No more percentages because people are obviously rigging the votes somehow.
http://challonge.com/bodic#_=_
Although much of this bracket is spectacular mismatches, there’s certainly one barnburner to be had with Savage-Angle. And how did we end up with "Dolph Ziggler" vs "Val Venis" as a match? Are we seeding by ridiculous names now?
See, I want my guys to win, but if they don't, it's just an online vote so who cares? I don't think I'd feel good knowing my guy only advanced through chicanery.
ReplyDeleteYou shut up! #MountieForever
ReplyDeleteIs this random draw again? Because having Santino and Axel in one bracket and Savage and Angle in another is kinda bullshit.
ReplyDeleteHuh. Could end up with Savage vs. Triple H. If only there was something that they could feud over, say a persistent Internet rumour of some sort.
ReplyDeleteKurt was IC champion for like a month, but Savage was IC champ for a year. Kind of a no-contest, actually... But would have been an amazing match with both guys in their prime.
ReplyDeleteBy title length, Angle wasn't champion that long.
ReplyDeleteIf HHH and Savage both end up in the Hall of Fame this year, that would be interesting.
ReplyDeleteBy hat criteria, Jeff Jarrett and Randy Savage should advance.
ReplyDeleteMountie just getting by the first round, then getting squashed in the next would be apropos.
ReplyDeleteWhat about hankey criteria?
ReplyDeleteWho is he pitted against?
ReplyDeleteJeff clearly.
ReplyDeleteOld embarrassing 2007 Flair.
ReplyDeleteC'mon Shelton you can do it! That dude beat a plethora of top stars while IC champ.
ReplyDeleteMountie should easily take down that Flair guy, whoever he is.
ReplyDeleteWhat about hankey criteria?
ReplyDeleteCause you know about the hankeys.
Yeah the fact you can vote infinity really takes away from the tournament and as much as I can understand the Mountie meme, I fucking hate memes.
ReplyDeletePlethora would be a good name for a masked wrestler who has an expansive move-set.
ReplyDelete"You'll never know how Plethora will beat ya, Maggle! He's got a PLETHORA of finishers!"
I'm surrah Sheltub but YUH GUBBA DUH!!!!
ReplyDeleteYUH GUBBA DUH!!!!
YUH GUBBA DUH!!!
YUH GUBBA DUH!!!!
Old embarassing 2005 Flair, thank you very much.
ReplyDeleteFlair would bleed, hit Mountie in the balls a bunch and win with the figure four.
That's racist.
ReplyDeleteAhmed did not speak English and showed no interest in trying.
ReplyDeleteNext round Ahmed might face Umaga, which would be appropriate since "Umaga" sounds like how Ahmed would say "I'm going to."
ReplyDeleteUMAGA WUBBA JUB, INNA MONKEY FRUZZLE FROOP! YUH GUBBA DUH!
That's really racist.
ReplyDeleteNow you are making me paranoid that I used the word incorrectly and you're secretly mocking me.
ReplyDeleteIt's not really racism if the dude literally can't speak well.
ReplyDeleteRacist.
ReplyDeleteRacist
ReplyDeleteIt's about as racist as the "Maggle" thing.
ReplyDeleteNope, you're all good.
ReplyDeleteWell, you just told me that I had a plethora, and I would just like to know if you know what it means to have a plethora. I would not like to think that someone would tell someone else he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has no idea what it means to have a plethora.
ReplyDeleteJBL is a racist.
ReplyDeleteMohammed. Daniel can't force you to stay here. You can go back to Tunisia where online polls over best IC champ have integrity. You don't need this, man.
ReplyDeletePeople caring about the integrity of these polls is so crazy. It's for entertainment. It means nothing. It's crazy to care.
ReplyDeleteForgive me, El Guapo. I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior
ReplyDeleteintellect and education. But could it be that once again, you are angry
at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?
That's a tough draw for Jeff Jarrett. He was clearly the better Intercontinental Champion and doesn't stand a chance.
ReplyDeleteHe needs to wrestle a masked wrestler named Vintage.
