SuperBrawl
1999
Date: February 21, 1999
Location: Oakland Arena, Oakland, California
Attendance: 15,880
Commentators: Mike Tenay, Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan
Date: February 21, 1999
Location: Oakland Arena, Oakland, California
Attendance: 15,880
Commentators: Mike Tenay, Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan
Reviewed by Tommy Hall
We've
been building to this one for awhile now and to WCW's credit, I'm
kind of interested in how the show goes. The feuds have been well
built and if there's ever been a night that can turn WCW around
before the abyss, it's this one. Everything is in place for the good
guys to go over and for all the heels to get what's coming to them.
Unfortunately, something tells me I have a better chance of winning
Miss America 1983 than that happening. Let's get to it.
We
open with a clip from Thunder, showing the Blonde in a bed sheet
being given tickets to SuperBrawl. It's
also implied that she's been shocking him with the taser.
Opening
video focusing on people
winning the World Title over the last year or two and how Hogan
ruined what the belt meant.
The
set looks a lot like the Nitro set but with no ramp.
The
announcers talk about the show a little bit.
We
recap the Tag Team Title tournament and
how many teams have split up on the way.
Tonight the Horsemen have to beat Barry Windham and Curt Hennig
twice in a row to become champions.
The
title belts are in a glass case in front of the entrance.
Gene
says call the Hotline.
Disco
Inferno vs. Booker T.
This
was added on Thunder due to Disco interrupting Booker trying to get
Stevie to leave Harlem Heat and getting shoved for his efforts.
Disco cost Booker a match later in the night. They
stall to start as Tony finally admits that the main story is no
longer about tradition vs. NWO but rather good vs. evil. In other
words, what wrestling has been since it got started. Booker elbows
him in the face to start but gets kneed in the ribs. The crowd is
REALLY hot tonight. Disco hits a swinging neckbreaker but Booker is
right back up.
A
slam puts Disco down but he
walks into an armdrag. Booker gives a look that says “you got me”
so Disco dances in the corner. That earns him a bunch of right hands
to the face and some loud chops for good measure. The flying forearm
gets two but Disco nails a knee to the ribs and puts on a sleeper.
Booker fights out but misses the side kick and gets clotheslined out
to the floor.
After
sending Booker into the steps, Disco takes him back inside for the
dancing elbow drop and two. Booker
comes right back with the spinning kick to the face and the ax kick.
Disco goes up and jumps into the whip spinebuster but he comes right
back with a hard running clothesline. The Chartbuster is countered
into a belly to back suplex and Booker spins up. Another side kick
drops Disco but he pops up again as Booker goes up top. Booker
shoves him down and nails the Harlem Hangover to finally get the pin.
Rating:
B-. Who would have thought this
would have been this good? Booker T. is one of the few bright spots
in what is becoming a dreadful WCW. He goes out there, puts on
consistently decent to good matches and doesn't get dragged down into
bad storylines. I'm glad he got a spot on the card here as he's more
than earned it. Hopefully he gets a better push soon. Disco looked
good out there too. His in ring work is always forgotten and that's
a shame.
Chris
Jericho vs. Saturn
Loser
wears a dress, or has to keep wearing a dress depending on who loses.
Ralphus is still in the pink dress and Scott Dickinson is coming out
with Jericho. Saturn's
dress is a bit more form fitting this time and the top half is the
same as a lot of wrestlers' singlets. Dickinson is refereeing
because WCW's bosses don't think these things through. After the
bell, Jericho says Saturn looks ridiculous and calls him a cross eyed
cross dressing freak. Saturn is even an embarrassment to Ralphus.
Saturn finally has had
enough and he lays out Jericho with a backdrop to the floor.
Jericho
gets whipped into the barricade twice and Saturn dives off said
barricade with an ax handle to the head. A soda to the head
thankfully has no effect on Saturn but a whip into the barricade
works a bit better. Back inside with Saturn grabbing a t-bone suplex
as Tony and Bobby continue to interrupt each other in a joke that has
gone on all show now. Saturn catapults Jericho back to the floor and
follows him with a nice plancha.
