Here are my picks for the week:
Indianapolis (-2) at Houston
Baltimore (-1.5) at Cleveland
New Orleans (-6) at New York Jets
Last Week: 0-3
Season: 8-13
Indianapolis (-2) at Houston
Baltimore (-1.5) at Cleveland
New Orleans (-6) at New York Jets
Last Week: 0-3
Season: 8-13
Dude, all road favorites? You may win, but not without some rough sledding.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone wants a surefire winner...Dallas -10. Free money for everyone
ReplyDeleteSaw a stat that dogs are like 58% this year
ReplyDeletehttp://regressing.deadspin.com/nfl-statheads-are-losing-their-war-with-the-spread-her-1456918808/@kylenw
ReplyDeleteSome more on that...
Next season I am going to have to find a way to get interested in Football... between here and my office I have so many times when I just can't contribute anything... although I hear that my local team is of superior ability when compared to opposing team and shall triumph in the end.
ReplyDeleteI bet semi-significantly on the Chargers and the Colts this week. That's a practical guarantee that both teams are going to lose by a combined 40 points. Someday I'm going to learn to stop betting on the Chargers but today is not that day.
ReplyDeleteAlso took NE and Atl+9 but for small amounts. I have no idea what's going on with Atlanta this year but I know the Panthers shouldn't be giving 9 to anyone besides Jacksonville.
Yea, saw that. Deadspins a great site. Dont know if youre a regular gambler but read a great short book on the psychology of sports betting.
ReplyDeleteI don't bet at all, but I do enjoy trying to figure out the "logic" involved in lines.
ReplyDeleteI am starting to get curious... WHY are the Saints eating so many Delay of Game penalties these last couple weeks?
ReplyDeleteBecause they don't get a play off before the play clock runs out.
ReplyDeleteMy picks:
ReplyDeleteBrain lesions caused today: 206
Weeks the Redskins get to keep their name: 8
Home teams always get -3. Variables like west coast teams traveling east, teams on a dhort week, etc., all factor in.
ReplyDeletePeople often mistake lines for game predictions, the object of a line is to get equal money being placed on both sides, since vegas/bookmakers get a cut of any bet. They typically skew lines higher for "public betting teams" like Dallas, Yankees, etc., since they know those teams have tons of dan who will just bet on them.
Theres obviously alot more but these are the basics
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ReplyDeleteThe Panthers may want to start covering Tony Gonzalez. Kuechly getting exposed in the secondary.
ReplyDeleteSaints/Jets game is hard to call. Jets have an okay defense, but an okay defense is probably just good enough to keep the Saints from going over 30 points. The Jets sure as hell aren't scoring that many.
ReplyDeleteYea, Saints aernt the sane team on the road either. I liked NO but thought -6 was to high. Teased it down
ReplyDelete"although I hear that my local team is of superior ability when compared to opposing team and shall triumph in the end."
ReplyDeleteYou obviously don't live in Cleveland. Or Buffalo. Or Jacksonville.
No. My closest teams are Carolina and Atlanta... I have no idea how good or not good they are.
ReplyDeleteAtlanta is pretty decent but stinks this year for whatever reason, Carolina is OK and only going to get better.
ReplyDeleteYES! GO THEM!
ReplyDelete(I really need practice at this)
What you really need to learn is how hate your rivals. In this case, you need to make the words "fuck", "the", and "Saints" a part of your regular vocabulary.
ReplyDeleteHilarious!
ReplyDeleteCarolina is only going to get better when they can their coach and if Cam Newton can figure out how to perform in the clutch. I know the prevailing mathematical wisdom is that clutch isn't really real and that it's mostly noise in the system (and even when it IS real that it's usually someone else's fault besides just the QB), but Cam is rocking a 2-14 record in close games which even in a small sample size is something that makes you stand up and take notice.
ReplyDeleteAtlanta's problem is a combination of injuries and bad luck. Someone pissed off the football gods this year.
Oh yeah, I know pretty much all of that... I was talking more on a game-by-game basis. Like what does Vegas see that someone might not notice?
ReplyDeleteAn specific examples?
ReplyDeleteIt's what, his 3rd season? He'll be fine. They do have a shitty coach, but unless they do really well (like, divisional round of the playoffs or better well) he's gone at the end of the season.
