Much as I enjoy the guy's talk, his whole "let's go back to how it was 25 years ago and everything will be great" mentality ignores the tiny fact that audiences have shifted. Sure, he goes to "tastes won't change" but they do. If anything, Bill Watts proved that when he tried to put 1970's style booking and presentation for a 1992 nationwide audience and that didn't go well. I agree, a lot of things back then were great but just as many problems too and like it or not, fans today may not go as wild for it as the "old-timers' expect.
The clip of Hogan talking shit to Vince on a Smackdown prior to their Wrestlemania match. He stumbled over the same line like 6 times. I almost felt bad for him.
I'd love to hear Cornette rant about Reigns. It'd get 50 fucking fucks about Roman's stupid fucking hair flip and how he looks like he's fisting a fucking asshole; how he gives the dumbest fucking promos and fucking smirks at the camera like he's Jimmy fucking Fallon; how the fucking story makes no fucking sense; and how the fucking ratings are fucking tanking even though he's up against Brock fucking Lesnar at WrestlefuckingMania!
Nah, he was great when he first debuted on Smackdown. Once Vince realized he had a little person on staff and got a hold of his character that was the end.
Put Jim Cornette and Kevin Nash in a locked room with no food or water until they both agree on a full booking plan for Wrestlemania 31. I'd love to see what they come up with.
There was that bit...god help us...where DX went underneath the ring and encountered Little People's Court. That was awful enough, but the fact that they lit the way with their DX glow sticks was beyond cringe worthy.
When he hid under the ring and helped Finlay win matches? I never liked that. Finlay had a fine gimmick as he was -- an Irish ass-kicker. Why pair him with a leprechaun?
I just don't get how... Like, OK, Hogan has his own schedule, but how do you not make sure to see the video to promo against so you can make sure you're not going to look like an asshole?
IT WAS A VIDEO and yet Hogan looked like Roman Reigns improving against it.
I liked Test joining the Alliance so Austin lets him cut a promo and he goes: NOTHING GOOD HAS EVER COME OUT OF THE STATE OF TEXAS and Austin has this dumb look on his face
Most of that stuff, from what I can remember, was self-aware and actually making fun of themselves because they knew they were older family guys who weren't "hip" any more. I thought most of the "Chef HBK" stuff was pretty hilarious.
If you have been thinking of checking out the Shawn Michaels book "Wrestling for My Life", be forewarned that it's a little bit of wrestling and shit ton of Jesus.
That time Hornswoggle painted a tunnel on a wall like a roadrunner cartoon and ran through it. Than Carlito tried to run through and smashed into the wall.
I love this clip of Ivory ripping on Triple H's 20 minute promos. Later on she talks about how he always was jealous of Austin, Rock, and Taker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jfAy_8Ea9g
mayb im crazy but is wcw better than wwf in 93 . watching battlebowl the roster seem to be working as a team here and i am buying alot of these wrestlers as real threats. plus i like this battlebowl concept too
Hey, people can say what they will about the Austin turn being the wrong business move but it was ABSOLUTELY the right entertainment move. That was my favourite period of his career - he was funny, weird, scary AND having awesome matches. As someone who doesn't own WWE stock, I couldn't care less if that turn helped tank business. It entertained me greatly!
The HLA segment with Bishoff when he tried to get the crowd to chant HLA. WWE had HLA t shirts in their catalogs so they were trying to make that a thing
According to Cornette logic,I can't like Star Wars because I'm aware they're actually just guys in front of a blue wall and not real space heroes.
Anyone actually ever watch SMW? I used to watch in the 90s when I was watching ANYTHING wrestling. The big angle was this one guy was retarded and he liked cats so Tammy sytch and Chris Candido killed his cat so he beat up Candido and then the slow guy and Cactus Jack pay their respects at the cat graveyard while "he ain't heavy,he's my brother" plays in the background. SMW was the fakest bullshit ever devised. You'd have to actually be a smoky mountain resident to be dumb enough to believe it. Roman Reigns is 100 times better,hell,that Halloween havoc electric chair match has more realism,so I don't get his whole "wah wah kayfabe" crap when his stupid southern bullshit was faker than anything Vince ever did. And more insulting to your intelligence.