Now
Saturn sends Ralphus into the ring and rips the dress off of him,
which might be an improvement. Jericho uses the distraction to kick
Saturn down, only to be taken to the mat and have his head rammed
into the canvas. Dickinson hasn't been a factor at all yet. Jericho
blocks another plancha but he jumps off the top and into Saturn's
boot. Saturn hits a frog splash for no cover but Jericho grabs a
rollup for two.
In
the corner and Saturn wraps the bottom of his dress over Jericho's
head and hammers away. Saturn rolls through a cross body and puts on
the Rings of Saturn but Jericho gets his feet in the ropes. A
Falcon's Arrow from Saturn looks to set up the Lionsault but Jericho
rolls away and hits the real version for two. Jericho is frustrated
and walks into the Death Valley Driver. Saturn hits another one on
Dickinson....and walks out for the countout. Or
is it a DQ? Penzer says countout so we'll go with that.
Rating:
C. Good match here but the
ending stops whatever they had going. More importantly though, what
in the world was the point of Dickinson? He was evil, got suspended,
came back and did absolutely nothing. The match was good enough, but
I don't see why you don't give Saturn a clean win here.
Konnan
and Rey are ready for the hair vs. mask match later. Rey
slammed Luger's arm in a car door on Thursday. These
are the kind of guys that should have been in the tournament if it
was actually something serious.
We
recap Page vs. Steiner. Scott claims that Kimberly wants him so he
threw her out of a moving car. Steiner then sued Page for $1 million
for emotional damages. Tonight it's Steiner's title vs. 30 days with
Kimberly. Why Page would agree to adding that is beyond me.
Cruiserweight
Title: Kidman vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr.
Chavo
is challenging after turning heel due to the team performing badly in
the tournament. A
hurricanrana and armdrag drop Chavo before a dropkick sends him to
the floor. Back in and
another clothesline sends Chavo back to the floor for more stalling.
Kidman gets tired of waiting and baseball slides Guerrero into the
barricade. Tony tells us that Luger is out of the hair vs. mask
match later due to a biceps injury caused by Rey's attack on Thunder
but Nash has a replacement partner.
Kidman
tries another dive but only hits steel to give Guerrero control.
Back in and the brainbuster gets two for the challenger and we hit
the chinlock. Kidman gets
sent to the floor and Chavo follows him out with a big flip dive.
Back in and Kidman backdrops his way out of a powerbomb attempt but
he comes up favoring his back.
Chavo
goes up, only to dive into a dropkick to the ribs. Kidman can't
follow up though and Chavo grabs a top rope hurricanrana for two.
The BK Bomb connects for two
but Chavo pops back up and tries a powerbomb. He deserves the
faceplant he gets and Kidman hits the Shooting Star to retain. To
continue Tony's odd way of saying things, he said Kidman dragged
Chavo to the corner “for proximity purposes.”
Rating:
B-. Another good match here as
you would expect from these two. Chavo
is a good worker in the ring and now that he's just a guy instead of
being completely insane he'll be able to showcase that a lot more.
Kidman is getting really close to being a great champion but he has
to face Mysterio at some point to cement that status.
Video
on Goldberg vs. Bigelow.
Tag
Team Titles: Curt Hennig/Barry Windham vs. Dean Malenko/Chris Benoit
This
is a tournament final, but since it's double elimination and only
Hennig/Windham are undefeated, Malenko and Benoit have to win two
matches in a row. If Hennig and Windham win the first fall, they win
the belts. Benoit and
Malenko have already won three matches this week to get here. Heenan
notices a nice plot point: you have current Horsemen against former
Horsemen here.
Dean
chases Windham around to start before they hit the mat to fight over
hammerlocks. Off to Benoit
vs. Hennig as the fans are still as hot as they were earlier in the
night. Tony talks about Hennig, Malenko and Windham all being second
generation wrestlers. Heenan: “So is referee Mickie Jay.” Tony:
“Who was his father?” Heenan: “Oh he wasn't a wrestling
referee. He umpired a peewee football league in Moline, Illinois
back in the 40s.”
Hennig
chops Benoit in the corner so Benoit chops him so hard that Hennig
falls to the mat. They slap
it out and it turns into a fight in the corner. The running
clothesline puts Hennig on the floor as Tony says Benoit has never
been a champion before, meaning Benoit's TV Title wins at house shows
either don't count, or Tony wasn't informed of them. Barry
comes back in and hammers away in the corner, only to get chopped
right back.