ReplyDelete"VINTAGE Vintage."
Johnny Vintage, the most old-school grappler ever!
ReplyDeleteAt least Marty is up against someone easy here. Remember people, a vote for Marty is a vote for Daniel Bryan v Brock at WM so make it count!
ReplyDeleteJeff Hardy and Pat Pattetson face off in round 2.
ReplyDeleteIt means something. It's about values. It's about being strong, handsome and brave. It's about always upholding the law. It's about always getting our man to the finals.
ReplyDeleteI disagree. While he couldn't have title defenses cause of his neck injury, the hell Austin raised between Summerslam '97 and Survivor Series '97 (all over the IC title) trumps Jarrrett's entire career.
ReplyDeleteMatch ends in a draw when both guys go down on their knees at the same time.
ReplyDeleteJeff Jarrett was boring. He didn't deserve any of those reigns in 1999 and basically got them over Owen Hart's dead body.
ReplyDelete"HELLLOOOOO LADIESSSSSS...
ReplyDeleteSo this is Cleveland, Ohio. Home of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Well, if you're looking for a real... 'Rock Ride,' just hop on the Big Valbowski and you can ROCK AROUND THE" "I'M HERE TO SHOW THE WORLD, I'M HERE TO SHOW THE WORLD COME ONNNNNNNNNNN BRING IT ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!"
"I LOVE IT, MAGGLE!"
That's gonna be one hell of a tombstone reversal spot.
ReplyDeleteBecause there's no daily thread yet:
ReplyDeletePro Wrestling Syndicate debuted its new weekly show on a local channel here in NYC (WLNY) at 4:30-5:30 AM. It attracted 164k viewers.
That's only 99k less than TNA's premiere of Impact on Destination America, which was on a network in half the homes in the U.S. in prime time on Wednesday.
EVERYTHING IS FINE
This doesn't sound official.
ReplyDeleteLolwut?
ReplyDeleteThe first 30 minutes reversal spot in the history of our great sport.
ReplyDelete"THEYRE HAVIN FIN MAGGLE!"
Jarrett had a decent midcard run. Austin did nothing with the IC title so easy choice.
ReplyDeleteThe 95 run was fun.
ReplyDeleteRandy Savage vs. Kurt Angle in their primes would be the glistening tits.
ReplyDeleteMarty is the real life Santa. Vote for him and he'll make your dreams come true.
ReplyDeleteEven his 99 run was fun too.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wrestlezone.com/news/541863-wwe-live-event-results-109
ReplyDeleteThat's... Kind of a cool name.
ReplyDeletehis reign only stands as better because Austin had to forfeit his belt.
ReplyDeletebut in all seriousness, Austin was white hot during that period (when he was able to move) - between the Owen feud, then the matches with Rock. And that match at IYH DX is fucking great.
I doubt Marty could eat a sub like Muraco.
ReplyDeleteA vote for Muraco is a vote for meatball subs!
In TNA's defense, there are other TV shows on at 9pm.
ReplyDeleteBy the time Austin got the belt he was already bigger than it.
ReplyDeleteThis is a good idea, actually. Just take Ole, Harley Race, Watts, Gagne and roll them all into one guy
ReplyDeleteDamn, Angle v Savage actually WOULD be a main event anywhere in the country.
ReplyDeleteI really had to think about this one, but in the end I went with Angle. He just had more tools than Savage.
I've come to this late. Is this a vote for who was better in their prime? or who was a batter Intercontinental Champion, and made the belt seem more prestigious when they held it, regardless of how good they were when they weren't Intercontinental Champion?
ReplyDeleteHe had one match with The Rock. One. The one you just pointed out. It was his ONLY title defense.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you're going to throw matches around, while Austin-Rock was fun, it does not touch Jarrett/Michaels.
Supposed to be IC
ReplyDeletethe promos alone would be fucking amazing.
ReplyDeleteHow was he a better IC champ? The only memorable moments were his match vs. HBK and feuding with all the WWF's women.
ReplyDeleteIt's a vote for The Mountie.
