While Hogan joined the side that was winning, he was actually on the side that was losing. WCW was falling behind in the ratings after the DX invasion. A tank had changed everything
TRIPLE H: Once we brought the tank out, it didn't matter if you were Hollywood or Wolfpack, red or white. We were all about the green.
Maybe I'm a sucker, but I totally didn't see the big twist coming. I was legit shocked watching it in the theatre, yet in hindsight, it's SUPER OBVIOUS.
While there is a nugget of truth to what Russo says, that wrestling programming has become formulaic, as usual most of what comes out of Vinnie Ru's mouth is straight-up BS. It amazes me that a man, who keeps stating how much he hates the business and everyone in it, keeps trying to stay in it. He was writing for TNA last year and recently tried to get hired by Lucha Underground (who promptly turned him away.)
And one more thing: "the only people who care about wrestling are those who care about wrestling." No shit.
Because the nWo was already a red hot angle before Hogan joined. It was going to be a giant money making storyline no matter what. Hogan just took it to another level.
After 13 years, I'm surprised that San Andreas is the Rock's biggest non-furious opening. I figured with all the action movies he has been in that he would have had at least several 50 million+ openings.
And by next level you mean all time great angle, group that made money for many years and brought wrestling back into pop culture? Because you're totally downplaying Hogans involvement.
I sort of disagree. The key is understanding what wrestling is, what makes it appeal to people (not just fans but people in general), and then a wrestling promotion working to deliver a product that appeals specifically to the fans they are attempting to appeal to.
Ring of Honor doesn't simply appeal to it's own fans or a certain type of fan, but to people who are attracted to a certain something in that type of wrestling. Russo, when he dismisses RoH (and TNA for that matter) is both nihilistically right and pig-headedly wrong in that attitude. He's right, because the wrestling business is WWE probably greater now than it's ever been before. He's wrong, though, in that there is potential in the RoH situation to spur excitement amongst current wrestling fans, which is always good for the business; as is presenting an existing product to a potential new audience of viewers.
The reviews for that movie have been exactly what you would expect for a disaster movie. Cool special effects, not enough plot. I'll wait for the On Demand to see it.
Just read that Seinfeld's tv show has given him almost half a billion dollars over the last 25 years. What is even more remarkable about that the show was extremely lucky to air 1 season.
I spent the morning eating bologna sandwiches and watching old Nickelodeon bumpers on youtube instead of doing laundry. My fiance slept in until 2:30 and we're now watching Bill Nye the Science Guy. #grownups
They couldn't. If Hogan says he's in the main event, he's in the main event. Or you tear up his contract and get sued and watch him go back to Vince with a sane contract.
Him going to WWE would have helped WCW. Make his life miserable for a few months then go to him with a deal like "hey let's agree to tear up this contract and you'll be free to go to Japan or back to Vince or wherever"
Amell isn't mainstream. Mainstream actors tend to be in bigger movies than Screamers: The Hunting. Also being in a show that was in in the top 100 ratings in America would help too.
They just had an episode of Raw starring four guys who have never been big film stars, and are only starring in a movie based off a show they're famous for.
And see, that's the thing: Russo isn't a wrestling fan. He doesn't give a shit what happens in the ring. He just likes angles and hot women and gimmicks. If you asked him why professional wrestling has been around for over a hundred years, and a staple of television for over 60, he'd just answer "oh I know, bro..." then change the subject. He doesn't know. He just knows what he likes and thinks that's what wrestling should be.
Telling you. All about crowd reaction, and believability with regard to killing Cena.
Of course, if he is main roster now, he'll job to John tonight, and then get involved in a boring 50/50 feud with fucking Miz. Maybe get mimicked by Sandow.
I think that people who go on to news websites and comment on every story, even ones that have no political slant whatsoever, with shots at political parties or politicians that they don't care for, are some truly fascinating weirdos.
I love that he's not challenging for the US title yet. He hasn't earned a shot at the belt yet in Keyfabe, yet if he does beat Cena tonight, then the rematch for the belt will mean that much more. .
Kind of genius when you think about it. The nWo, and certain members in particular, are getting cheered, so they create a face version of the nWo and loaded it up with the company's most popular guys - Nash, Savage, Luger, Sting, even Konnan was popular at the time.
He certainly did. His real name was Ivan, and the original gimmick Bruce gave him was "Poison Ivy", which later got changed to H. "Ivy" Thomson. I'm not sure if Bruce realized he had just named a guy HIV, I think the idea was supposed to be that his name spelled out H-I-T. Either way, that gets my vote for stupidest name in wrestling.