Off
to Malenko who dropkicks Windham into the ropes. Barry is a good two
and a half feet from Hennig but Hennig comes in anyway. The referee
puts him out but Windham gets in a cheap shot to take over. That was
kind of an odd sequence. Hennig comes in legally and gets nailed by
Dean, allowing him to roll to the corner for a hot tag to Benoit.
Chris comes in and beats up both cowboys with ease and a backbreaker
gets two on Curt.
A
LOUD chop has Hennig in trouble and it's back to Malenko for some
shots in the corner. Heenan wants all car races to have no brakes
because he likes his wrestling fast. Benoit nails the Swan Dive but
Windham breaks up the cover. Curt gets crotches on the top rope and
dropkicked out to the floor but comes back in with a low blow right
in front of the referee. That's perfectly fine with the son of a
Moline football league umpire and Barry comes back in for two off a
gutwrench suplex.
Dean
gets sent to the floor and chopped up against the barricade for two
back inside. Hennig gets
sent into the corner as the fans think this is boring. Benoit takes
Curt's head off with a clothesline but
Barry comes in with a cheap shot to take over. The superplex gets
two as Dean makes the save and it's back to Hennig for more chops.
Hennig's running neck snap
gets two but Benoit finally rolls over and tags in Dean to clean
house. Barry gets caught in the Cloverleaf and Benoit stops Hennig,
forcing the submission for the first fall.
Since
this is basically a two fall match I'll save the rating for after the
whole thing is done. There's a thirty second rest period between
falls.
Windham
has taken his belt off and chokes Dean down, which there is no reason
for the referee not to see. Barry keeps choking with the belt and
pulls Dean to the mat for the pin and the titles.
Rating:
C-. This match is proof that
WCW just does not understand what it's doing. After
the last month of putting up with this way too complicated tournament
where WCW didn't even know who was in it half the time, we sit
through a long yet good match where the Horsemen win, only to have
them lose the second fall a minute later because it's double
elimination. Not only was
the tournament boring, but now the ending makes people mad.
Who
in the world thinks Hennig and Windham deserve Tag Team Titles?
They've teamed together for all of a few weeks and now they get the
belts after the Horsemen win four matches in a week to lose the last
fall in a minute? This is bad storytelling and completely missing
what your audience wants. Yeah
Benoit and Malenko can come back and win them later, but all the
momentum and the interest is gone now. Horrible decision and just a
stupid move. For WCW to think Barry Windham is more valuable than
Chris Benoit and Dean
Malenko in 1999 is
ridiculous.
As
for the match itself, it wasn't bad but the refereeing here was
atrocious. There's a difference between relaxing the rules a bit and
having referees mean as much as ECW referees. When a guy is punching
the other man low right in front of the referee, something should be
done. Otherwise, why bother having them there?
We
recap the US Title situation which went from Hart defending against
Benoit to Roddy Piper defending against Scott Hall, and all it took
was Will Sasso from MadTV. Yeah Benoit loses again because Roddy
Piper needs this push.
Kevin
Nash/??? vs. Konnan/Rey Mysterio Jr.
This
is Rey's mask vs. Liz's hair due to Lex Luger bullying Rey. Nash's
mystery partner is....Scott Hall. Liz
is looking great here in a short skirt, tight low cut red top to show
off the surgery and thigh high boots. Luger is seconding the
Outsiders. Heenan rants
about how stupid he thinks Mysterio's mask in the most heelish thing
he's said in a long time. I
know Heenan is mean most of the time but it's usually more sly
than flat out mean.
Hall
throws the toothpick at Mysterio so Rey throws it right back. Rey
gets thrown down twice in a row but he comes back with a quick
armdrag. A springboard
seated senton (called a Thesz Press by Schiavone) drops Hall and Rey
nails Nash with a forearm for good measure. He dives too many times
though and gets caught in a fall away slam. Nash comes in and throws
Rey down by the throat as Heenan keeps ripping into Mysterio about
the mask.