ReplyDeleteLet's not pretend that match is great because of Jeff Jarrett.
ReplyDeleteOK, how many five-star matches did Steve Austin have with Shawn Michaels? What's that? None? I see.
ReplyDelete"So 1999 Savage and 2013 Angle?"
ReplyDelete-Dixie Carter
How many five star matches does Jarrett have otherwise? What's that? None? I see.
ReplyDeleteI've been voting based on who did more with the IC title. So Savage, who main evented B house shows shows with that title would get the nod for me over Angle, who I can't remember doing anything very memorable with that particular strap.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, Savage was a far better Intercontinental Champion than Angle, who only held the belt for like two months. Savage was awesome against Tito and Jake, got something memorable out of washed up George Steele and had a possible MOAT against Steamboat, one of the best feuds as well (don't discount Savage/Sammartino either).
ReplyDeleteSo he's tied with Jarrett and a million others at 0? Interesting.
ReplyDeleteWow the other round got pulled after no time at all!!! Damn, IMO we should leave it to one bracket a day.
ReplyDeleteI'm just knocking down that one point. Anyhow, my main argument is that when Jarrett held the title the belt meant more. Razor Ramon pursuing it meant something. Shawn Michaels pursuing it meant something. CHYNA pursuing it meant something.
ReplyDeleteWhen Austin held the IC belt, it meant nothing.
Angle trapping people in conversations about the Eurocontinental title was pretty memorable.
ReplyDeleteShe's a twat, and I could imagine her saying something that stupid.
ReplyDeleteMy hat voting finally bit me in the ass. I had to vote Jeff Jarrett over Steve Austin. That hurt.
ReplyDeleteHe got injured, and then when he won it the second time he was already a too big for it.
ReplyDeleteMuraco
ReplyDeleteSantino
JJ
Ziggler
Savage
Rey
Ahmed
Rvd
There is no criteria. I'm voting based on which IC champion has a better history with hat choices.
ReplyDeleteAhmed might be second choice after the Mountie.
ReplyDeleteRepost from another reply: my main argument is that when Jarrett held the title the belt meant
ReplyDeletemore. Razor Ramon pursuing it meant something. Shawn Michaels pursuing
it meant something. CHYNA pursuing it meant something. When you're a
midcard heel like Jeff Jarrett, that's you're JOB and he did it
well. People justifiably hate on him for his main event runs, but as a
secondary title holder he was effective.
When Austin held the belt, it meant nothing.
If you smell what the Mountie's cookin.
ReplyDeleteI picture more of a babyface. Like Ricky Morton, mullet and all. Dropkicks galore!
ReplyDeleteI just think the ic belt was kind of beneath Austin, even at the time he won it. Jarrett is sort of a text book ic champ IMO.
ReplyDeleteK-e-double n-y, Double A's bookending the l-p-h, Don't You Suck! lel
ReplyDeleteAfter living her for 5 years, all I can say is NYC loves its homegrown pro-wrestling.
ReplyDeleteThe "it's still real to me!!!" brigade got their way in the last round as Goldust was considered a better champion than Benoit.
ReplyDeleteI just can't believe I voted for Jarrett over Austin in anything. I need to seriously reexamine my life choices.
ReplyDeleteHe was.
ReplyDeleteI hope Mountie tries to zap Flair with the prod, only Naitch's leathery man cans don't conduct electricity and he jobs to a chop.
ReplyDeleteHe kind of was. It's close but Goldust had a really memorable reign.
ReplyDeleteHugs
ReplyDeleteThat murder was pretty real to me dammit.
ReplyDeleteHe totally was. I don't even remember Chris Benoit as IC champ.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny...I think the fact that he did the whole Eurocontinental thing, while awesome, diminished the stand alone importance of both titles. Although there's a whole separate conversation about whether we ever needed a Euro title in the first place.
ReplyDeleteThank god we stopped the "I started watching post attitude era" brigade from voting in Benoit.
ReplyDeleteSub-eating Muraco would destroy Marty Jannetty. In both the ring and probably drug-doing contests as well.