So, we've heard that Daniel Bryan isn't very aggressive behind the scenes in putting himself over, something that, apparently, Vince McMahon doesn't like. So, my question is, does Sami Zayn put himself over behind the scenes? Since both he and Bryan don't have the traditional look that McMahon likes, if Zayn were to get over on the main roster and was more aggressive about his own success behind the scenes, would he have a better chance of succeeding than Daniel Bryan?
I love how Cornette thinks that wrestling could maintain kayfabe in this day and age. Come on- in the age of the internet? You can't keep ANYTHING away.
Hot Lesbian Action. It was an attempt by Bischoff at creating controversy on Raw by having two chicks make out. But before they kissed, he had the 3 Minute Warning beat them up.
Jim Cornette hasn't been a fan of today's pro wrestling for 20 years now.
ReplyDelete"Spear! Spear! Spear!" and just about any attempt at getting the audience to chant something really lame.
ReplyDeleteThe Melina/John Morrison interview just after the Heel turns on Foley. It went on for ages, and just made them look like they weren't ready.
ReplyDeleteEvery time Michael Cole tells me something is funny.
ReplyDeleteThat's the one I was going to post on. I think they opened RAW one week and were just lost out there.
ReplyDeleteR-Truth's current trend of screaming, "Whoomp there it is!" is up there.
ReplyDeleteCornette's only 53? Holy shit, I never knew he was that young.
ReplyDeleteLex Luger struggling with tearing his shirt off is high for me:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMrInHzvOa0&index=4&list=PLSBKtXjWufGMdeL6dANInvEQhYvrA4zxA
Oh Tag-lita
ReplyDeleteHave we forgotten Sid losing mid-thought, going "Let's try again" and JR telling him "we're live, pal?"
ReplyDeleteWhen the rock was trying to get cookie puss over
ReplyDeleteMuch as I enjoy the guy's talk, his whole "let's go back to how it was 25 years ago and everything will be great" mentality ignores the tiny fact that audiences have shifted. Sure, he goes to "tastes won't change" but they do. If anything, Bill Watts proved that when he tried to put 1970's style booking and presentation for a 1992 nationwide audience and that didn't go well. I agree, a lot of things back then were great but just as many problems too and like it or not, fans today may not go as wild for it as the "old-timers' expect.
ReplyDeleteCtrl-F "Russo"
ReplyDeleteNo results? I didn't think he had it in him.
Yep, he was super young when he broke in.
ReplyDeleteCornette is the crankiest bastard and I love him for it.
ReplyDelete"Stop trying to get tag happen, Amy!"
ReplyDeleteThe clip of Hogan talking shit to Vince on a Smackdown prior to their Wrestlemania match. He stumbled over the same line like 6 times. I almost felt bad for him.
ReplyDeleteRemember the one week HBK was in the wheelchair and tried to get "TRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII" over as a nickname for HHH?
ReplyDeleteIf I grew up in the real kayfabe days like Cornette and like 99% of people on Wrestling Classics, I'd probably be the same way.
ReplyDeleteAll the insanely stupid chants Jericho tried to get the crowd to do during his promos.
ReplyDeleteI honestly think he tried them JUST to see if it'd work for shits and giggles.
Everything Hornswoggle ever did in WWE except the WeeLC match
ReplyDelete"Keep it up MY NIGGA!"
ReplyDeleteI will always remember the day Hogan lost in a verbal battle to a pretaped promo.
ReplyDeleteI'd love to hear Cornette rant about Reigns. It'd get 50 fucking fucks about Roman's stupid fucking hair flip and how he looks like he's fisting a fucking asshole; how he gives the dumbest fucking promos and fucking smirks at the camera like he's Jimmy fucking Fallon; how the fucking story makes no fucking sense; and how the fucking ratings are fucking tanking even though he's up against Brock fucking Lesnar at WrestlefuckingMania!
ReplyDeleteRoman Reigns any time he says words out of his mouth.
ReplyDeleteHB-Shizzle. Nothing else even comes close.