Awful Bruce Hart gimmicks that might not have been mentioned:
Frank Einstein, the terrible Carl Leduc gets repackaged as a "brilliant minded monster" heel. It's even stupider than it sounds, and even worse hearing Mauro Ranallo try to sell it.
William Butler Yeats. Yea, why not just name a guy after a famous poet?
Ditto for naming a guy Ty Cobb.
Or why not name a guy after a type of cheese? Enter Monteray Jack to the squared circle.
And let's round it all out by naming the ref Oscar Wilde. Because, Bruce Hart.
That seems like a long shot. would be cool though
ReplyDeleteI think he takes Rusev's spot.
ReplyDeleteWatching Crazy, Stupid, Love. It's decent.
ReplyDeleteHarvey feels stronger when he wrestles with Adam.
ReplyDeleteI guess jobbing to a D level celebrity would be the final nail in his coffin.
ReplyDeleteRed Robin. Fuck yes.
ReplyDeleteI can hear this on a WWE documentary.
ReplyDeleteWhile Hogan joined the side that was winning, he was actually on the side that was losing. WCW was falling behind in the ratings after the DX invasion. A tank had changed everything
TRIPLE H: Once we brought the tank out, it didn't matter if you were Hollywood or Wolfpack, red or white. We were all about the green.
Maybe I'm a sucker, but I totally didn't see the big twist coming. I was legit shocked watching it in the theatre, yet in hindsight, it's SUPER OBVIOUS.
ReplyDeleteHm I'm intrigued!
ReplyDeleteHe's the man!
ReplyDeleteHow so?
ReplyDeleteExcept by turning the group heel you negate the reasoning behind their popularity.
ReplyDeleteDoh!
Brother.
The spokeswoman is so cute
ReplyDeleteGlad to see your sex change was successful.
ReplyDeleteFinally someone with the correct response to this news.
ReplyDelete:: Vows not to curbstomp you today ::
DERP!
ReplyDeleteSexist.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait till Felicity jobs to a Bella
ReplyDeleteHulk should have changed his name to "Goldberg" Hulk Hogan so he could get half of Goldberg's merch sales too.
ReplyDeleteYeah, she's sexy
ReplyDeleteMovie.
ReplyDeleteProbably?
says the guy that watched One Tree Hill!
ReplyDeletePix of Lobsterhead on the TMNT 2 set are out
ReplyDeletehttp://insidepulse.com/2015/05/31/vince-russo-blog-crazy-rant-bashing-tna-roh-wrestling-fans-raw/
ReplyDeleteWhile there is a nugget of truth to what Russo says, that wrestling programming has become formulaic, as usual most of what comes out of Vinnie Ru's mouth is straight-up BS. It amazes me that a man, who keeps stating how much he hates the business and everyone in it, keeps trying to stay in it. He was writing for TNA last year and recently tried to get hired by Lucha Underground (who promptly turned him away.)
And one more thing: "the only people who care about wrestling are those who care about wrestling." No shit.
On a quick glance outside of my window, no traffic is visible.
ReplyDeleteFinally watching Mad Max: Fury Road. It starts in 10min. Ill post my thoughts after it.
ReplyDeleteI kind of love The West Edmonton Mauler. Those other ones are the worst though.
ReplyDeleteHe should win the US and IC belts tonight. We need a dude who walks around with multiple singles belts like Lance Storm in WCW.
ReplyDeleteFacing Biff in fantasy league action this week. I just now qualified for the ERA and WHIP categories. I'm up 9-1. Stranger's Dangers back in the race!
ReplyDeleteBOOOO, jobbing to a C-level actor, not cool.
ReplyDeleteI am Queen's Boulevard.
ReplyDeletea man has to eat and this is the thing he is most qualified for
ReplyDeletesheamus is in tmnt2?
ReplyDeleteIf he wins... BAN him!
ReplyDeleteIf Biff comes back to win, I'm calling shenanigans and I'm banning him.
ReplyDeleteI hope you aren't driving anytime soon because you are TOTALLY DRUNK WITH POWER!
ReplyDeleteHe's 100% correct in that blog post.
ReplyDeleteYou are, as usual, wrong.
ReplyDeleteAdding Sting and Luger was pretty stupid.
ReplyDeleteNO!
ReplyDeleteDon't talk back to your elders.
ReplyDeleteTime to go out in the yard and look at a hill for a while.
ReplyDeleteAll this power is making me unstable. There might be a heel turn coming soon.
ReplyDeleteDon't off yourself! You have much to live for!