ReplyDeleteDo what Adam said. I'm a Detroit boy, so I'll give you an example:
ReplyDeleteFuck the Packers
Ok let me give this a whirl... :: Clears throat so he can speak in a loud clear voice ::
ReplyDeleteFuck opposing sports team and their inferior football skills!
Newton will be fine. He played only 1 real college season, in a nonpro style offense. Hes got all the tangibles. He does run hot and cold though...seen glimpses of good things tho
ReplyDeleteAs a Niners fan, for me it's Fuck the Seahawks. Or historically, Fuck the Cowboys, Giants, and yes, Fuck the Packers.
ReplyDeleteNone at the moment. But I didn't take a close look at this week's lines.
ReplyDeleteAlmost there, but it should just be "Fuck opposing sports team". Actual football skills are irrelevant here.
ReplyDeleteOr he could be intelligent and make "Go", "Saints", and "Go" part of his vocabulary. Just feels like a safer bet these days.
ReplyDeleteSure, but if he's going to go that route he might as well just become a Miami Heat fan like my brother did.
ReplyDeleteThis lack of a rushing game in New Orleans is becoming quite irritating.
ReplyDeleteEDIT: Make that VERY irritating.
That's why "Fuck", "the", and "NBA" are part of my vocabulary.
ReplyDeleteWhy? I said Heat fan, not Lakers fan.
ReplyDeleteThe last two-three years, no difference between the two.
ReplyDeleteThrough 33 minutes, the Saints leading rusher is the FULLBACK. With seven yards.
ReplyDeleteBrees is 15-23, 230 yds, 2 TD/2 INT.
Rushing is 6 carries for 15 yards. (Collins 1-7, Ingram 2-5, Thomas 2-4, Brees 1-(-1))
:(
Fuck you Dallas/Saints!!!!
ReplyDeleteI feel sorry for you if you are a Cowboys fan. The vintage Romo 4th Quarter INT has become comical at this point... Vikings still might blow it, but Romo has done his part.
ReplyDeleteI know I'm jumping the gun, but the Saints feel cooked.
ReplyDeleteIngram is a bust. I remember all the Pats fans pissed off that we traded the pick that New Orleans used to draft him. I'd honestly take Bolden over Ingram at this point
ReplyDeleteRomo needs a sports psychologist or something. At this point it's not funny even to someone without a rooting interest.
ReplyDeleteThe whole backfield in New Orleans (minus Sproles) is a bust at this point. Thomas should have been let go instead of resigned, I can't fault them for letting Ivory go (although I wasn't a fan of the decision), Ingram's never broken out, and Cadet/Robinson haven't gotten a full chance.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the Saints have lost what feels like one too many players on the O-line... but generally the players who've left haven't come back to haunt us (Poor Carl Nicks... well, not poor but unlucky.)
At least he got it done later in the game. But still...
ReplyDeleteNovember 17th, 8PM, NBC:
ReplyDelete9-0 Chiefs vs 8-1/7-2 Broncos. That should be fun.
Romo has the highest qb rating IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL in the 4th quarter. Figure that one out
ReplyDeleteINT's can only do so much damage to that stat?
ReplyDeletePats cover -6 today? Need a win after going 0-1 on the 1 o clocks. Like them alot
ReplyDeleteChargers had 3 plays to get 1/4 of a yard to avoid overtime and couldn't do it. It's like...they just know when I have money on them. I'm a jinx this year in the NFL.
ReplyDeleteYet, for all his skills, I'm guessing all but about 5 or 6 teams would rather have someone else at the helm in the 4th. Unlike other positions and other sports, measuring a QB's worth is historically difficult. The Cowboys did win, though--Vikings came 5 yards short of first down to put the game away AND many more yards short on one of the worst hail mary passes I've ever seen by Ponder.
ReplyDeleteIm a huge Romo supporter, even though im a die hard eagles fan.
ReplyDeleteThink he gets a bad rap, the two that stick out to me is the INT he threw late in the 4th vs Washington in the last game of the year and a few he threw vs Detroit 3 years ago in the 4th.
When you have no running game, its really hard to close out games in the nfl. Hes throws it slmost 40 times a game. Hes good 95% of the time, that other 5% his brain just fucking explodes it seems like.
That is tough, especially with Vollmer out for the season. No idea how their O-Line will hold up
ReplyDeleteHow about the INT against Denver a few weeks back?