ReplyDeleteBROGUE! BROGUE! BROGUE!
ReplyDeleteWhat does that even mean?
ReplyDeleteNothing says relevant like a 50-something white dude dressed like redneck Jesus making twenty year-old rap references.
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't really say anything though. Another non-article article.
ReplyDeleteJim Cornette has something to say? This is big news!
ReplyDeleteI've seen this a dozen times and I still don't understand why Lex is talking to a giant plum.
ReplyDeleteI did too. But no matter how fond the memories, we can't go back to those times, just like we can't go back to disco.
ReplyDeleteNah, he was great when he first debuted on Smackdown. Once Vince realized he had a little person on staff and got a hold of his character that was the end.
ReplyDeleteWhen Triple H, who has more nicknames than Christ himself, was called, "The Ace of Spades". Enough fucking already!
ReplyDeleteHave you listened to pop music in the last three years? Have you even heard of Daft Punk?
ReplyDeletePut Jim Cornette and Kevin Nash in a locked room with no food or water until they both agree on a full booking plan for Wrestlemania 31. I'd love to see what they come up with.
ReplyDeleteSo badly they couldn't even chop it out of the taped show
ReplyDeleteNo, and no.
ReplyDeleteCornette hasn't been a fan of wrestling since SMW died.
ReplyDeleteThere was that bit...god help us...where DX went underneath the ring and encountered Little People's Court. That was awful enough, but the fact that they lit the way with their DX glow sticks was beyond cringe worthy.
ReplyDeleteLong story short: disco's back.
ReplyDeleteGod I love that promo on the side of the Rock
ReplyDelete"Can you just skip to the part where you rip the shirt and do the pose and WHATCHUGONNADO BLABLABLA RACKLE RACKLE RWCKLE RACKLE"
Nash: "I'm still getting paid, right? I can milk this for a few days."
ReplyDeleteGroovy. I'll just pop on down to the local discotheque and check it out.
ReplyDeleteDaft Punk have been around for like 20 years. Crazy.
ReplyDeleteWhen he hid under the ring and helped Finlay win matches? I never liked that. Finlay had a fine gimmick as he was -- an Irish ass-kicker. Why pair him with a leprechaun?
ReplyDelete"You say your name is Finlay and you loce to fight. I say your name is Finlay and you're a BATHURD!"
ReplyDeleteThere's a reason "soft spoken" was a part of Lashley's gimmick
They only broke big at the beginning of 2013 thanks to "Get Lucky."
ReplyDeleteThe 1970s and 80s ideas could work, but it would be on the younger talent to make it modern. That's how wrestling always worked.
ReplyDeleteNo, the kids go to dive bars nowadays.
ReplyDeleteCAUSE HES IRISH DAMMIT! YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW THIS BUSINESS WORKS, DO YA, PAL?!
ReplyDeleteTo be a little fair to Shawn, he knows it makes no sense. According to him, it was an inside joke gone out of control
ReplyDeleteThe Lil Bastard. Especially with JBL on commentary. You can tell he loved the guy
ReplyDeleteWasn't there one where there's a gag involving Hunter getting a blow job from Candice Michelle?
ReplyDeleteNo, they were both getting oral:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZkky9n20c
HILARIOUS
I just don't get how... Like, OK, Hogan has his own schedule, but how do you not make sure to see the video to promo against so you can make sure you're not going to look like an asshole?
ReplyDeleteIT WAS A VIDEO and yet Hogan looked like Roman Reigns improving against it.
On Robocop?
ReplyDeleteYes.
I think we can agree that Stan deserved that superkick, at least
ReplyDeleteChinese
ReplyDelete"Da Funk" and "Around the World" were pretty big in their day.
ReplyDeleteAbbie Cornish huh? Pretty hot.
ReplyDeleteI liked Test joining the Alliance so Austin lets him cut a promo and he goes: NOTHING GOOD HAS EVER COME OUT OF THE STATE OF TEXAS and Austin has this dumb look on his face
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean can't go back to disco - it never left did it?
