(I figured this repost was apropos tonight, as they produced one of the worst, most mean-spirited and spiteful DVDs they’ve ever done and then turned around and put him in the Hall of Fame just before he died.)
The SmarK Rant for the Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior
Well, you knew this was coming one day.
I should preface this by noting that I was long a fan of the Warrior, not because of his in-ring work, but because he had a weird charisma and attitude that appealed to me as a fan. Sure, once he went nuts in the 90s and turned into a self-parody the thrill was gone, but I was with him up until about 1992 or so. Maybe it was just nice to have someone besides Hogan booked like a superman, I dunno.
- Jim Ross starts out by talking about the earlier era of overly-muscled guys in the 80s, as though it was a long-lost time where that sort of thing doesn't happen anymore.
- We quickly get a trip from UWF to World Class via Jim Ross's narration. We get some rare footage of Warrior wrestling in the Boston Garden as Dingo Warrior early in his WWF run, but Vince quips "What kind of warrior is a DINGO Warrior?" and thus they change him into their own character -- he was more than the Road Warriors or the Modern-Day Warrior, and thus he was the Ultimate Warrior.
- Of course, Steve Lombardi has to comment, because that's his only job these days. They could probably make a DVD about Frank Gotch and have him on there commenting.
- Jim Johnston talks about writing the music for the Warrior, back when all his music wasn't generic crap. Although to be fair, it sounded almost exactly like the music given to the Rockers just a year later.
- Ted Dibiase and Bobby Heenan both say that Warrior was all entrance and no meat in the ring. Well, duh. Guys like Jericho and Edge are much quicker to forgive that, because they were fans at the time.
- JR and Dibiase completely bury the Hercules-Warrior feud, noting that they were booked short so they didn't stink up the house. This leads to a discussion of the matches with Bobby Heenan where Bobby would get stuffed into the weasel suit.
- The newer guys have a funny discussion about the whereabouts of Parts Unknown. Oh come on, it's not like Warrior was the first guy to be introduced from there. Heenan notes that he was just too stupid to know where he was from. Ouch.
- Onto Honky Tonk Man, and his epic classic against Warrior at Summerslam 88. This was probably one of the few perfectly booked and executed storylines that the WWF ever produced. After 18 months of Honky escaping with his title, Warrior did the equivalent of cutting the Gordian Knot by simply ignoring the previous game plans of everyone else who overthought the problem.
- Everyone talks about the cartoonish nature of the Warrior character and how he symbolized the excess of the 80s. This leads to a discussion of his crazed, rambling promos. JR notes that they needed subtitles. Hey, it's not like Hogan didn't cut a zillion nonsensical promos about coming down from the mountain and saving humanity with the power of Hulkamania or whatever. And time has shown that Warrior is a smart guy when he wants to be. Jericho's "His interviews left me quizzical" is pretty funny. Although again, he notes that they didn't mean anything, but they sounded cool, so it worked. In fact, I'd put some of them as ringtones on my cell phone. Warrior's hilarious promo about Hogan at Wrestlemania VI is recited word-for-word by Christian, although sadly they don't show Hogan's equally bizarre and rambling response.
- So onto Wrestlemania V, as Rick Rude breaks through from undercard joke to legitimate threat by beating Warrior for the first time. Most people credit Rude for bringing Warrior up to a working level where he could at least hang with the people at the same level of popularity he was enjoying.
- Onto the feud with Andre, which turns him into a main eventer by putting him over quickly and convincingly. The guys speculate that Andre wasn't a big fan of Warrior and thus wanted quick matches so he could get out of there faster. Heenan tells a story about Warrior screwing up Andre's standard clothesline-into-the-ropes spot, and thus earning a shot in the face from Andre. That's pretty funny. Then we get a weird clip where Warrior slams him, and Andre basically no-sells the splash by swatting him away. Dibiase just buries him, talking about how he didn't appreciate anything he was given. Yeah, like that couldn't apply to LOTS of guys who were pushed just as hard. Sid, anyone?
- Onto Royal Rumble 90, with the historic collision of Hogan and Warrior that was sadly glossed over here. That was HUGE, man. When they hit the ring against each other, people were freaking out, because no one was even vaguely expecting that they'd go there. So the title v. title match at Wrestlemania VI is set up. Everyone talks about how no one knew what the final result would be, which made it all the more dramatic when Warrior won. Everyone then buries the guy, saying that the match was better than expected because he took instruction well. And Hogan back then buried him as well, stealing his spotlight on the night of his biggest move up the card.
