2000's candidate and his record number of reigns earns him an argument for high seeding.
No. 1 seeds in a BoD IC tournament? Whoever the computer randomly decides to place there!
ReplyDeleteRazor was THE IC champ of the 90s. Has to be a one seed. He was the prototypical IC champ.
ReplyDeleteHe was the IC champ of the 90's but I don't know if can drop a Bret or a Savage in favor of Razor.
ReplyDeleteUnless you want to try and get a good IC champ from different eras as 1 seeds because Perfect and Bret were about the same time frame and I associate the IC title of that era more with Perfect than Bret so it would get jumbled in that specific era. Savage, Perfect, Razor, and Jericho gives you a more spaced out 1 seeds who defined their specific era.
But as I say all that I just can't imagine Bret not being a 1 seed.
Also, I think we put more thought into 1 seeds for this nonexistent tournament than the entirety of the Tag title one.
BoD 1 seeds: Santino Marella, Rikishi, Pat Patterson, and Albert.
ReplyDeleteDidn’t really hold the title for *that* long to be
ReplyDeletehonest though, and he never successfully defended it on ppv.
Shawn was GOAT at alot of things and avoiding dropping championships is one of them.
ReplyDeleteWho?
ReplyDeleteHitman
ReplyDeleteBret and Savage were on to bigger things. This is about the IC title. Razor was that title.
ReplyDeleteBret didn't have a long IC title reign, but he had a lot of great moments as IC champion. His matches with Perfect, Piper, Bulldog are still talked about today.
ReplyDeleteGotcha. Bret reaffirmed the belt as the stepping stone belt like Savage did as well on the way to his World Title status. Even if his reign wasn't the lengthiest. Possibly an issue that hurts Bret that I mentioned earlier is that I think Perfect was the perfect IC champion and they came right at the same time. Kinda what Cult said about Razor, Perfect was that during his reign. He was the IC title, while the IC title was a stepping stone for Bret.
ReplyDeleteJust have nominations where everybody picks 10, allowing everyone to nominate someone already nominated, and seed them based on how many nominations they each get. Then randomly seed anyone else to fill out the rest.
ReplyDeleteThere have been 73 different IC champions. We gotta wait to start the tournament until someone new wins the championship to make it an even 74.
ReplyDeleteSo we'll have to wait until next Monday!
He wins that one by a landslide.
ReplyDeleteBret's the worst. He tried to avoid dropping a title at Survivor Series and couldn't even do that right.
ReplyDeleteLet's just bump the Godfather off.
ReplyDeleteYeah! And then 8 more so we'll have 64.
ReplyDeleteTime. That's racist. Tons of useless whites have held the title but you just have to knock a brotha off the list.
ReplyDeleteTrue. I'd possibly give the nod to HBK for the ladder matches, the Jannetty series and the JJ match.
ReplyDeleteWe'll probably have to wait for awhile because I'm pretty sure Dolph Ziggler and Wade Barrett would probably trade the title back and forth again. The Miz will probably get another reign somewhere along the line before someone new become Intercontinental Champion.
ReplyDeleteI'll have you know that D-Lo Brown will be getting all my votes in the upcoming European Title tournament we're all very excited for.
ReplyDeletewe could drop Dean Douglas. His reign was so short it hardly counts.
ReplyDeleteCrap. Who on the roster hasn't held the IC title? Bray could get it. Ambrose? El Torio? Hotshot it to anybody for the sake of the tourney!
ReplyDeleteDouglas would probably be happy for that to be erased from existence.
ReplyDeleteSo let's leave it in.
So you are now giving D'lo pity affirmative action votes to make up for Godfather's erasment!?
ReplyDeleteI'll have you know D'lo was a great enough European Champion to earn votes on his own merits. He doesn't need you besmirching his good name and the name of this tournament.
You're sadistic right now.
ReplyDeleteKeep it up.
That could work. Drop the bottom 9 guys to make it a solid 64.
ReplyDeleteCull 62 more out and we may as well just have a Bret vs Shawn debate and save some time, that's where I'm sure it's ending up.
ReplyDeleteAll European title votes are pity votes, Art! It's a pitiful, pitiful title.