ReplyDeleteHe's just a fucking head now? lol
ReplyDeleteThought the same. He carries on like he's a crotchety 80 year old man
ReplyDeleteYes but it also gave us the What chants which are by far the worts things audiences do.
ReplyDeleteLots of heel victories at WrestleMania 3
ReplyDeleteI approve
ReplyDelete*They'd* have you believe it.
ReplyDeleteNot that it's true.
Remember, they create everything that's good.
The third go round where they were constantly shilling merch had its moments.
ReplyDelete06 was garbage.
WWE's shitty in-ring promo style encourages them to do it.
ReplyDeleteMost of that stuff, from what I can remember, was self-aware and actually making fun of themselves because they knew they were older family guys who weren't "hip" any more. I thought most of the "Chef HBK" stuff was pretty hilarious.
ReplyDeleteYou're thinking of the third go around. The second go round they didn't have that awareness.
ReplyDeleteIf you have been thinking of checking out the Shawn Michaels book "Wrestling for My Life", be forewarned that it's a little bit of wrestling and shit ton of Jesus.
ReplyDeleteJust about any time the announce team laughs at anything.
ReplyDeleteThat time Hornswoggle painted a tunnel on a wall like a roadrunner cartoon and ran through it. Than Carlito tried to run through and smashed into the wall.
ReplyDeleteExcept people do it. So at least it's a successful sort of lame.
ReplyDeleteHey, Community did that.
ReplyDeleteIf you're not streets ahead, you're streets behind.
ReplyDeleteI thought the same thing when I saw that Heyman's not even 50 yet.
ReplyDeleteShawn screaming about how they got his leg and Triple H corpsing was pretty great.
ReplyDeleteYeah it was two millionaires effectively masturbating on television, but at least somebody was having a good time.
If Charlotte, who's hardly a fully-formed mic worker can shut down those chants, than the rest of the talent has no excuse.
ReplyDeleteShawn superkicking everybody backstage was funny
ReplyDeleteThe Dungeon of Doom. Holy shit!
ReplyDeleteKoreans.
ReplyDeleteMary Hart, one of the rare celebs who looked genuinely excited to be there
ReplyDeleteTruth Martini on commentary. Or any RD Evans promo.
ReplyDeleteStacy Keibler trying to get "Testicles" over as a way to refer to his fans. Gawd.
ReplyDeleteOkay, and this bit was funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0u90_UEFMM
ReplyDeleteBut the other 90%? Lame
So assume disco is short for discotheque and my point stands.
ReplyDeleteOh, TAG!
ReplyDeleteI love this clip of Ivory ripping on Triple H's 20 minute promos. Later on she talks about how he always was jealous of Austin, Rock, and Taker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jfAy_8Ea9g
ReplyDeleteI thought the skit where shawn was working as a line cook was pretty good
ReplyDeleteDidn't Sid used to say something like 'mama said it be that way sometimes'?
ReplyDeletemayb im crazy but is wcw better than wwf in 93 . watching battlebowl the roster seem to be working as a team here and i am buying alot of these wrestlers as real threats. plus i like this battlebowl concept too
ReplyDeleteAnything involving Head was awful.
ReplyDeleteAny time Mark Madden tried to get a Kevin Smith line over on commentary. "Snootchie-bootchies!"
ReplyDeleteAlso, him screaming "SPINAROONIE!!!!!" for Booker T ruined that moment.
No, that was a fake out. He still may have done some damage there though.
ReplyDeleteJesse Ventura gives Hogan all of the props in the world for beating Andre but then once he celebrates too long he's right back to hating him.
ReplyDeleteThat was one segment out of like 475 DX segments during those years
ReplyDeleteicelanders
ReplyDeleteAnything Mark madden said would qualify.
ReplyDeleteHey, people can say what they will about the Austin turn being the wrong business move but it was ABSOLUTELY the right entertainment move. That was my favourite period of his career - he was funny, weird, scary AND having awesome matches. As someone who doesn't own WWE stock, I couldn't care less if that turn helped tank business. It entertained me greatly!
ReplyDeleteMan, this thread is fucking dead.
ReplyDeleteRandom thought about skateboarding, and surfing I guess: how the hell do they keep their feet on the board?