ReplyDeleteMidcard heel who led several babyfaces on hot pursuits in 1995 and 1999 vs. guy who defended the belt once.
ReplyDeleteAustin is far and away the better wrestler, but Jarrett is without a doubt in my mind the better Intercontinental Champion.
Ohh damn.. These are the perils of headware based voting though I suppose.
ReplyDeleteI hear Muraco is not a fan of the black people. And if there's one person Muraco could give the Asiatic Spike to, it'd be Jesus Christ.
ReplyDeleteHe also won the title many times when it was basically as important as the whc was just read recently. I just think people who didn't watch at the time don't know how huge golddust was.
ReplyDeleteYou know, Austin DID wear a lot of hats. Baseballs caps, Cowboy hats with Vince and Kurt...
ReplyDeleteHe was shootin on that one!
ReplyDeleteYeah, you may have a point. I'm just voting based on who I think should win.
ReplyDeleteI wish we still had a European championship. They keep trying to treat the U.S. as an equal to the IC. European was something for rookies and jobbers to fight over. Gave them something to do.
ReplyDeleteJarrett had great matches with Razor and Shawn when he was IC champ. Austin was injured the whole time he was IC champ.
ReplyDeleteIt meant something when CHYNA was gunning for it but not when Rock was? Austin's feud with Rock over the title in December '97 was infinitely better than anything Jarrett has ever done in this business.
ReplyDeleteI looked at the World title as the IC title until it was unified.
ReplyDeleteKing of the Ring 97?
ReplyDeleteIf there was a tournament for greatest IWC writers, Marty would vote for you Scott. Return the favor. Vote Marty.
ReplyDeleteThe Murder happened in real life by a real person who suffered from real mental illness and committed real suicide.
ReplyDeleteWe are voting for which character was the best holder of a fictional championship. The title matches aren't real, they are choreographed. The WWE is a fictional universe. Dolph Ziggler for example hasn't really been fired.
I voted Benoit, but Goldust was a really good champ too.
ReplyDeleteI watched WM28 with a friend that hadn't watched wrestling since the Attitude Era. The opening match was Sheamus vs Bryan for the WHC. When the ring announcer said "The following contest is for the World Heavyweight Championship..." my friend was like "ALREADY???" I'm like "No it's not THAT World Heavyweight Championship"
ReplyDeleteWe're voting under any criteria that we like. Kenny Chill is voting based on hats.
ReplyDeleteExactly, and the best person won.
ReplyDeleteKick. Wham. Stunner. Middle Finger. Fargo Strut.
ReplyDeleteYes, it did. That was a great feud.
ReplyDeleteThe best parts of Austin/Rock over that title came while Rock was the IC Champ, by the way (the pager, the river toss.)
Eh, I was bored to tears by every Jarrett/Razor match.
ReplyDeleteRight, and the best champ won.
ReplyDeleteOkay well Benoit bored the hell out of me and I never liked him. I found Goldust entertaining from 1996-1999. Is that better?
ReplyDeleteI hate voting against Ahmed because I believe he would have gone down as one of the best IC champions ever if he didn't get hurt.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of Goldust, a lot of us deride Vince as a creative guy but man, he really hit something unique with the Goldust character. Such a crazy idea...it's easy to do a gay character in wrestling but Goldust was next level shit. Where the hell did the inspiration come from to do the character? Remember, this is 1995!
ReplyDeleteThe mind games and bizarre psychology...you gotta give Dustin credit for pulling it off amazingly, too.
It's a sweater!
ReplyDeleteAustin wasn't champion for most of that. He forfeited the belt at Ground Zero.
ReplyDeleteThe tiny cowboy hat with Vince and Kurt! Goddammit! I totally forgot about that! That would have won.... Oh well. Double J was more of s hat guy, so the right guy one.
ReplyDeleteBut Chris Benoit was FOR REAL!!!
ReplyDeleteI love Benoit and would spam vote him into the next round if I had to in w tournament for best wrestler or even best WHC. And I'll watch those Jericho vs Benoit ic title matches any time. But golddust was a better and more memorable ic champ.