ReplyDeleteIs that what the kids are calling ganking it now.
ReplyDeleteYou'd just be the cool heel that people cheer anyway.
ReplyDeleteNope. Or maybe. What the hell do I know from kids these days?
ReplyDeleteI'm going to look at a hill.
It's a low hill. Unsuitable for suicide.
ReplyDeleteHe's not. Amell stars in a lowly rated tv show and has been in no hit movies.
ReplyDeleteYour statement sounded like the words of a man who had given up...
ReplyDeleteNot at all. It's Sunday afternoon, homework is done, coffee is consumed.
ReplyDeleteI need to do something with the rest of my afternoon.
He definitely is. Go back to your hole now.
ReplyDeleteBecause the nWo was already a red hot angle before Hogan joined. It was going to be a giant money making storyline no matter what. Hogan just took it to another level.
ReplyDeleteGo back to your bubble where Arrow is some huge hit show and Amell is a world famous actor.
ReplyDeleteI'm right, you're wrong its that simple.
ReplyDeleteMake sure you respond to this.
After 13 years, I'm surprised that San Andreas is the Rock's biggest non-furious opening. I figured with all the action movies he has been in that he would have had at least several 50 million+ openings.
ReplyDeleteAnd by next level you mean all time great angle, group that made money for many years and brought wrestling back into pop culture? Because you're totally downplaying Hogans involvement.
ReplyDeleteSaid this last night, but I think Taryn could do good work with this character.
ReplyDeleteAnd the Wolves/Heels match is why we love wrestling
Owens has three new shirts on the website. Time to decide which one to buy. Don't judge me for buying wrestling shirts.
ReplyDeleteI sort of disagree. The key is understanding what wrestling is, what makes it appeal to people (not just fans but people in general), and then a wrestling promotion working to deliver a product that appeals specifically to the fans they are attempting to appeal to.
ReplyDeleteRing of Honor doesn't simply appeal to it's own fans or a certain type of fan, but to people who are attracted to a certain something in that type of wrestling. Russo, when he dismisses RoH (and TNA for that matter) is both nihilistically right and pig-headedly wrong in that attitude. He's right, because the wrestling business is WWE probably greater now than it's ever been before. He's wrong, though, in that there is potential in the RoH situation to spur excitement amongst current wrestling fans, which is always good for the business; as is presenting an existing product to a potential new audience of viewers.
Awww, look at him throwing a tantrum because no one watches his favorite show!
ReplyDeleteThe reviews for that movie have been exactly what you would expect for a disaster movie. Cool special effects, not enough plot. I'll wait for the On Demand to see it.
ReplyDeleteI'll probably watch it on a boring summer weekday when tickets are $5
ReplyDeleteso does this mean Hogan will be clamoring for a match with Goldberg at Mania 32?
ReplyDeleteAs long as it's not a Cena shirt, you're golden, comrade.
ReplyDeleteYes, that is what I mean.
ReplyDeleteLittle known Stranger fact:
ReplyDeleteI still have my Benoit "4 Real" shirt that I bought in 2004.
Russo is often right a lot when it comes to creative thinking, and that it's very lacking in the wrestling business. It's the one area he has talent.
ReplyDeleteBut, as we often note, the main problem is how much time WWE has to fill.
Just read that Seinfeld's tv show has given him almost half a billion dollars over the last 25 years. What is even more remarkable about that the show was extremely lucky to air 1 season.
ReplyDeleteUgh. I don't know what's worse. A child murderer's shirt or the fact the shirt has the shittiest catchphrase in the history of pro wrestling.
ReplyDeleteNah. Just dictating your behavior. That's what my class does to your class. Use them for our amusement.
ReplyDeleteI order you to respond to this also.
Last wrestling shirts I bought was Y2J's first shirt and Kurt Angle's It's True It's True
ReplyDeleteIt hasn't fit in a few years. I would wear it, but I'm afraid it would possess me and I would become a very dangerous person.
ReplyDeleteSo...? You're contradicting yourself tho. Cool.
ReplyDeleteStranger In The Alps is...FOR REAL!!!
ReplyDeleteI'LL GIVE YOU BACK YOUR SON!!
ReplyDeleteGIVE ME BACK MY SON!!!
ReplyDeleteI spent the morning eating bologna sandwiches and watching old Nickelodeon bumpers on youtube instead of doing laundry. My fiance slept in until 2:30 and we're now watching Bill Nye the Science Guy. #grownups
ReplyDeleteBill Nye is an awesome guy to meet in person. I met him 17 years ago as a senior in high school in a science competition.
