In your House matches?
A whole bunch of Shawn Michaels, I'm sure. Depending on what you count as In Your House, clearly Shawn v. UT would occupy a couple of the top spots. If not, I'd go:
1. Shawn v. Mankind
2. Shawn v. Jarrett
3. Shawn v. Diesel
4. Bret v. Bulldog bloodbath
5. Canadian Stampede Ten-Man
6. Taka v. Great Sasuke
7. Final Four
8. Undertaker v. Mankind (Buried Alive)
9. Undertaker v. Mankind (Revenge of the Taker)
10. Bret v. Hakushi
If you want to include the post-Ground Zero shows, insert Shawn v. Undertaker HITC at #1 and the GZ match at, say, #7.
Clash of the Champion matches?1. Flair v. Steamboat
2. Flair v. Funk
3. Flair v. Sting
4. Midnights v. Fantastics
5. Enforcers v. Steamboat & Rhodes
6. Steamboat v. Austin (US title)
7. Blonds v. Steamboat & Douglas
8. Midnights v. Flair & Windham
9. Dustin & Windham v. Steamboat & Douglas
10. Thundercage six-man
Clearly I'm very biased towards the early Crockett version and tag matches in general, but DUH.
Hunter/Slaughter Boot Camp match, adding that for you, Scott.
ReplyDeleteI would've definitely thought the Canadian Stampede 10 man was #1 or #2, not #5.
ReplyDeleteWas.Midnights/Southern Boys at a Clash? If so that definitely goes on there.
ReplyDeleteWas Shawn/Mankind and Shawn/Jarrett really *that* good? I'd think you'd put the 10-man and Shawn/Diesel over those, but whatever.
ReplyDeleteGAB 1990
ReplyDeleteWCW had some fine tag matches that year.
If you're counting post-Ground Zero, you know that the Austin-Dude Love matches would be way up there too. Same for Vince-Austin in the cage.
ReplyDeleteAh. Thanks
ReplyDeleteShawn v foley was IMO. The Jarrett match I didn't think was even a 4 star affair.
ReplyDeleteClash; Blonds vs Flair/Anderson was great even if poorly booked by not giving it enough time for the full 3 falls
ReplyDeleteSting vs Rude King of Cable semi-final in Nov 92 was a great match, their first meeting a year earlier had crowd heat WCW hadn't experienced in a long time
Shawn/Jarrett is a great match, third best American match of 1995 behind Bret/Bulldog and the Double Dog Collar match, IMO. For the record Benoit/Eddy time limit from Saturday Night is a close fourth.
ReplyDelete1990 WCW tag teams always reminds me of the Capital Combat ppv where Scott Steiner apologizes to his fans for losing before the match even happens
ReplyDelete"i just hope our fans understand that we can't win all the time"
In Your House Extends to Backlash 1999 I think. Shawn/Taker is definitely #1 with a bullet.
ReplyDeleteShawn/Jarrett is great. You must not have seen it live.
ReplyDeleteIYH 2 Roadie vs Kid was also a great match and about the only second rope piledriver for the finish i've ever seen
ReplyDeleteagreed, best part of that match was Jarrett's extra fancy blue suede tights
ReplyDeleteIt's funny how Shawn is the first guy to admit what a complete asshole he was in 94-97 but damned if he couldn't back it up in the ring.
ReplyDelete1. Shawn vs. Taker (Bad Blood)
ReplyDelete2. Austin vs. Dude Love (Over the Edge)
3. Shawn-Mankind (Mind Games)
4. Bret vs. Bulldog (Dec. '95)
5. Ten Man Tag (Canadian Stampede)
6. Austin vs. Rock (Backlash)
7. Four Way Elimination (Final Four)
8. Triple Threat Steel Cage (Breakdown)
9. Shawn vs. Taker (Ground Zero)
10. Shawn vs. Diesel (Good Friends, Better Enemies)
Yep. Backlash was the final In Your House
ReplyDeleteI find HBK/JJ to be pretty boring
ReplyDeleteI think they officially stopped using the In your house subtitles at No Way Out (although the In Your House ppvs in the wwe network library only go to the DX show.
ReplyDeleteBacklash '99
ReplyDeleteSouthern Boys fought the freebirds at every clash in 1990.
ReplyDeleteYes Shawn vs UT is definitely #1. I'm surprised to see Scott ranking UT/Taker so high.
ReplyDeleteEven Vince McMahon has admitted to screwing up.
ReplyDeleteIf GSW and Atlanta were to get bounced, who becomes the new championship favorite? I know the media is going to push it as Cleveland, but I can't see it not being the Clippers.
ReplyDeleteDamn, lots of crazy weather in the middle of the country.