Back
to Hall for some clotheslines and you can clearly see a purple and
yellow Razor Ramon elbow pad sticking out from under the Wolfpack
pad. Rey escapes the Outsider's Edge and tags in Konnan who hammers
away until Nash gets in a cheap shot from the apron. There's
the big boot choke in the corner before it's back to Hall as Rey
plays cheerleader on the apron. Konnan fights back but a double
clothesline puts he and Hall down. Liz
and Luger seem to be plotting something on the floor.
Rey
gets the tag and dropkicks both Outsiders before using Nash's back as
a launching pad to dropkick Hall a second time. Everything breaks
down and the fans are getting back into it. Luger pulls Konnan to
the floor and sends him into the steps as Rey hits a moonsault press
on Nash, nailing him in the head with his knee to knock Kevin silly.
Liz distracts the referee though, allowing Hall to give Rey the Edge
and put Nash on top for the pin.
Rating:
D. This wasn't as long as the
previous match but the ending is just as stupid. As soon as you knew
Liz's hair would be on the line you knew the NWO would win, but WCW's
stupidity continues as they think Rey is better without his mask.
Heaven forbid you sell the thing and make a bunch of money off of it
or something like that. Also
the name King of Mystery doesn't have quite the same meaning now.
This is another match that
didn't need to happen and whose only purpose seems to be to
disappoint the fans.
Rey
unmasks and Nash tells him to put it back on. Mysterio looks very
young.
TV
Title: Scott Steiner vs. Diamond Dallas Page
Scott
is defending and has been after Page's wife Kimberly, including
throwing her out of a car. Assuming this stipulation isn't dropped,
it's title vs. 30 days with Kimberly here. Scott,
sans Buff here,
brings a girl in from the audience and gently
kisses her after talking trash about Page. It's
a serious Page this time and the champion stalls on the floor to
start. Page will have none of that and sends him into the barricade
before they head inside.
Punches
and choking have Steiner in early trouble but the referee drags Page
off of him, allowing Scott to get in a rake to the eyes. They
head outside again and both guys are sent into the barricade. Back
in and Page scores with a top rope clothesline and a neckbreaker
sends Scott back to the floor.
Buff Bagwell runs out to
give Steiner a pep talk but Page tells them both to come on. Both
guys get atomic drops but the numbers game catches up to him as
Steiner nails a clothesline.
Steiner
chokes on the ropes and Buff gets in a few chokes of his own. Page
gets tied in the Tree of Woe for even more choking. The fans are far
quieter than they were about an hour ago. Interesting how having
heels win matches they didn't need to win over underdogs will do that
to you. More punching in
the corner has Page in trouble but he comes back with right hands of
his own. A belly to belly gets two for Steiner but Page pulls the
champions trunks halfway down on a rollup for two.
Steiner
nails a backbreaker as Buff has put a chair in the corner. A big
chair shot to the back (even Tony says the referee should have heard
that) puts Page down and Bagwell uses some wire cutters to unhook the
turnbuckle pads. Page hits a very low headbutt to escape the
Recliner but the referee ejects Buff. A discus lariat puts Steiner
on the floor and Page follows him out with a plancha.
That's
fine with Scott as he whips Page into the steps but takes too long
going after the steps, allowing Page to nail Steiner with a
clothesline. Back in and
Page gets crotched on the top, setting up a top rope Frankensteiner
for two. The Diamond Dream
(jumping spinning DDT) drops Steiner but Page can't follow up.
Instead Steiner sends Page into the exposed buckle and GOOD GRIEF WHY
DO WE HAVE REFEREES IF THEY JUST WATCH PEOPLE CHEAT??? Robinson
ejected Bagwell for taking off the pad, saw Steiner move the middle
pad, and then saw Page go into the buckle and is totally fine with
it. Of course he is.
Steiner
rams Page back first into the exposed buckle three times because
there's nothing wrong with that apparently. Page passes out in the
Recliner. There's no mention made of the 30 days with Kimberly,
meaning that Thunder is even more useless now because the
stipulations made on that show are completely forgotten three days
later.
Rating:
D. This would be the third
straight match where the fan favorite and logical winner has been
completely destroyed and at least the second match where the referee
doesn't seem to mind cheating at all. The fans are getting quieter
and quieter every single match and I can't blame them at all.