ReplyDeleteNah man, I actually think Shawn gets bounced pretty early. His IC title reigns don't stack up as well against some of the greats.
ReplyDeleteThe Jannetty matches! The ladder matches! In Your House 2!
ReplyDeleteSo Hunter Hearst Helmsley and Shawn Michaels put Degenerate allegiances aside and their friendship on the line for a nothing, a pitiful title?
ReplyDeleteYou could play that game with errbody. Razor had the ladder matches, the Diesel matches, and he just looked way cooler with the belt around his waist.
ReplyDeleteDoes the first ladder match count as part of his reign since he had been stripped of the title? Technically Razor gets credit for the first Ladder match since he came in and left as champ. Shawn gets the second ladder match. I can't tell who wins in that deal because both matches are amazing.
I think they were taking the piss!
ReplyDeleteI think that first one's a grey area, so grey. It's almost a unification match with the two belts. But I could happily have a top 3 of Bret, Razor and Shawn.
ReplyDeleteNow I'm becoming really invested in this tournament idea and I won't be able to go back to sleep. Should they be divided up by era? 70's/80's/90's/00's? No separation? Who are the two seeds? What bottom 9 should be dropped? Do you drop anyone or would that ruin the artistic integrity of the entire tournament?
ReplyDeleteAnd leave out Perfect? The gull.
ReplyDeleteWhy those...those disrespectful...those no good...disrespecting the traditions of this business...the...the....degenerates!
ReplyDeleteIntegrity is paramount when dealing with pro wrestling.
ReplyDeleteWhy not drop those with the nine shortest reigns. It may be a bit difficult since some of those with short reigns also had longer ones (like The Miz) but that should be the only fair way. Unfortunately that would eliminate the Mountie but some folks have to be bumped.
ReplyDeleteGoing off the shortest 9 combined reigns Douglas, Mountie, Test, Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, Jannetty, D'lo and Luke Harper get the Ax(and Smash)
ReplyDeleteAre you talking about MY fucking gull? Ah fuck it. We might as well have the tournament after all, I can't settle this myself.
ReplyDeleteWasn't a real quote from Hawk because it didn't start off with WEEEEEEEELLLLLLLL!!!!
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, Nailz claimed he was innocent of his crimes and thus couldn't really be rehabilitated. He was mental though, I can't believe they let him out of jail. Did he escape?
ReplyDeleteSo this would be the second Intercontinental Championship tournament in Rio de Janeiro.
ReplyDeleteExactly.. Have it in Rio and announce that Pat won his first match there against an unnamed opponent.
ReplyDeleteI figure
ReplyDelete""Broken necks, splattered patellas, severed arteries.....These are everyday occurrences for me."
ReplyDelete- Rey Mysterio Jr.
How frequently were the Legion of Doom called the Road Warriors in their initial WWF run though? Shouldn't they have been listed as the Legion of Doom in this tournament?
ReplyDeleteAlso is it just me or is every Canadian automatically from Edmonton Alberta?
ReplyDeleteThe LoD of their WWF run? This is a mild miscarriage of justice against the Hart Foundation!
ReplyDeleteThey were usually called Road Warrior Hawk Road Warrior Animal The Legion of Doom!
ReplyDeleteSo collectively they formed a Legion of Doom which was made up of two individual Road Warriors.
In the record books they are Legion of Doom in WWF I think. I'd need a look at the record book to be sure.
I've always viewed Orton's reign as overrated. Didn't really pick up steam until May and lost it in July.
ReplyDeleteTo the WWE Archives at the University of Connecticut!
ReplyDeleteDidn't pick up steam until May? What about his feud with Mick from December-April? Granted it wasn't 100% about the title but it was still on the line during his reign in the matches that elevated him. That's what it's all about.
ReplyDeleteI think he was lawfully released. Those jails in Cobb County, GA must use the same security and review board as Arkham Asylum if a guy like Nailz can be released.
ReplyDeleteI'm just going to imagine this is the LOD from Wrestlefest.