ReplyDeleteYou do know that HGH is thought of by some as a boost to longevity?
ReplyDeleteHouston
ReplyDeleteClippers would destroy the Cavs. I'm not really sold on th Cavs getting outta this round
ReplyDeleteI love how everyone in the league calls him soft
ReplyDeleteHe even admits that his who is responsible for that. He HAD TO have the best match on the card. His ego would accept no less.
ReplyDeleteIn 2010, when the C's beat Orlando to get to the Finals, they were up by like 20 late in the 4th at home then D-12 slams one in and starts to taunt the crowd. At that moment, I realized he will never win shit. He doesnt get it.
ReplyDeleteThat show is a nightmare. Jada Smith is the worst casting maybe of all the times.
ReplyDeleteMemphis would body the fuck out of any eastern team.
ReplyDeleteWashington could matchup well against them. A healthy Wall would make Washington the Eastern favorites.
ReplyDeletehe seemed decent on the show from the couple episodes I watched...though he is distractingly like a young christopher Eccleston
ReplyDeleteLA CLIPPERS NBA Champions.....think about that for a second.
ReplyDeleteThe apocalypse is among us
ReplyDeleteIf they put Home Improvement on Netflix on top of everything else they have, I'd never leave the house. I SUPERCHARGED MY RIDING MOWER!
ReplyDeleteYeah, Washington is pretty physical. It'd be the closest thing to the 80s NBA we'd get.
ReplyDeleteIt drives me crazy, I thought they turned things around about midway through the season, but the last 5-6 episodes were just horrid. Still no clue what show they're trying for, campy in spots, gory dark in spots, "real" in spots, hyper unreal stuff in others
ReplyDeleteGortat and ZBo might end up killing each other
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling we aren't talking about the Rap group D-12
ReplyDeleteBacklash 99 was advertised as IYH then that designation was removed even before the VHS was released.
ReplyDeleteHe's not bad at all, but like he was lifted out of an alternative batman show and dropped into that horseshit
ReplyDeleteLOL at this principal from Georgia
ReplyDeleteThe whole point of the show is flawed. Batman in his attempt to end crime escalated the crazy criminals.....if all the crazies show up before he spouts pubes...where the hell are things suppose to go when he becomes batman?
ReplyDeleteNope. Dwight Howard
ReplyDeleteThere was a brief reprieve in there where they quick on the campy villain of the week and started focusing on Falcone and Maroni and well as some good old fashioned Bullock and Gordon and it worked. Then more Fish and Barbara arrived just in time to snuff out the goodness.
ReplyDeleteGortat would slug Conley in the face
ReplyDeleteGoing to have my RoH reviews back this Saturday
ReplyDeleteI just love we'll get two new teams in the finals. The heat and spurs were getting into Cena?Orton territory for me.
ReplyDeleteFuck that. I still want Chicago vs. Memphis. Zbo would most likely punch Noah out.
ReplyDeleteRude and heat you say
ReplyDeleteGo check out superbrawl 2 on the network if you have it. Rude can barely get through his pre-match spiel
He's a piece of shit. He's a bad human being too.
ReplyDeleteSo Pratt and Rudd are Marvel super heroes who should Adam Scott play?
ReplyDeleteRather do it up 20 then by down 20.
ReplyDeleteBat mite.
ReplyDeletefollow question...should they just add ron swanson to the marvel universe
ReplyDeletewife sent topless pic from France...SCORE!...I ....am....lonely
ReplyDeleteI'm all for it.
ReplyDeleteUltron...I feel you have these tendencies for destruction because you have never experienced a porterhouse or ribs
ReplyDeleteWow, Ichiro just faked out a runner fielding a double in a one run game and kept the tying run from scoring from first. Ball was hit deep and Ichiro gave up on it like it was gone, but it hit off the wall and Ichiro fielded the long hop just like he planned and the Giants runner on first, who wasn't busting it thinking the batter hit a walk off, couldn't make it to home and had to hold up at third. Old Man Suzuki still has it
ReplyDeletePics or it didn't happen
ReplyDeleteWASP
ReplyDeleteNo it really happened here I'll just show.....hey....wait a sec
ReplyDeleteAnother one thats debatable is the IYH international incident 6 man tag
ReplyDeleteI kinda irrationally want him to hang on long enough for 3000, not that he needs it for HOF, but want him to get it
ReplyDeleteUltron. Eat this burger. It's meat on a bun. You will love it.
ReplyDeleteSame, even if it means going to a bottom feeder just to get enough ABs
ReplyDeleteBonzai almost became my hero.
ReplyDeleteI think him and Thor would be besties
ReplyDeleteAnd, if he does reach 3000, he would have more professional hits than anyone in history counting the 1200+ in Japan.