ReplyDeleteFuck, no Talib again
ReplyDeleteAnd of course the Chargers lose the coin toss in OT and don't touch the ball. If you're a Chargers fan, I'm sorry, your fate was sealed when I placed that bet on Thursday.
ReplyDeleteThat was some horrendous play calling. They had two timeouts and played like they had none
ReplyDeleteI give him a pass on that. He was like 25-35 with over 500 yds and 5 tds. Their D gave up 51. If its not for Romo they lose by 3tds
ReplyDeleteDidnt know vollmer was out. Im a little worried Ben and those fast wrs can move the ball steadily on that secondary
ReplyDeleteIts like the Norv Turner days!
ReplyDeleteNever bet on the Saints. They'll destroy good teams and get dominated by shit teams.
ReplyDeleteWe can do this!
ReplyDeleteAtlanta got by on good luck entirely too much the past 3-4 years anyway. Very few major injuries, virtually none to key players, and a ridiculous amount of victories aided by the craziest bounces. Under Mike Smith, they've been a team that relied on the last-second 40+ yard FG to win a lot of their games. Big reason why they've failed in the playoffs. Factor in injuries finally mounting up and you have a shitstorm.
ReplyDeleteThe Bills last week was a small aberration from the norm.
ReplyDeleteIt's not the RBs (though Ingram sure does suck on his own a lot), it's the OL. For whatever reason, the middle (LG, C, RG) have been below-average this season whereas in the past they were the strength. Too many defenders getting into the backfield on both passes and runs.
ReplyDeleteMore proof QB rating is a terrible stat.
ReplyDeleteNo chance that Roethlisberger doesnt gain at least 80 lbs when he retires
ReplyDeleteYep. But that's what happens when you give Tom Brady 3 chances to win the game (and 3 chances for the refs to not call a rear-naked choke on his LT) and don't show up against a good defense. How you let a team like the Jets with 1 decent offensive weapon beat you, I'll never know. But the Saints have always lost at least 1 game each season that makes you say WTF. Hopefully this is the only one.
ReplyDeleteI think this loss guarantees the Saints will play on the road during the playoffs at some point (assuming they get far enough).
Yeah, cost me $100. I now hope they lose every game the rest of the season. I'm vindictive like that.
ReplyDeleteI mean, some of that is hyperbole but at least once every year they just totally blow goats against some garbage team that has no business being in the game. And you never know which team it'll be. I imagine they have to be a ATS bettor's worst nightmare.
ReplyDeleteThat link I had earlier... Those four betting sites were 8-20 ATS in games the Saints were involved in (Choosing for OR against).
ReplyDeleteAnd a criminal record?
ReplyDeleteIts 21-0 bucs right now with 2 minutes left to play. Id still be seattle wins outright if I had too
ReplyDeleteThe Saints look like they could be a 1 seed, a 6 seed, or anywhere in between (except a 4... although if they lose to Dallas next week I could be talked into that one also) right now.
ReplyDeleteThe offense is WAY too one-dimensional for its own good, the defense is "bend but don't break" without the turnover potential needed to make it work best, and Hartley's becoming shaky.
This loss might light a fire under their asses, and they come out strong next week, kill Dallas, and (not quite) all is forgiven. Or they could sleepwalk again, and help Romo even more on his quest to shake off his 4th quarter rep.
Mike Glennon and Mike James are outplaying Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch. By a lot/a little. What the fuck?
ReplyDeleteOn the road their a different team. I still figured teasing them down to -.5 was safe. Fuck them
ReplyDeleteYea, wtf glennon. Sea -2 in turnover margin always hurts also. I bet they still win
ReplyDeleteI disagree on the D. The team came into today's game 4th in points allowed, 3rd in TO differential, 10th in sacks, and 12th in yards/game and more INTs than passing TDs allowed. They've also been very good at generating pressure and shutting teams down for large portions of the game. 10 of the Jets' 26 points came off turnovers and Folk had to hit 3 of his 4 FGs from 39+. They allowed only 339 yards, which isn't good by any means against the Jets offense, but they still kept them to a manageable amount.
ReplyDeleteToday's game was the exact opposite of what they've been doing. Today they couldn't tackle, pressure the QB, cause mistakes, force turnovers, or limit big plays. I think Rob got caught up too much in the Ryan vs. Ryan shit and forgot to coach. He's 0-5 vs. Rex now BTW.