ReplyDeleteApparently he's sorted his life out and runs this place now: http://www.dexknows.com/business_profiles/aaa_trailer_sales-b1275845
ReplyDeleteThe system works.
Remarkable. I guess that seals it. If a guy like Nailz could reform then why couldn't a man like The Mountie?
ReplyDeleteAlbert had that great IC title match with Kane tho.
ReplyDeleteThat match for the title was like HHH/Flair at Taboo Tuesday. The title was a faaaaaar second to whatever issues they had.
ReplyDeleteI think the Foley match was non-title for whatever reason, and I agree Orton's reign didn't pick up steam as Orton basically improved as a worker after WM.
ReplyDeleteOrton really had the last great IC title run, I was really pissed when he lost it to Edge.
ReplyDeleteOrton was really protected the entire time he had the belt. I remember the IC title seeming important the entire time he had it.
ReplyDeleteTanaka & Sugiura would murder those dorks..
ReplyDeleteI feel like Umaga had a really good run with the IC title but I can''t be bothered to remember.
ReplyDeleteturns out that match was never signed as an official intercontinental championship bout. It was a non title contest unfortunately.
ReplyDeleteYeah I really wish they would use the IC title like that today. They knew Orton was a guy for the future so they groomed and protected him with an IC title run. I think Orton may have been the last guy to use the IC title as stepping stone to the world title.
ReplyDeleteThe Backlash match was for the IC title.
ReplyDeleteI always thought Randy Orton had the last truly meaningful Intercontinental Title reign.
ReplyDeleteIt made sense given Orton was on up to the main event for a bit and Edge was supposed to catch Fire as a face but never did.
ReplyDeleteI too was sad when he lost it to Edge. His run was really great. Agree it was one of the last times it felt meaningful.
"Tanaka & Sugiura would slap those dude's chests thoooo hard the sweat would sthpray the audienth. Mmmmm."
ReplyDeleteTo be completely honest, a Road Warriors vs. T-Hawk & Eita match would be utterly ridiculous..
ReplyDeleteYoung Stallions were robbed
ReplyDeleteBut we as an audience weren't robbed of Jim Powers large permy-looking hair, and really....that's all that matters.
ReplyDeleteBah. THE ASCENSION would kill these mooks.
ReplyDelete#SomeoneProbablySaidThisAlready
You and your Jim Powers action doll should get a room.
ReplyDeleteMUST the Road Warriors always win EVERYTHING? Fuckin marks.
ReplyDeleteWas fun though! Yay tournaments!
He had a short one that ended to Santino in the Milan Miracle and a short one in mid 2007 that ended to Jeff.
ReplyDeleteTo answer your question.
ReplyDeleteYes.
"Well...the medulla oblongata...also known as the brain stem..."
ReplyDelete- Hawk
HUSS?
ReplyDeleteLike he could actually talk that long without suffering one of those injuries.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone makes a sleeper run in the IC tournament, it's Tito Santana! ARIBA!
ReplyDeleteYou...
ReplyDeletearen't wrong.
"Broken necks, splattered patellas, severed arteries..... these are not the reasons why I'm a doctor around here."
ReplyDelete- Dr. George T. Zahorian III
"WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's the beer talking, Paul, but sskandsvdaklofjfewpmasfsdnjvslkdas five dollars? Get outta here."
Flying Jalapeno for the win!
ReplyDeleteWell, duh. I am Hoss.
ReplyDeleteYes.
ReplyDelete*Burrito
ReplyDeleteThat you are. That you are.
ReplyDeleteHuss.
ReplyDeleteh
ReplyDeleteo
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So...Powers > Roma?
ReplyDeleteHell yeah. Check the hair, brohand.
ReplyDeleteFRUSTRATED ISN'T THE GOD DAMN WORD FOR IT! THISISBULLSHIT!
ReplyDeleteWhat about vertical leap?
ReplyDeleteNot important.
ReplyDeleteRoma wasn't exactly lacking in the hair dept.
ReplyDeleteDo not compare that rat looking fuck's gross greasy mess with that of the Herculean mane of one Mr. Jim Powers.
ReplyDeleteGotta say...Powers was more like a Ken Doll. Roma actually teamed with Herc, ya know.