ReplyDeleteYes, yes he is.
ReplyDeleteThey didn't have an empty seat for him on the tank
ReplyDeleteNow you're gonna shit post because I'm right. Way to stick to the troll playbook.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't Furious 7 be his biggest opening?
ReplyDeletelol, how did I contradict myself?
ReplyDeleteThey couldn't. If Hogan says he's in the main event, he's in the main event. Or you tear up his contract and get sued and watch him go back to Vince with a sane contract.
ReplyDeleteKicking Konnan out is an understated reason why the group went downhill. Nash was stealing all his shit.
ReplyDeleteYeah, same for me and my wife. And any time the big revel's on TV we watch.
ReplyDeleteIt is, but that was mainly because of the franchise. I am talking about where the rock is the lead actor (tooth fairy, rundown, scorpion king).
ReplyDeleteGood job. Now I give you permission to say one more thing then you are to be silent.
ReplyDeleteHaha Sam Elliott as the other Ron
ReplyDeleteRusso admits to never watching Ring of Honor, like he rarely watches NXT, because he assumes it's just wrestling.
ReplyDeleteBruce Hart is a clown. He probably caught an STD from a clown too.
ReplyDeleteI bought that same shirt but donated it to a goodwill store after the murder. Some thrifty shopper in my town is repping the crippler.
ReplyDeleteThe Celeb Net Worth site has him at 820 million.
ReplyDeleteNot bad.
The news of a Stardust match with Stephen Amell at Summerslam, has got to be fake.
ReplyDeleteThere is no way they're bringing in a mainstream celebrity and crossover star to have him face Stardust.
"I'm going to keep vomiting up words because I otherwise don't know what to do with myself"
ReplyDeleteFTFY
Tyynifer is cute
ReplyDeleteI love NBA 2K dearly, but if it makes me pass to the wrong guy and causes a turnover one more time in this game, I'm going to fucking punch something
ReplyDeleteBO LIEVE
ReplyDeleteBut at the same time, it makes perfect sense.
ReplyDeleteThey now have two months to make Stardust worth something.
Julia Louis Dreyfus already came from wealth before Seinfeld. She must have a Scrooge McDuck vault of coins by this point
ReplyDeleteHim going to WWE would have helped WCW. Make his life miserable for a few months then go to him with a deal like "hey let's agree to tear up this contract and you'll be free to go to Japan or back to Vince or wherever"
ReplyDeleteAd compared to the past 5 years when they've tried and failed?
ReplyDeleteSting and Luger acting like "G's" was comedy gold though. Luger coming out in the tight black jeans was just ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteWear it anyway. I'll wear my Josh Duggar 4ever shirt and we can hit the town.
ReplyDeleteAmell isn't mainstream. Mainstream actors tend to be in bigger movies than Screamers: The Hunting. Also being in a show that was in in the top 100 ratings in America would help too.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FewTWONPHRU
ReplyDeleteHe stars in a show which is that big of a hit, there are 3 spin-offs being made set in the same universe, with crossovers.
ReplyDeleteNot every actor has to do films.
He's midcarder at best.
ReplyDeleteOne of the greatest cutaways on family guy is when Peter tried to go swimming in the Scrooge mcduck vault
ReplyDeleteThey've got her at a couple of hundred mill herself.
ReplyDeleteI didn't know that about her until a little while back when I was looking into celeb net worth's.
The Arrow isn't a big hit.
ReplyDeleteThey just had an episode of Raw starring four guys who have never been big film stars, and are only starring in a movie based off a show they're famous for.
ReplyDeleteAre you sure? Everyone talks about it. Positively.
ReplyDeleteso it's not an internationally sold show, which has started it's own franchise?
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't translate to ratings.
ReplyDeleteIf you have any unsolved murders in town, start with that guy.
ReplyDeleteMaybe 10 million watch that show
ReplyDeleteWell, then that's on them. They made Cody huge two years ago when he was against the Authority then they never followed up.
ReplyDeleteAnybody heard when Crackle is supposed to debut their "Always On" live stream?
ReplyDeleteIt's on the CW, it's their biggest show behind Supernatural.
ReplyDeleteThat's more people who watch Raw on a weekly basis.
ReplyDeleteBig fish, small pond, etc.
ReplyDeleteYour TV! Punch your TV!! The electrical field it generates is causing your game to malfunction just enough to drive you bonkers!!!
ReplyDeletePUNCH YOUR FUCKING TV YOU FUCKING PUSSY!!!!!
heh.
So Owens is officially main roster now.