ReplyDeleteIf he showed up in early 94 we might not have got the Diesel reign.
ReplyDelete4 Real
ReplyDeleteYou mean you had tears in your eyes watching Jarrett carry a coked out Razor to great matches.
ReplyDeletePlus he saved Ahmed Johnson's life by CPR!
ReplyDeleteThey don't have IC title polls with integrity in Tunisia either.
ReplyDeleteThat was ****3/4 and you know it!
ReplyDeleteThe Pearl River Plunge is one of my favourite finishers ever.
ReplyDeleteI know but he still spent time being pissed off about being stripped of the title and making Owen's life a living hell. I dunno. I voting for Jeff Jarrett. Every segment he's ever appeared in on WWF TV was boring to me....unless Debra's titties were bouncing around.
ReplyDeleteSo great and golddust helped make Ahmed into a huge star by getting so much heat on the belt.
ReplyDeleteThat was a HUGE pop when Ahmed won the title. When he barreled out from backstage to beat Goldust's ass at the PPV...awesome.
ReplyDelete( . Y . )
ReplyDeleteAhmed Johnson should have been our first black WWE Champion.
ReplyDelete****1/4-1/2, more like it.
ReplyDelete( . Y . )
ReplyDeleteThat's never a certainty with Dolph.
ReplyDeleteRock was only IC champ at the time because Vince stripped Austin and simply handed it to Rock. Austin never lost the title in the ring or due to the inability to compete, so I'm counting all of that due to nefariousness.
ReplyDeleteIt was pretty much Exotic Adrian Street's gimmick mixed with a Hollywood backstory.
ReplyDeleteThis IC Title Tournament is TEARING US APART, LISA!
ReplyDeleteCan't see the %'s so I'm wondering how many times I have to vote for rey. Lol
ReplyDeleteWhen?
ReplyDelete97ish if he's healthy. Maybe wm13 if Ahmed had never suffered any injuries?
ReplyDeleteYeah, Dustin really did kill it with that character, even if the in-ring stuff was the worst of his career.
ReplyDeleteAnd who convinced Debra to get breast implants? Jarrett!
ReplyDeleteVote Jarrett if you like big tittays.
They were clearly grooming him and Mero in 1996, then next thing you know both got hurt and Austin happened.
ReplyDeleteHe would've been if he could have stayed healthy. He was on fire.
ReplyDeleteAnybody that votes for Jannetty over Muraco needs to be shot
ReplyDeleteThe first time he lost the title was because it was due to the inability to compete. Remember, he won it twice... actually defended the belt only once.
ReplyDeleteAnd clearly, storywise, the pursuing the belt meant SO MUCH to him that he threw it off a bridge.
96-97 or if he'd shown up in 94, he could have taken Nash's place.
ReplyDeleteGood thing he made up for it later in regards to the in-ring stuff. Even now he's busting out ranas and stuff.
ReplyDeleteWhen Goldust first started Dustin was so focussed on the gimmick which was the norm in that era, it too precedence over having good matches however compare his run in 2002 and his current run and you can see how he has hit the perfect balance between gimmick and wrestling.
ReplyDeleteMeh, we were never that close anyway.
ReplyDeleteInteresting. Yeah, if he wins the '97 Rumble in dominant fashion I don't think it hurts Austin in any way. Austin and Bret eliminate each other to further their blood feud, Ahmed dumps the whole Nation and more to win it. Sid vs. Ahmed in the shittiest main event of all time would have been acceptable as long as we still get Austin-Bret. Ideally, Shawn as cowardly heel getting murdered by Ahmed for the belt, but HBK ended up out of the show anyway. (HBK-Ahmed, Sid-Taker, Bret-Austin).
ReplyDeleteThe potential matches for Austin end up being really interesting.
ReplyDeleteWasn't the plan that Vader beats Shawn at Summerslam and Ahmed beats Vader at Survivor Series?
ReplyDeleteIf Vader beats Shawn for the belt at SummerSlam or Survivor Series, maybe you run Vader vs. Ahmed for the belt?