And really, a team like the Jets is a team that can hurt the Saints. Very good defense that can bring pressure and cover in the secondary and a solid running game. And for 50% of his games, a QB who can avoid big mistakes. If that kinda team keeps the game close, they can win. Been that way since Payton came to town. That's how Cleveland (with Rob Ryan) won in the Dome in 2010. The problem is most teams can't do that consistently enough.
It's more the opposing defenses they face on the road more than the road itself. For instance, Chicago in '06, San Fran in '11, Tampa in Week 2, New England 2 weeks ago, and the Jets today. Pressure defenses that can cover are difficult regardless of location; then throw in crowd noise and in some cases injuries to skill players. They also have to go to Seattle in a few weeks. Lots of tough defenses on the schedule.
ReplyDeleteGreg Schiano caomes off as an angry gym teacher.
ReplyDeleteHes SUCH a douche. I live in Tampa and there are so many stories about what a cock he is...
ReplyDeleteApparently a former buc player has taken inner city kids to bucs practices, just to watch, as a reward for getting good grades...hes been doing it for years apparently. Schiano apparently didnt like this and kicked the kids out of the practice. Think I read this one on deadspin, but have heard others just like this
Browns up 14-3 on Baltimore. This team just doesn't want a franchise QB. ROLL OVER, Brownies!
ReplyDeleteDexter Jackson. Was told they were a distraction. Makes you wonder how they handle opposing crowds if a small group of little kids are a distraction.
ReplyDeleteAnd I think Gerald McCoy said this week he was yelled at by coaches for helping an opposing player to his feet.
I think the worst thing you could be is a Schiano Man.
Normally, I'd say the Eagles shouldn't feel comfortable with a 2 TD lead but since it's against the Raiders, that all goes out the window.
ReplyDeleteWow, no wonder the locker room hates his guts.
ReplyDeleteYep, that story was on Deadspin a few days ago. I'm shocked he hasn't been fired yet... maybe nobody else wants the job now.
ReplyDeleteThat's poor, but not horrendous IMO. Horrendous would be no tip at all.
ReplyDeleteHogan/McMahon II?
ReplyDelete10% is pretty bad IMO. Horrendous/terrible. Think of dropping 4 bucks on a 40 buck meal. Id be pissed.
ReplyDeleteWith logic like that, no wonder people don't tip.
ReplyDeleteI drop 20% minimum, but I'm not a harsh judge on that.
ReplyDeleteMainly because I think the whole system is fucked up, and should be more like Europe (good wage, NO tipping)
I guess Cena just slipped my mind, possibly because I think Cena-Undertaker is a lock for WM30, but Cena-Hogan would make the most sense for Hogan's return match.
ReplyDeleteYou think 10% is good?
ReplyDeleteIf Hogan can actually work a match I'm going Hogan - Cena.
ReplyDeleteConsidering I'm a poor, jobless college student.
ReplyDeleteYes.
Terry Bollea........REST IN PEACE!-Mark Callaway
ReplyDeleteand Bill O'Reilly will PWN Johnny Rocket's sorry ASS! then
ReplyDeleteEverybody know that it is Triple H so Hogan can do the job back after Hunter put him over.
ReplyDeleteIm anti anything besides Cena/Taker, and think compared to that Cena/Hogan isnt as big of a draw, but it would be interesting. Cena would get booed out of the building...
ReplyDeleteThe MORE interesting option IMO, would be Taker/Hogan..."Ive done everything in this business brother, now its time to end the streak brother." Nobody would buy that hell break it but the spectacle would be the shit
Agreed. Let the season play out for the Yucks and January 15th the Glazers can bring back BANDITBALL! to Tampa Bay
ReplyDeleteCena-Hogan would be interesting just because of the promos leading up to it. Would Cena actually no-sell everything Hogan says like he did with the Rock, or would he go into serious mode?
ReplyDeleteHogan going over Punk and Bryan in a 3 way...fucking book it!
ReplyDeleteI would argue that Hogan's best matches, with the exception of The Ultimate Warrior at WM6, have been with smaller guys.
ReplyDeleteHow about Hogan with other legends (Flair, Foley, etc) against the Shield in the latter's final match as a team? Maybe WWE can do an angle where they will blame each other for their loss at 'Mania.
ReplyDeleteThats a terrible character trait
ReplyDeleteHHH already got that win back on an episode of SD a few weeks after Backlash '02.
ReplyDeleteThe Eagles are about to put up 60.