- So Warrior was now supposed to lead the company into the next century, but that of course didn't happen. Instead of the beginning, it proved to be the peak of Warrior's career. Steve Lombardi defends him, saying that he improved hugely after winning the title and drew well.
- Dibiase gives him a backhanded compliment, noting that he never had any problem with him in the ring and they had the best matches they could have had. This feud is paid off with a match on The Main Event against Dibiase, where Randy Savage attacks Warrior and begins the downfall of Warrior's career. This leads to a promo from Savage where you have to ask how they could criticize the Warrior's bizarre promos while including one of Savage's. Thankfully Jerry Lawler points out the dueling insanity of their pre-match promos.
- Hogan notes that Savage was a detail freak who mapped out every situation, and thus made it easy to have matches with him. No wonder the Savage-DDP feud produced good matches so often. This of course leads to Warrior beating Savage in the best match of Warrior's career at Wrestlemania VII. Then we jump back a bit, with Slaughter talking about his match at Rumble 91, where he won the WWF title.
- So we move onto Summerslam 91, as Warrior teams up with Hogan against Slaughter and Sheik, and Warrior holds up Vince for some amount of money before he'll go out there. Hogan apparently tells Sheik to break his leg, but Vince calls him off. So Vince agrees to pay him, because his responsibility is to present what he advertises. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Now there's the best unintentional comedy line of the year. Anyway, Warrior chases the heels back to the dressing room, and Vince fires him as soon as he gets back there. This whole discussion about professionalism and not holding up people for more money is so funny when HULK FREAKIN HOGAN is held up as the symbol of selflessness in that regard. Needless to say, everyone is disgusted, because moral standards in the WWF were so high.
- So Warrior returns at Wrestlemania VIII, shocking the hell out of everyone. Including the guys backstage. So this leads to discussions of Warrior's supposed death and replacement with a new Ultimate Warrior. This was one of the big running rumors in the early days of RSPW, by the way.
- So this leads us to the epic Papa Shango feud, leading to Warrior vomiting up his lunch and bleeding black. JR casually notes that the feud wasn't "an artistic success." To say the least. Well, at least Papa Shango recovered and gained his dignity back by becoming a pimp.
- Everyone chimes in and notes that Warrior loved the fame and money, but not the business. Yeah, pot, kettle, black. Bruce Pritchard notes that Warrior did not leave in 1992 because of a feud with Nailz, it was because of their stringent drug policy. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is great stuff.
- So now they riff on him changing his name to Warrior legally, which Vince thinks is to get around intellectual property lawsuits. Hey, Rick Rude changed his name legally to "Ravishing Rick Rude," so again it's not like this kind of thing is without precedent.
- Four years later, Warrior returns to help a desperate WWF, reeling against WCW. This of course bombs badly, because Warrior was still nuts and the business was changing fast. Fans had also been burned too many times. This allows HHH to call Warrior "unprofessional." You can't buy comedy like this.
- Really stretching now, Jerry Lawler complains about Warrior wearing a baseball cap and thus ruining the impact of their match. Uh, yeah.
- So Warrior is fired again halfway through 1996 for multiple no-shows. I love Vince's logic here, as he's like "He told us his dad died. And yeah, that was true, but..."
- This leads us to talk about Renegade, who they found doing a Warrior imitation at a high school gym and then was brought into WCW and given a big push. And then when that failed, WCW brought the real thing into the promotion in 1998. Hogan notes that Warrior did the "ultimate no-no" by bringing up Hogan's loss to the Warrior. Like this is such a horrible thing to do or something. What are they gonna do, say Hogan won the match? Bischoff and Mean Gene bury the initial segment, saying that the ratings dropped during it and the whole thing was horrible. And of course they didn't bring him in just so Hogan could sooth his own ego. That's CRAZY talk. Bischoff now agrees that the eventual match was one of the worst in history. It took 7 years of perspective for him to come to that conclusion? Truly this is some insightful shit, man. Hogan jokes about the botched fireball spot and everyone totally buries the match. But it was all Warrior's fault.
- We finish off with the big burial push, as everyone piles on with the hatred, making fun of his speaking tours. The newer guys bring things up a bit, though.