Heenan
brings up the thirty days because he's the only person there with a
brain (maybe there's something to that name after all) and Tony
completely ignores him because continuity is a bad word in WCW.
Page
is put in a neck brace and taken away on a stretcher, despite Steiner
working over his back for most of the match. The fans chant “PAGE
SUCKS” because he's a hero who has been wronged, meaning he has
absolutely no chance at winning a major match in this promotion.
Bam
Bam Bigelow is with Mark Madden (who is actually fatter than Bigelow
here) and says that this was his plan tonight as he's gotten in
Goldberg's head and gotten a contract out of it.
US
Title: Scott Hall vs. Roddy Piper
Piper
is defending. Sign in the
crowd: “Jericho, make the Wight choice.” Disco is here with
Hall, who takes a full theme song before he comes through the
entrance. Hall shoves Piper
back and gets slapped in the face for his efforts. Roddy, seeming
fine after the big beatdown on Monday, throws the kilt over Hall's
face and drags him down to the mat for early control. Some left
hands drop Hall and a slow motion neckbreaker gets one.
Roddy
pulls some of Hall's hair out and knocks Disco off the apron. Hall
does the comedic sell of some atomic drops before getting poked in
the eyes. Piper is sent to the floor where Hall sends him face first
into the steps. Back in and Hall hammers away before tying Piper up
in the Tree of Woe. Disco gets in some choking and we hit the
abdominal stretch with Inferno helping. Heenan actually gives us
some insight: Disco pulling on the arm isn't meant to hurt Piper, but
to prevent him from hiptossing Hall.
The
referee catches the cheating and stops it, followed by Piper
immediately hiptssing Hall to escape. Score one for Heenan. The
fans are just DEAD for this. Piper puts on the sleeper and no one
cares. I mean I literally do not see one person on their feet or
showing any happiness whatsoever. Nash comes in and the distraction
lets Hall roll Piper up with his feet on the ropes for the pin.
Rating:
F. If the fans are that silent
about a title match, the match can only be considered a failure. On
top of that, this is the match that we lost Bret Hart vs. Chris
Benoit for. Roddy Piper was
the United States Champion in 1999 and lost it to Scott Hall. This
was deemd a better choice than Bret Hart vs. Chris Benoit. Let that
sink in for a minute.
Piper
won't give up the belt post match until Disco takes it from him.
Roddy tries to fight them off before bailing. Naturally no one is
interested in helping the veteran because why would a good guy get
any support?
Bam
Bam Bigelow vs. Goldberg
The
fans go NUTS for Goldberg because they know they've finally got
someone they can cheer for that can win. It's in a meaningless match
that should have headlined a Nitro in mid-December but on this show
it's exactly what we need. Goldberg is billed from Stone Mountain,
Georgia here for the only time that I can remember.
Tony
brings up the challenge that Goldberg made on the Tonight Show that
shocked the world. Anyway the fans are.....oh you wanted to know
what the challenge was? Well that's not important enough for Tony to
specify. Thanks to the magic of Youtube, the challenge was Goldberg
challenging Steve Austin to a fight for $100k of Goldberg's own
money. This is the only time I've ever heard this mentioned and I
never heard anything about this from anyone in the WWF, so I'm
thinking this is WCW panicking and trying to get someone to notice
them.
Quick
sidebar here. In the clip from the Tonight Show, Goldberg says that
people have been calling him a Steve Austin ripoff. I've heard
people say this for years and it has to be one of the dumbest ideas
I've ever heard. Other than being bald and wearing black trunks,
what do these two have in common? They have different styles,
different physiques, they're about as far apart on promos as you can
possibly be (Goldberg barely talked for over a year), and Goldberg
barely even has a character. Other than two on the surface
characteristics and the timing, they're about as opposite as you can
be.
Anyway,
on to the match. They get in each others' faces and shout a lot (oh
dear they're both bald. I CAN'T TELL THEM APART BECAUSE IT MAKES
THEM SO SIMILAR!) before Goldberg shoves Bigelow back. Bigelow
hammers away but a shoulder only keeps Goldberg down for half a
second. A delayed slam drops Bam Bam and sends him out to the floor.