ReplyDeleteOne of greatest heels of all time. The jobber match where he eats the sandwich is so great. Muraco is one of those before my time guys I've gone out of my way to watch as much as possible.
ReplyDeleteHe certainly had every opportunity but he was injury prone and unsafe. Had he given a shit to stay in shape he may have had another opportunity later in his career.
ReplyDeleteThe first segment of wrestling I ever watched was Muraco and Bundy attacking Hogan.
ReplyDeleteSeems logical, but I doubt Shawn ever lets that happen, politically-speaking
ReplyDeleteI can't believe that in 30 years they've never revisted that sandwich gimmick.
ReplyDeleteIt's true. Shawn didn't like Ahmed, either. Thought he was a threat to his spot.
ReplyDeleteHe was a way more intimidating version of Goldberg, before there was a Goldberg. I agree he could have been the Guy, even if only for a while
ReplyDeleteI voted Muraco but Jannety has a lot of credibility in this tourney based off his awesome early Raw match with Michaels. In my mind a big win, match, or moment with the belt can be just as important as a lengthy reign.
ReplyDeleteI'm talking about this particular reign where he feuded with Rock.
ReplyDeletePursuing the title had nothing to do with Austin throwing it off the bridge.
God, there's so much heel stuff they don't do anymore. At least Rollins can do bad shit like threaten to cripple Edge.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad jannety at least got voted into the tournament.
ReplyDeleteNo, the plan was Vader wins, but Shawn gets it back at Rumble. They basically just subbed in Sid in that spot when Shawn wouldn't drop it to Vader.
ReplyDeleteNothing he could have really done about it.
ReplyDeleteSteph would vote Marty and she knows what's best for business https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me4ka0GU7d1rg89a6o1_400.jpg
ReplyDeleteGives Jarrett's finishing move ""The Stroke" a whole new meaning.
ReplyDeleteAh, gotcha. Makes sense since the Rumble was in San Antonio. But I do remember Ahmed winning something that made him number one contender so maybe he was going to be one of Vader's first challengers.
ReplyDeleteHe seemed to hold influence over Vince, at least more so than Ahmed Johnson
ReplyDeleteHe won a battle royal and then Ron Simmons debuted and attacked him, legit injuring him. Shawn and Ahmed seemed to be on their way to doing a MegaPowers angle.
ReplyDeleteRandy Savage hit that.
ReplyDeleteAllegedly.
That's right. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
ReplyDeleteNot to me. I don't think anyone has ever had that much influence over Vince.
ReplyDeleteThat could have been pretty good. If anyone was gonna get something decent out of Ahmed, I'm sure 96-97 Shawn could have
ReplyDeleteSteph's vagina knows talent when it sees it.
ReplyDeleteAnd before his injuries, Ahmed was a great power wrestler. Not really technically sound but he was doing planchas and had great fire.
ReplyDeleteHello?! Superfly Splash off the top of the Cage. Who retained the IC title in that match?
ReplyDeleteRandy Savage vs. Kurt Angle, compared with Curtis Axel vs. Santino? Really.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I voted for Ahmed Johnson because he coined the term "the People's Champion" when he had to give up the title thanks to his potentially deadly kidney infection brought about at the hands of Faarooq Assad, the Modern Day Gladiator.
Ahmed Johnson was black?!
ReplyDeleteLet's relive Marty's glorious IC title win https://38.media.tumblr.com/4776c066d491369e718a4ba114ad33d3/tumblr_ng6bgddl9X1snhdpvo10_250.gif
ReplyDeleteAND it inspired Mick Foley to become a pro wrestler!
ReplyDeleteMuraco's feuds over the belt were famous blood feuds, too.
There is always room for a Rick Rude style heel character. Sadly, there is no one like that right now.
ReplyDeleteMy theory is that they don't want heels to do innovative bad stuff because they fear the fans will cheer them over their chosen babyfaces.
ReplyDeletePatterson beat Guerrero by two votes! I doubt we'll see another one that close.
ReplyDeleteIf this was a headwear tournament, Faarooq would be unstoppable.
ReplyDelete