Man, what a hatchet-job this thing turned into. Although the first half was a pretty fair look at his career with a few good-natured jabs thrown in, the second half was a bunch of hypocritical bullshit, and no wonder Warrior flipped out and posted an angry retort. He was totally buried, almost to the point of slander on a couple of occasions (and in fact I believe he has proved in court that he didn't fail any drug tests in 1992) and basically given no chance to respond to any of it. I mean, criticizing guys for loving the fame and money of the business instead of giving back? HHH married the owner's daughter, for pete's sake! They were literally making up stuff to razz the guy on by the end, because they couldn't fill 90 minutes otherwise. And I'm not even a FAN of the guy anymore, and I attack his crazy views and commentaries as much as anyone, but this was harsh even by my standards.
I think this is a must-see DVD, not really because of the content so much as because it reveals something about the character of the people who would agree to sink to the level of those attacking Warrior long after pumping millions of dollars into his character. This DVD actually made me feel sorry for the Warrior. This is sour grapes at its worst and a fascinating look at what bitterness and spite can accomplish. Especially since after slagging the guy for loving money for an hour and a half, they produce a DVD specifically intended to make money off the trademarked name of someone who won that name from them in court, fair and square. And of course they don't mention THAT on the DVD.
I'm not gonna cover the bonus matches, because I've reviewed them all before, unless you're really desperate to know my thoughts on Warrior v. Terry Gibbs from 1987.
Highly recommended.
That DVD needs to be scrubbed from existence. What a pile of shit.
ReplyDeleteAnd I wonder if you'll do another 180 if it is confirmed a suicide.
ReplyDeleteWWE: Open mouth, insert two feet and two hands.
ReplyDeleteThe only semi-enjoyable thing about that dvd was seeing the younger guys talk about him in a way that showed inside they were fans. Christian especially. I'm at least glad he got to tell his "wwe-approved" version of events on a new set, which i'm glad I picked up a few days ago at Wal-Mart. I have a feeling they will not be as easy to get now.
ReplyDeleteUnless it was a murder/suicide ala Benoit, why would that cause him to do a 180?
ReplyDeleteYou ninja'd me, but yeah, this. I don't think its Benoit unless he went crazy on civilians, because they mentioned "sruvived by his wife and kids" meaning they called it in most likely.
ReplyDeleteYou know, for years I have read SO many guys online tear into Warrior, rip into him far more than this DVD did and suddenly WWE is mocked for saying what the IWC has said for a while. I agree pretty bad (especially now) but mild compared to others, is there anyone who HASN'T mocked those crazy promos he pulled and getting blown up fast? Just seems far more hypocritical for the same people who have trashed Warrior so much going "oh, WWE went way too far here."
ReplyDeleteI think we can all take a sigh of relief that he didn't pull a Chris Benoit.
ReplyDeleteBut if you watch his promo on Raw, it certainly feels like a suicide note.
To be fair, Hogan takes the blame on it for how he helped screw up the Havoc match.
ReplyDeleteTJ: According to TMZ, Warrior collapsed walking to his car with his wife. Later, was pronounced dead at the Hospital.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but we're not the ones selling DVDs based on him and thus making huge profits off that trash talking.
ReplyDeleteNo offense, Scott but you did a HELL of a lot of trash talking in your various books and you made some profit on that.
ReplyDeleteI think it's funny that the WWE calls all the promos rambling and crazy yet this was the guy they chose for Hogan to pass the torch to...
ReplyDeletePlus the fact that around the time this DVD came out Warrior was making his dumbshit comments making it hard to defend him.
ReplyDeleteExactly, in 2005, EVERYONE was trashing Warrior as a total nutcase, not like WWE were picking on an innocent target.
ReplyDeleteHypocrisy reigns supreme among the favorites of the IWC. Which made Benoit being the biggest scumbag of them all so ironic.
ReplyDeleteWarrior died far too young. Whether that was from a heart attack(brought on by steroid abuse, no doubt) or whatever.
But the flip-flopping, hindsight antics here just make your eyes roll.
The books weren't about Warrior or titled "Crazy things Warrior did".
ReplyDeleteMy buddy who's a cop said from his experience with coroner's reports it's most likely a heart attack or stroke from what they reported. Given Warrior's steroid history, I'd guess heart attack. I'm just glad it's not a suicide.
ReplyDeleteNo but in "Tonight in This Very Ring," you openly state that you hope Vince McMahon burns in Hell for causing Owen Hart's death. Just saying, you did make some money from some books where you trashed a lot of guys who may not have fully deserved it.
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like he had an idea things were coming to an end, odd as it does.