ReplyDeleteHe already got his win back, on an episode of SmackDown.
ReplyDeleteThis being said, Id still be pretty surprised if he worked a 1-1 match at WM
ReplyDeleteI'm probably the only guy who has no idea what the "one match we all know about" is - could someone just spell it out for me? =)
ReplyDeleteThe only Hogan match worth anything at all is versus Cena, but the only Cena WM match that I'm the least bit interested in would be Cena/Taker.
ReplyDeleteInteresting - how did the WWF magazine describe the turn? What exactly led to it?
ReplyDeleteHogan vs. Kofi Kingston, brother!
ReplyDeleteAiden English is above such buffoonery.
ReplyDeleteI like that, although it looks like the Shield will break up before Mania :/
ReplyDeleteCena - Hogan is no buys at this point. Hogan's double his age and looks it. Although it would be amusing if they did it, Cena had to bump like mad to make it watchable, and then got hurt.
ReplyDeleteUgh, I'm not buying Cena / Taker. I'm thoroughly in the Taker / Brock camp, though I'm unsure who bumps in that match.
ReplyDeleteJust Cena / Taker seems too...clashing in styles and personalities in a bad way. How do they feud? I worry it would devolve into a really bad episode of Looney Tunes where that big red thing harrasses bugs bunny.
No one remembers that.
ReplyDeleteReigns is going to have a rocket strapped to him.
ReplyDeleteI love Hulk / Shawn for the over the top bumping. Love. I wish that match was 60 minutes long.
ReplyDeleteSerious question....whats the attraction of Brock/Taker? It seems like a popular concept, im trying to understand.
ReplyDeleteReally? Hogan's opponent? You can't see him?
ReplyDelete(I know you're kidding, I just wanted to make that joke)
A rocket set straight for the nuclear blast proof bunker labeled HHH?
ReplyDeleteReigns has tall and muscle, he can break through the bunker.
ReplyDeleteThis is how I would book Hogan in Wrestlemania:
ReplyDeleteHave the Real Americans come out and talk some trash, disrespect the crowd, etc, maybe beat up some babyfaces (Zami Zayn would be perfect for this role).
Just when things look bad, 'Real American' blares out. Hogan walks out, talking about how he's the real American, etc. Quick legdrops on them, some poses for the crowd, the end.
LOL! Actually I wasn't joking (I thought maybe Cena but it didn't strike me as such a sure thing...Hogan is so old now that it's not really a Rock-Hogan WM 18 level thing). Joke was still good tho. =)
ReplyDeleteI think Hogan tagging with Cena is more likely than a 1on1 match.
ReplyDeleteNo. Just no.
ReplyDelete1992 seems to have been the victim of the most random changes, myths, and speculations to their big shows in one calendar year for a time when only 4 or 5 PPV's were held..
ReplyDeleteWM 8 - The rumored Hogan/Flair Main Event is really Hogan/Sid, which then becomes Hogan's Retirement Match, which then features the return of the ULLLLLTIMATE Warrior.
Slam - Davey Boy wins in his home country, when "alternate plans" for a US location had Michaels winning in a Ladder Match. Also, Warrior was rumored to turn heel, but vetoed.
Series - A lot. Perfect in for Warrior, Bret and Shawn win the two singles titles when match was originally listed as non-title with neither being Champions, Davey Boy defending IC Title against Mountie is scrapped with both men fired/quit.
God I hope this is true. I don't care if what role his is in, and you guys can call me a mark or whatever but I just want Hogan to come home
ReplyDeleteI do.
ReplyDeleteYOU HAD ONE JOB, TAMPA!
ReplyDeleteBook it at a flea market, just so we can finally get to the bottom of who can draw where
ReplyDeleteI agree with you man. Hogan should retire in WWE and then call it a day.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that was already Wrestlemania 21.
ReplyDeleteMr. America vs the Real Americans?
ReplyDeleteGiven how in bad shape Hogan is and still wanting to have one more run, why hasn't he done DDPYoga yet?
ReplyDeleteIt's a funny story. He was actually offered yoga first, but he didn't return the call in time, and DDP accepted the deal. He got stuck with Hulkegels.
ReplyDeleteHe might be something once they send him to the performance center to learn WWE style and give him a new name.
ReplyDeleteBilly Kidnam, guest ref.
ReplyDeleteFrom Tampa, Florida here is Terry Thomas!