Back in and Goldberg nails a flying shoulder before hitting an FU
and the worst looking cross armbreaker (it was missing the cross and
the breaking parts) I've ever seen.
Bigelow
rolls to the floor as the fans chant ECW. He trips up Goldberg and
hits Goldberg low a few times, with the referee telling him to cut it
out. Now Bigelow goes after Goldberg's knee, wrapping it around the
post and putting on a leg lock inside. Thank goodness they went this
route instead of using the Goldberg formula. The fans were
dangerously close to being entertaining.
We
hit the chinlock for a bit before Goldberg fights up and slams
Bigelow to get a breather. He can't follow up though and Bam Bam
nails a clothesline. The top rope headbutt connects for two before
Goldberg wakes up and hits the spear, a superkick, another spear and
the Jackhammer for the pin. He BARELY got Bigelow up.
Rating:
D+. This was decent enough but
I have no reason why Goldberg is out of the main event scene. He
never got a rematch and never really talked about wanting revenge on
the NWO. Instead he jumped back a month for his showdown with
Bigelow that I don't think many people cared for. Goldberg beating
another monster is a fine idea, but wouldn't Goldberg vs. Nash have
made more sense? At least with Luger there's a reason for Goldberg
not to go after him.
WCW
World Title: Hollywood Hogan vs. Ric Flair
Now,
in a normal wrestling company, when the heels win almost every single
major match, it would usually be a sign that we get a feel good
moment to end the show. You might as well start making out Flair's
tombstone now. Flair comes
in very calmly and it's a slow start. A hard chop in the corner has
Hogan in trouble but he takes Ric into the corner for some knees to
the ribs. Flair gets backdropped and clotheslined in the corner as
this is starting to look like Starrcade 1997.
They
trade chops in the corner and Flair hits the knee drop. That's more
like it, but as soon as I say that Hogan hits a clothesline out of
the corner. The Flair Flip in the corner sends Ric to the floor and
a chair shot to the head busts him open. Back
in and it's all Hogan and he slams Flair off the top. Some elbow
drops are no sold and Flair is ticked off. That lasts all of two
seconds as Hogan nails him in the corner and whips him with the
weightlifting belt.
Flair
absorbs the shots...and is knocked down by a belt shot to the head.
Ric chops away in the corner and Hogan HULKS UP. Thankfully Flair
kicks him low (the referee is fine with it. Again.) and takes off
the weightlifting belt to whip Hogan a few times. Now
Hogan is bleeding so Flair bites at the cut. Cue
the Blonde in a red dress (Tony recognizes her, which makes me wonder
WHY HE NEVER MENTIONED IT IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS) to slap Flair.
Ric
hammers away in the corner and gets two off a vertical suplex, but
the referee is bumped on the kickout. Hogan elbows the referee for
good measure before nailing Flair with the big boot. The legdrop
misses though, but we've got a masked man. Flair is going after the
leg and Heenan thinks the masked man is Bischoff. Whoever he is, he
uses the taser on Flair and holds hands with the Blonde, giving Hogan
the pin and the title.
Rating:
F. I'll get to the masked man
and how stupid it is in a minute. The match was about what you would
expect from a Hogan match at this point. The bigger problem though
was the lack of a payoff. Flair has gotten destroyed every step of
the way and now he gets beaten up in the big match. This is another
example of a match that should have been a layup but instead of
scoring, they beat themselves over the head with a brick. Horrible
match and idea in general.
The
masked man celebrates with Hogan and the Blonde. The mask comes off
and it's David Flair, because beating up, humiliating and beating up
Ric Flair again wasn't enough. The NWO celebrates to end the show.
Overall
Rating: D-. You know what the
worst part of this show is? The first fifty minutes. Those were
some solid matches that got the crowd going and put them in a good
mood. It's a shame that no one is going to remember any of them
because of how horrible the rest of the show was. I can't say a show
is a failure when the first third was good, but that's the extent of
the positives.