ReplyDeleteIt also explains why I never got my Warrior Workout Starter Kit!!!
I don't even know what one argument has to do with the other.
ReplyDeleteNot really apropos of this post, but why are people using Warrior's death as an opportunity to speak out about things or throw jabs at fans? Is it just how some people cope--to lash out? Hopefully, we get nothing but heartfelt thoughts and prayers, coping advice, and Warrior memories.
ReplyDeleteJust HHH....
ReplyDeleteBecause people are assholes.
ReplyDeleteWWF were the ones pushing Warrior back in the day. For them to 180 and bash the guy was a disgusting display of sour grapes.
ReplyDeleteWonder if a Bret will take back what he said in his book?
ReplyDeleteHe just wants attention.
ReplyDeleteWell they pushed him because they wanted to try out a new top guy. Didn't work so they went back to Hulk.
ReplyDeleteUm, he made a good point. Doesn't excuse this DVD but Scott and the IWC in general have said much, much worse things about Warrior even if they never made a profit of it.
ReplyDeleteIts sad, but man, there would've been like 5 other ways he could've gone out that would've been 48 times worse for his legacy and the WWE in general. At least people likely won't brain bleach Warrior now.
ReplyDeleteThe more I think about it, didn't Scott have a paragraph or 2 about how crazy Warrior got in "Wrestling's Made Men" along with Savage and Chyna?
ReplyDeleteright there with you, man…
ReplyDeleteThat Wrestlecrap Book of List part of Warrior is going to feel so disrespectful now.
ReplyDeleteThe point is they wanted him to be top level in the early 90s, then brought him back in 96. They knew his style and it connected with fans, yet years later they make an entire DVD hoping to make him look like a joke.
ReplyDeleteAs ABey has pointed out, it's not like this DVD is the only thing out there trashing Warrior, loads of books have guys taking shots at him and he was a favorite target of Wrestlecrap for YEARS so again, to say WWE was being absolutely unfair to him is pressing it a bit. Again, doesn't excuse how harsh it was but still light compared to so many.
ReplyDeleteTrue. The garment ripping over this DVD that was just "hey Internet, all those stories you've read are true and here's the stars reciting them for your pleasure" had gone overboard for a long time before Warrior died. Now it'll be even louder.
ReplyDeleteIt's been a long time since I read the book and don't have it handy. What did he say, again?
ReplyDeleteHe was involved in a variety of really embarassing moments, as any dead person ever has done.
ReplyDeleteIf it was true, why would he. I'd hope he'd defend it if that were the case, preferably with tears in his eyes.
ReplyDeleteHey Scott, will you review the blu ray now, too? Most of it's stuff you've covered several times, but Warrior gave some insight before matches, too. And the blu ray seems to have some interesting extras, like a six man involving him and Legion of Doom against Demolition.
ReplyDelete*British Bulldogs against Demos.
ReplyDeleteThere's a big difference between giving your opinion about a guy and putting a big DVD production behind an entire burial of him.
ReplyDeleteIt's fair to say Warrior had many, many flaws as a person. But then again we ell do.
ReplyDeleteAnd I agree. I would like to see a review. I really enjoyed it myself.
ReplyDeleteThe usual, everyone carried him, he didn't see the sick fan, was a premadona, stuff like that.
ReplyDeleteWhoops, right. I got confused by the 1990 period when I think that was a regular house show running.
ReplyDeleteWhat makes this stand out to me is that WWE usually doesn't go out of its way to trash anyone who either made them money or is/was widely considered a fan favorite. Even the fans/bloggers who made fun of Warrior in later years, many of them were Warrior fans back in the day. WWE will usually put a positive spin on even the worst of their product, so to go all the way with making a movie tearing down not only Warrior the character but Warrior the man just seemed extra bitter.
ReplyDeleteYeah and you didn't have to buy DVD. WWE made it pretty clear what the tone was.
ReplyDeleteHell, I bought it at the time because it was too tempting not to. Much as I grew up on Warrior, his shine also wore off on me like it did with Scott. Plus, it had some great, classic matches included that I grew up on.
ReplyDeleteSo looks like the theory that the insane energy of the weekend may have overworked him is true. Still makes the timing and his RAW speech eerie in its coincidence.
ReplyDeleteThat set was sold out at my local Best Buy before, sure to be a rush to get it now.
ReplyDeleteBut aren't you profiting from all of the extra traffic you are generating with Ultimate Warrior content tonight?
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