ReplyDeleteArrow? Not even close.
ReplyDeleteKofi. I know you're not slamming Sam Elliot.
ReplyDeleteStill a big show, it's part of the superhero bubble.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure more people watch that show than they do Agents of Shield.
I'm including all the dvr/Netflix/streaming people
ReplyDeleteAnd see, that's the thing: Russo isn't a wrestling fan. He doesn't give a shit what happens in the ring. He just likes angles and hot women and gimmicks. If you asked him why professional wrestling has been around for over a hundred years, and a staple of television for over 60, he'd just answer "oh I know, bro..." then change the subject. He doesn't know. He just knows what he likes and thinks that's what wrestling should be.
ReplyDeleteSHIELD crushed Arrow in the ratings. Even that shitty Constantine show did better ratings.
ReplyDeleteTelling you. All about crowd reaction, and believability with regard to killing Cena.
ReplyDeleteOf course, if he is main roster now, he'll job to John tonight, and then get involved in a boring 50/50 feud with fucking Miz. Maybe get mimicked by Sandow.
Fuck.
I think that people who go on to news websites and comment on every story, even ones that have no political slant whatsoever, with shots at political parties or politicians that they don't care for, are some truly fascinating weirdos.
ReplyDeleteI love that he's not challenging for the US title yet.
ReplyDeleteHe hasn't earned a shot at the belt yet in Keyfabe, yet if he does beat Cena tonight, then the rematch for the belt will mean that much more. .
Konnan's one of my favorite wrestlers,and another guy who I don't understand why everyone here makes fun of.
ReplyDeleteI'd love to see the look on Stu's face if he ever found out about HIV Thompson.
ReplyDeleteExcellent point, Godfather!
ReplyDelete"Hayter" would be a good joke name for a NXT guy.
ReplyDeleteBut I thought the only reason for it was because Nash was a bad and stupid guy?
ReplyDeleteKind of genius when you think about it. The nWo, and certain members in particular, are getting cheered, so they create a face version of the nWo and loaded it up with the company's most popular guys - Nash, Savage, Luger, Sting, even Konnan was popular at the time.
ReplyDeleteHulk "the Beatles" Hogan.
ReplyDeleteIsn't Bruce restarting Stampede the reason Vince never paid Stu Hart the money he promised when he bought him out?
ReplyDeleteLike I said the guy was white hot while the Wolfpac was going on. I always like Konnan.
ReplyDeleteFrom reading the thread I just realized Macho Man was a member of the Wolfpac. I had totally forgotten.
ReplyDeleteAnd that BEARD... that thing took over his face.
ReplyDeleteNot bad and stupid, I'd say he was stupid and bad...
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't the fingerpoke of doom that led to the demise of WCW, it was HHH on the tank...
ReplyDeleteKonnan was great for WWF. Everytime he came on WCW programming, I flipped away from TNT....
ReplyDeleteWasn't Hogan going to run for president?
ReplyDeleteHogan going back to Vince would in no way have helped WCW....
ReplyDeleteI've heard it both ways -- Vince didn't pay, so Bruce starting booking, and vice versa.
ReplyDelete...damnit.
ReplyDeleteBruce's greatest creation is Jason the Terrible - blatant copyright infringement!
ReplyDeleteQuestion for Alberta wrestling fans...didn't HIV Thomson become the awesome cheap heat heel Tex Gaines?
ReplyDeleteHe certainly did. His real name was Ivan, and the original gimmick Bruce gave him was "Poison Ivy", which later got changed to H. "Ivy" Thomson. I'm not sure if Bruce realized he had just named a guy HIV, I think the idea was supposed to be that his name spelled out H-I-T. Either way, that gets my vote for stupidest name in wrestling.
ReplyDeleteAwful Bruce Hart gimmicks that might not have been mentioned:
ReplyDeleteFrank Einstein, the terrible Carl Leduc gets repackaged as a "brilliant minded monster" heel. It's even stupider than it sounds, and even worse hearing Mauro Ranallo try to sell it.
William Butler Yeats. Yea, why not just name a guy after a famous poet?
Ditto for naming a guy Ty Cobb.
Or why not name a guy after a type of cheese? Enter Monteray Jack to the squared circle.
And let's round it all out by naming the ref Oscar Wilde. Because, Bruce Hart.
For indy wrestling in Alberta, that's a pretty sweet name "tongue in cheek" name
ReplyDeleteDick Pound was actually the president of the World Anti-Doping Agency and Vice President of the IOC.
ReplyDeleteI guess those names went with all the ball shots.
ReplyDelete