Let's
start with David Flair. If you look at this story as a whole, it
makes very little sense. I understand the idea: David is young and
was given the Blonde to convince him to turn on his father. Why such
a young man would be stupid enough to accept help from someone that
destroyed him is beyond me, but that's a common hole in wrestling
logic. You would think that Ric could find his son a dozen gorgeous
women (which he just happened to do in a few months but we'll get
there later), but instead we get to humiliate Ric AGAIN because why
would the fans need a hero to cheer for?
That
should be the subtitle of this show: Who Needs Heroes? Other than
Goldberg winning a pretty meaningless match, the biggest face to win
here was Booker T., in another match that doesn't mean much. This
show was all about the NWO and making sure they looked as dominant as
possible and taking out every bit of their competition in the
process.
I
rarely get angry doing these reviews, but this show was so bad that I
was actually getting ticked off watching it fifteen years after it
happened and knowing what was coming. That's how stupid this show
was and somehow, WCW is going to get WORSE. This
show wasn't just doing things wrong. This show was seeing what was
the right move and running as far away from it as they could. It's
one of the most maddening shows I have ever seen and leaves me with
almost nothing to look forward to.
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This was the last WCW PPV to get a buyrate above 1.0. Fitting isn't it?
ReplyDeleteI have no idea why anyone would buy another after this.
ReplyDeleteJericho was my favorite WCW performer at the time and it was dreadful to see him booked with Saturn, Scott Dickenson, a pair of matches with Scott Steiner, and the other dregs around this time.
ReplyDeleteDon't like Saturn huh?
ReplyDeleteHe has no charisma and is boring as hell. He had some decent matches when working with Benoit, Jericho, Kanyon, Guerrero, and other workrate guys but he was never a good singles guy, IMO.
ReplyDeleteIf you add up Scott Keith's star ratings for the final 6 matches, you get: -*1/4
ReplyDeleteYeah I never got the big deal on him. I still laugh at people who actually thought he had a shot at succeeding in WWE. Yeah yeah he didn't deserve the moppy thing but that still doesn't change the fact he was never going to get over no matter how they booked him.
ReplyDeleteSaturn and Kanyon would have made a good regular team but it was 1998 and WCW's tag division was non-existant.
ReplyDeleteThe Rey bit is because Bischoff thought masked wrestlers weren't marketable enough. Because, of course, absolutely no one is ever seen at WWE shows with Rey masks. Hell, even WWE does their best to ignore this period for him, no images of him unmasked used, they, like Rey, just prefer to think it never happened and hard not to blame them.
ReplyDeleteI still remember having some hope for WCW, even after the Fingerpoke, they still had the talent to make it work. But this show, seeing such horrible creative decisions and the wrong guys going over and the same old guys going over was when it started to truly hit me that this company really might not be able to recover.
ReplyDeleteAnd yet, in my wildest dreams, I could never imagine the depths they would sink to and my heart goes out to you if you truly with to relieve that agony all over again.
I still find it amazing this show drew a 1.1 buyrate.
ReplyDeleteAs he points out, the build was good, WCW still had power then, folks thought they get back on track. Then this show sends them on the slide to disaster.
ReplyDeleteThe best part of Jericho's first book is him talking about this period and how it felt to realize he was in a company that had no clue what they were doing and the second he had the chance, he jumped and never regretted it.
ReplyDeleteI was aware of that, but I see your points though.
ReplyDeleteRemember Bob Ryder saying how bad of an idea Jericho jumping ship was? Sure thing Mr. 1wrestling.
ReplyDeleteIs that site even still around?
Flair still had credibility as a top face, which the company swiftly destroyed because Bischoff.
ReplyDeleteThe book "Pain and Passion," history of Stampede, has the famous bit of Jericho and Hogan at Owen Hart's funeral, Jericho talking about leaving WCW soon and Hogan asking "can I go with?"
ReplyDelete"Because Bischoff" can replace "Because WCW" so much in this period.
ReplyDeleteRey lost his mask because "Hootie Hoo" was going to get Yes chants level of popularity dammit!
ReplyDeleteAnd the train comes off the track
ReplyDeleteI feel like I need a Rocky montage every time I start one of these pay per views.
ReplyDeleteSidenote: I'm still getting used to the Network. If I want to watch one of these things it takes like five seconds to have the whole thing right in front of me. That's a very nice perk of modern technology.