ReplyDeleteOh, if we're talking about success, of course Roma was better.
ReplyDeleteIf we're talking about wrestling, Roma was better.
If we're talking about pretty much anything, Roma was better.
But goddamnit, Powers had some beautiful hair.
Roma was Italian, and therefore had better hair.
ReplyDeleteThat's just science.
Quick...give Hawk the sparkling cider instead of the champagne!
ReplyDeleteI need to start reading the BOD E-fed stuff more, but I now demand that you two team up and this be your gimmick. :)
ReplyDeleteHow about a Best Tag Team that never won the WWE/F titles? Outsiders, Harlem Heat, Midnights, Ding Dongs?
ReplyDelete"I STEPPED OUT OF LINE FOR TWO GODDAMN MINUTES AND SHAWN CUT IN FRONT ME!"
ReplyDeleteI think they were Legion of Doom in their first WWF run, it wasn't until the 1997 return I hear Road Warrior Hawk/Animal or JR straight out calling them the Road Warriors with any frequency.
ReplyDeleteThat pic sucks because Rocco isn't in it.
ReplyDeleteTGGI
ReplyDeleteWhat's weird is that if he were around today, Jim Powers would most likely have an action figure.
ReplyDelete"A TEAR ISN'T THE GODDAMN WORD FOR IT. EVERYONE IN THAT GODDAMN DRESSING ROOM HAD A STREAM IN THEIR EYES WHEN THEY SAID WAS THE BEST!"
ReplyDeleteBtw what the fuck did the Road Warriors need a manager for?
ReplyDeleteToo late. He fell off the Titantron already.
ReplyDeletePretty sure this is going to happen.
ReplyDelete"...ON MY LEFT KNEE!!!"
ReplyDelete- Rey Mysterio Jr.
Shelton's run felt a lot like a Tito Santana run to me, just a popular face going over midcard heels. But Tito Santana's run paid off by launching one of the greatest IC champs of all time, Macho Man, while Shelton's fizzled with the crowning of Carlito.
ReplyDeleteHawk and Animal were eh promos.
ReplyDeleteThe worst part is that Edge got nothing from that title win. He'd already held the belt several times and mixed up with main event guys. Him winning the IC belt was just a spin of the wheels for an aimless uppermidcarder. Shelton Benjamin would have been an inspired choice to upset Orton. Ending a big reign like Orton's could have given him the momentum to rise higher than his random victory over Jericho did.
ReplyDeleteNOOOOO! They made their name in the NWA (hock, ptuey) for chrissakes!
ReplyDeletehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ng6kpHpcfdY
ReplyDeleteObviously you never saw Hawk threaten to sodomize Flair.
ReplyDeleteIt's more entertaining than Raw that's for sure,
ReplyDeleteBret Hart may have lost but he carried the Road Warriors to a tremendous victory in the final.
ReplyDeleteAs he stepped into his hotel room, Bret opened his laptop and loaded the tournament brackets on the screen. There was a knock on the door. It was Randy Savage. "Hitman that was awesome ooooh yeah".
Then came Ric Flair. With tears in his eyes, he said "Hitman, let me shake your hand! You are a great wrestler!"
Then Shawn Michaels came along as he heard that Bret has a laptop loaded with THAT tournament. As they gathered around his screen, they went over the tournament brackets. At the end Shawn Michaels stood up, pointed to the screen and said "THAT WAS THE GREATEST FUCKING TOURNAMENT I HAVE EVER SEEN!"
As his friends left his room, Hitman spotted two Japanese girls at the end of the corridor "Yooo hoooo Hitman" they yelled with cheeky smiles on their faces.
Bret's lust was always stronger than his guilt.
After burning the midnight oil with the two girls, Bret slept with a dreamy smile on his face. One of with girls slept with her breasts pressed firmly against his back.
All this means is that Road Warrior Animal cast more votes than Jim Neidhart.
ReplyDeleteThey were heels when they first started and joined Paul Ellering's large stable. Eventually the stable was just those three and that formula worked for them for years.
ReplyDeleteYay an incredibly overrated team that none of us really like that much.
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