ReplyDeleteI think it's kind of a similar styles / they like to beat the shit out of things vibe? You have the guy who represented the WWE through it ALL, and a guy who left and come back when he had nothing left, and is popular *if not more popular* than the Undertaker in the grand scheme of things.
ReplyDeleteLooks like we will.
ReplyDeleteMy god, Polamalu looks about finished.
I want Hollywood Hogan and a new nWo. Because why not?
ReplyDeleteAnd beautiful blue eyes and a gorgeous mane of hair...sigh...
ReplyDeleteHHH lost at his own game. He's always the guy giving wins back when everyone got past the point of caring. The only time the "long buildup" ever worked was Backlash 2000.
ReplyDeleteFair enough. I wouldnt not watch it...just dont see the appeal most others do in it.
ReplyDeleteBrock and Undertaker had a staredown after one of Brock's fights. IIRC it was after he lost the title to Cain. Brock is walking back to the locker room and Taker (with Michelle McCool looking on) gets in his face and says "want to do this?"
ReplyDeleteThere's never been any explanation as to why that happened or what it means but UFC people thought Taker was going into business for himself and trying to draw Brock back into having a match against him.
The attraction of the match would be Vince thinking this would be some kind of a draw to UFC fans who made a huge deal of this 3-4 years ago or however long it was.
Good thing I picked up Riley Cooper in the Yahoo league this week.
ReplyDeleteYea, Ive seen that clip. Just dont see it having any real appeal towards building a WM match...im mot eveb sure how much theyd want to use that on wwe tv either.
ReplyDeleteAnother thing about this...IF Hogan wrestles a match, does that decrease the chances that HBK wrestles also. I I give HBK less then 5% chance of working mania, I think that goes down to almost nill if Hogan works it. Think people, think!
ReplyDeleteAnd the comments reveal that we don't quite know "what that woud be". Shawn? UT? Cena? It's funny to read the sudden flurries of excitement about the kind of booking that destroyed WCW.
ReplyDeleteMelina vs. Alicia Fox with special referee Hulk Hogan.
ReplyDeleteMan I sure wish Bruno sammartino would have came back and wrestled Austin in 1997. That would have done so much for the wwe and Austin. I wonder why they didn't do that.....oh yeah it's fucking stupid.
ReplyDeleteSTEVE AUSTIN
ReplyDeleteCAIN
ReplyDeleteCalled it.
ReplyDeleteSeattle can eat a dick.
ReplyDeleteThey can do Lesnar - Taker if Cena's working with Hogan. Its probably way too late to feed off their UFC controversy. However Hogan - Cena and Lesnar - Taker on the same card would still be massive buys.
ReplyDeleteYoga can only do so much after that much wear and tear and that many surgeries/joint replacements.
ReplyDeleteHogan is a bigger name than Sammartino ever was, and will generate revenue even if the match is terrible.
ReplyDeleteAnyone else find it depressing that WrestleMania 8 was supposed to be Hogan's farewell match?
ReplyDeleteI figured he would do that with the Ultimate Warrior.
ReplyDeleteSide note: I still think Warrior should manage Ryback.
What the fuck year is it?
ReplyDeleteSeriously. Shirtless, broken down , 60+ year old dudes in competitive matches against guys in their 20s are not a way to draw in new fans. No matter how much nostalgia they bring.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't matter, Hulkamania will live forever.
ReplyDeletethread jack homie: I know I said I wasn't going to Raw tomorrow, but they discounted the upper deck seats. So a brotha going to be in the house.
ReplyDeleteIf Hogan can still walk, tear off the shirt, maybe take a couple bumps and do the Hulk Up, I'm cool.
ReplyDeleteIt would be something for them to do with the midcard.
ReplyDeleteI honestly think that they could put almost anything on and WM will do whatever WM does buyrate wise.
ReplyDeleteAnd even if that card did draw buys, zero of them would be from me.
Hogan vs Cesaro. Big swing.
ReplyDeleteExcept he can't bump or do the leg drop anymore.
ReplyDeleteHogan's days as a draw are long over. See: TNA
ReplyDeleteYes, Hogan vs. Austin.
ReplyDeleteThis had better not bump Aksana vs. my tongue off the card.
ReplyDeleteAustin, guy.....Austin.
ReplyDeleteThat's the same argument iced to explain his presence on TNA. How'd that work out?