I'm hardly an authority on 1990s WCW, since I was in the WWF camp, but don't WCW fans pick this show as the beginning of the end? IIRC, this show drew a pretty good buyrate.
ReplyDeleteRic Flair being forced into the main event was weak but I bet it was in his good ol' boys contract. One of the many factors that led to the demise of WCW.
ReplyDeletePretty much, and as pointed out below it was the last PPV to get a high buyrate.
ReplyDeleteDidn't this PPV have some weird commercial with a knight pulling Excalibur from a stone or something?
ReplyDeleteBeing that I was a big Hogan-fan in 1999 - I was cool with them destroying all the "so-called faces." In hindsight, this is what you get when you give Hogan creative control. Heck, you should see him and Linda in 1999 on an Extra trying to talk about how evil Russo was for trying to force him into retirement and all they needed to do was talk to him and they could of had an understanding. As much as I don't like the Honky Tonk Man -- he's got a point about Hogan being all me-me-me-me. I hope he's done some repenting for the sake of his soul. [I also think Hogan regrets being a jerk at some points, but felt it is just the way the business worked.]
ReplyDeleteI think because of Mexican tradition, he might not have worked a match in Mexico since.
ReplyDeleteThing is, every now and then, you hear a story of Hogan doing something great like putting over Jacques Rougeau in a house show in Canada, talking about it a reward for all the great opening bouts Jacques did. Just hard to balance it out with the obvious "make it all about me" that he showed in WCW (and TNA for that matter).
ReplyDeleteYeah brother, I want to go back to a real company that won't put up with my crap -- I'm getting bored burying people.
ReplyDeleteIIRC, the story from Quebec is Rougeau paid Hogan to take the fall, and Hogan cared more about the money than getting the win because it was a house show in Canada.
ReplyDeleteMoppy was the best thing Saturn ever did. I loved that gimmick - that would have got him over. "Turtles need love too - you're welcome."
ReplyDeleteToo see Hogan turn face and Flair finally get a pinfall victory (in a first-blood match) over him.
ReplyDeleteGotta say I'd side with Hogan on the Russo thing. Hogan/Bret was right there for Starrcade. And about his creative control, it only related to the outcomes of his matches. He had no control over who they put him with, which makes Russo's BatB 2000 shoot even DUMBER in hindsight. You hated Hogan so much yet you booked him in a World title feud, yeah that makes sense.
ReplyDeleteYeah, the Death of WCW book goes into that whole mess and how the tradition down there has its drawbacks as well.
ReplyDeleteMan didn't half the Uncensored's have fucked up finishes in the big matches?
ReplyDeleteIndeed. It looked like Zelda.
ReplyDeleteJericho mentions the same thing in his book. "Take me with you brother"
ReplyDeleteI think the Goldberg is a Austin ripoff is one of those Vince things, because it's mentioned often in Legends Roundtables and DVDs. Like how WCW was EVIL~ because they wanted to take WWF out of business and leave every poor WWF employee homeless, while Vince did nothing of the kind.
ReplyDelete"This
ReplyDeleteis a tournament final, but since it's double elimination and only
Hennig/Windham are undefeated, Malenko and Benoit have to win two
matches in a row."
We have double elimination pool tournaments in my area, and for some ungodly reason, when it comes to the finals, it's winner takes all. Meaning, if the guy with 1 loss beats the undefeated guy, IT IS OVER. NO REMATCH. In other words, the one and only undefeated person GETS PUNISHED, AS HE IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT GETS ELIMINATED WITH ONE LOSS. SO STUPID AND UNFAIR!!!
I give you credit for watching '99 WCW knowing how awful it is. It's like sitting down to watch Ishtar.
ReplyDeleteU hit the nail right on the head with the Goldberg and stone cold comparisons. I've always thought that exact same thing and thought I was the only one. Glad to know someone else isn't an idiot
ReplyDeleteThis guy gets it
ReplyDeleteOr girl
ReplyDeleteThat sounds high.
ReplyDeleteDouble elimination rules have never made sense to me for that reason.
ReplyDeleteIf you're done, you're done.
If you want to do a "one loss means nothing" deal, do a round-robin league where pins are worth 2 points, a count-out/ DQ is worth 1 point, etc.