Agreed. Austin going heel might have been an awful business mood, but him as the paranoid leader of the Alliance was hilarious.
ReplyDeleteI absolutely love the Vince/Austin/Angle skits that came later. They honestly could've made a sitcom about the three of them.
How can you not laugh at Kurt Angle in a little cowboy hat?
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How so?
ReplyDeleteRoody Poo or Slapnuts are equally awful!
ReplyDeleteThe HLA segment with Bishoff when he tried to get the crowd to chant HLA. WWE had HLA t shirts in their catalogs so they were trying to make that a thing
ReplyDeleteEva Green needs to get back into that market.
ReplyDeleteI could never get behind Jericho's 'shut the hell up' bit.
ReplyDeleteSpace Pope agrees.
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to shit like that no one should care.
ReplyDeleteI always thought she was hot.
ReplyDeleteyea her and Ucker
ReplyDeleteAccording to Cornette logic,I can't like Star Wars because I'm aware they're actually just guys in front of a blue wall and not real space heroes.
ReplyDeleteAnyone actually ever watch SMW? I used to watch in the 90s when I was watching ANYTHING wrestling. The big angle was this one guy was retarded and he liked cats so Tammy sytch and Chris Candido killed his cat so he beat up Candido and then the slow guy and Cactus Jack pay their respects at the cat graveyard while "he ain't heavy,he's my brother" plays in the background.
SMW was the fakest bullshit ever devised. You'd have to actually be a smoky mountain resident to be dumb enough to believe it. Roman Reigns is 100 times better,hell,that Halloween havoc electric chair match has more realism,so I don't get his whole "wah wah kayfabe" crap when his stupid southern bullshit was faker than anything Vince ever did. And more insulting to your intelligence.
That's asinine. Around the World,Digital Love,One More Time,harder better faster stronger,come on.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if you watch NXT, but for a while Jason Jordan and Tye Dillinger were basically Troy and Abed.
ReplyDeleteAny character portrayed by RD Evans is pure gold. That guy is hillarious.
ReplyDeleteMy cousin has skateboarded all his life and I still do not understand how the process happens.
ReplyDeleteSo, we've heard that Daniel Bryan isn't very aggressive behind the scenes in putting himself over, something that, apparently, Vince McMahon doesn't like. So, my question is, does Sami Zayn put himself over behind the scenes? Since both he and Bryan don't have the traditional look that McMahon likes, if Zayn were to get over on the main roster and was more aggressive about his own success behind the scenes, would he have a better chance of succeeding than Daniel Bryan?
ReplyDeleteMcMahon would never push Zayn, period.
ReplyDeleteI never liked jericho in the wwf. Lame
ReplyDeleteRoody poo candy ass was awesome!
ReplyDeleteRD Evans is a god!
ReplyDeleteThe greatest streak since Goldberg!
I love how Cornette thinks that wrestling could maintain kayfabe in this day and age. Come on- in the age of the internet? You can't keep ANYTHING away.
ReplyDeleteNone of the invasion should have been funny. Main eventers shouldn't be singing in bad skits
ReplyDeleteHe's so bad.
ReplyDeleteYes! In late 97. Even Jim Ross was like "trrii?! Oh please"
ReplyDeleteYeah, he really looks like shit for his age. Always did. Christ, he was MY AGE in about 1994, and looked almost 50 THEN.
ReplyDeleteTerritories play to their audience, not the entire world.
ReplyDeleteUecker rules in everything.
ReplyDeleteBut when guys do try to get themselves over they get buried...
ReplyDeleteSenile old fucking idiot...
I don't like any rock catchphrase attempts post 2000
ReplyDeleteI can't believe she's over 50 years old in that clip. Holy FUCK did she age well.
ReplyDeleteSpear spear spear too Mr Copeland
ReplyDeleteHLA?
ReplyDeleteThe invasion angle turned me off to wrestling for over 10 years
ReplyDeleteHot Lesbian Action. It was an attempt by Bischoff at creating controversy on Raw by having two chicks make out. But before they kissed, he had the 3 Minute Warning beat them up.
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