ReplyDeleteIt's like the polio virus. Just when when you think we're eradicated it, a disaster strikes and it comes back.
ReplyDeleteHe can't take bumps and nobody wants to see him shirtless.
ReplyDeleteWill all the problems they have had with Older Wrestlers taking Punishment like Steamboat and Lawler I can't imagine they would want Hogan in the ring who is held together by bubblegum and duct tape.
ReplyDeleteThe people hoping Hogan returns must be the same guys who want to see 50 year old Michael Jordan return to the NBA. If you guys miss him so much why not just watch DVDs or YouTube videos of him from the 80's when he could actually wrestle a match without embarrassing himself? I am not a knee jerk Hogan hater and I have respect for all he's accomplished, but he's 60' years old with back problems. Let it go.
ReplyDeleteDepressing sure, but mostly disappointing.
ReplyDeleteKICK...WHAM...PEDIGREE...Hulkamania is finally dead.
ReplyDeleteGood Lord, they can't seriously expect him to perform in the ring, can they? It was a fucking JOKE watching him stumble around in 2003, after guys like Shelton Benjamin and Brock Lesnar made them look like blind, drunk slugs. Ten years and God only knows how many surgeries later and they're going to parade him out there again?
ReplyDeleteSeriously, how can they book Kofi and Ziggler to do athletic matches with insane bumps, then go to Hulk Hogan who can't fall down without breaking something and can barely throw a punch, let alone the challenging and risky Leg Drop!
Even if we're lucky enough to see a broken down Austin in the ring with him, what could they possibility do for twenty minutes besides kicking, stomping and punching each other? The answer is nothing.
There is only one match for Hogan? Why he must be coming back to give Fandango the rub, and put him over.
ReplyDeleteI was watching No Way Out 2002 and Hennig was bombed and hilarious doing the WWE New York bit.
ReplyDeleteThe crowd was fucking INSANE for Savage in that match. Honestly, the more I see Savage from that era, the more I realize HE should've still been "The Guy", not Bret. He was WAY more over. But Vince had this idea that Savage was done or something, and that was that.
ReplyDeleteIt was a weird Survivor Series, too- they'd dropped the unique concept of the PPV save for one survival-style match, Bret was an untested champion against a guy who was NOWHERE CLOSE to Main Event-ready (Michaels was a good worker, but had zero credibility, only being a new IC Champ himself), and the biggest stars were in a Tag Team match featuring the now-non-Champ Savage, a newly-face untested Mr. Perfect, the unseated Champ Flair, and "rookie" Razor Ramon (who also lacked cred). It's a miracle that PPV was as good as it was.
Um...Hennig was NOT out for a few months with a bad back. I distinctly remember him working an IC title match with Kerry Von Erich at my first house show (May '91 at Nassau Coliseum). Show opened with a battle royal for an IC title shot that night (won by Von Erich). Only other announced match was Warrior-UT, and all the other matches came from guys in the battle royal (Bret-Roma, Bulldog-Barbarian, Duggan-Kato and Hercules-Koko are the ones I remember).
ReplyDeleteA Hogan match from TNA in 2011. Overbooking and two old men gigging themselves because they can't build drama from wrestling. Add two years and no blading, and ask people to spend WM money on it. No thanks.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw2Ud5piw0A
That Berzerker-Undertaker feud is REALLY underrrated. Zombie Undertaker had his best matches with the Berzerker.
ReplyDeleteThere's no way Steve does it.
ReplyDeleteExcept for Bubba and his wife
ReplyDeleteWWE might as well and represent all their greatest eras in one match. Bruno vs. Backlund vs. Hogan vs. Bret vs. Shawn vs. Austin vs. Rock vs. Cena in a Greatest Era of All Time Match. Hogan can do no work and still get the pinfall.
ReplyDeleteHey now, Hogan and Sting had a combined age of 110 in 2011.
ReplyDeleteHogan vs. Austin in 2013 would have a combined age of *only* 109. So you know, it would be different. I'm sure one of them at least has some cartilage left in one of his knees.
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ReplyDeletePerhaps if Hogan returns in WM30 we can relive it in video game, by the same guys who made NBA Old School.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=714haGstoHk
He was out from August 91 until November 92. Not sure what you're thinking of.
ReplyDeleteIf that's the case, Skip Bayless wants to see Hulk wrestle at WM XXX.
ReplyDeleteThat wouldn't surprise me at all.
ReplyDelete