ReplyDeleteHer playing Matt Foley at SNL40 was fucking lame.
ReplyDeleteBlankman
ReplyDeleteWho would play Blankman's nemesis Spacebar!?
ReplyDeleteNo one who played from say 1985 to 2006 should be elected to the HOF as long as Bonds and Clemens are out..
ReplyDeleteDee Gordon is currently batting .439. Goddamn.
ReplyDeleteHe carried that show all season.
ReplyDeleteWrong.
ReplyDeleteSeriously why the fuck does Kayne think his legacy is ruined if he gets caught smiling?
ReplyDeleteI don't blame Dodgers brass for dealing him because his second half numbers regressed back to his usual average self, but he's starting to put it together over there. If he had stayed in LA, Jimmy Rollins would've played with both Tom and Dee Gordon
ReplyDeletehttp://screengrabber.deadspin.com/in-which-we-learn-kanye-can-smile-when-he-thinks-no-one-1703488503/+bubbaprog
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1KoRmzowmw
ReplyDelete"When Maggie Thatcher dies" is the greatest football chant. Thank you, Liverpool.
ReplyDeleteBecause he's insane.
ReplyDeleteHe makes good music, that's all that matters.
ReplyDeleteHe's insane for marrying to a Kardashian.
ReplyDeleteBTW the Giants Wall of Fame outside AT&T is a joke. Kurt Manwaring? Marvin Bernard? Get some real legends dammit
ReplyDeleteThis Chris Regal whack job from TNA Mecca is my new favorite psycho
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/CRegal23/status/578632005937672192
Hey, what about me?
ReplyDeleteand Season for of Parks is done.
ReplyDeleteYou're my favorite South American psycho
ReplyDeleteThat's reason enough to keep him around.
ReplyDeleteI would be so flying to France right now.......
ReplyDeleteI would hope Will Clark is represented.
ReplyDeleteHe was insane LONG before that.
ReplyDeleteShe was only around to date the guys on the show.
ReplyDelete#324 with a bullet!
ReplyDeleteIt's like my TNA fandom times 500.
ReplyDeleteEh, I'm OK with an asshole tax
ReplyDeleteMore like it fuels the "Russo is a moron" theory.
ReplyDeleteThat was my favorite season.
ReplyDeletePart of it has to be because he is paid
ReplyDelete*big smile*
ReplyDeleteHow can anyone read this recap and think hiring Russo for anything is a good idea?
ReplyDeleteHe's a mad musical genius.
ReplyDeleteAubrey Huff was busy that weekend
ReplyDeleteI don't think he is. He's bashed other sites for being paid by WWE. TNA gives him Q&A's and re-tweets a lot of his stuff. Bob Ryder dropped in and did an impromptu Q&A last week.
ReplyDeleteThe following he wrote is a persecutory delusion and nothing more.
ReplyDelete"One of my favorite activities after watching Impact is searching for forums in which fans can talk about the show and share with one another their thoughts. However, it's getting increasingly harder to find venues where TNA fans can safely express their opinions on Impact without having to deal with the trolling of the anti-TNA crowd or the smarks who insist on taking the fun out of pro wrestling."
He can knock off the act and if it isnt, he is a fucking whacko. He is not a battered woman, he is a fanboy of TNA and unable to handle others criticize the product. That above paragraph is psycho talk
Got up to August 1996 in my chronological network viewing today, Hog Wild, A nitro, raw, Clash, and now summerslam, I;ve wasted a whole day and not made it through a single week, This Undertaker/Mankind boiler room brawl is as boring as i remember
ReplyDeleteDon't worry, Steve Decker has an increased role in tomorrow night's BoD RAW show
ReplyDeleteThat sounds like Caliber talking about Planet Fitness.
ReplyDeleteYeah, saw it a year ago and didnt think it held up too well.
ReplyDeleteWith less microwaved bacon
ReplyDeleteYeah I laugh when I read that if I post in the Post-Impact Discussion thread.
ReplyDeleteAt least he didn't burn his eggs.
ReplyDeleteI'm all for fans supporting their favorite product but he is whacked.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be surprised if there was still quite a lot of microvaved bacon. Less than your boy, but still quite a lot.
ReplyDeleteI think he is just not open for criticism of TNA at all. I've seen people banned left and right on that site for saying a couple negative things about TNA.
ReplyDeleteHey, you ever try to microwave bacon and scramble eggs at the same time? God didnt give us enough hands to make that possible
ReplyDelete#TNAlivesmatter
ReplyDeleteIts cult-like behavior. Its why I think he is getting some sort of kickback to act like that.
ReplyDeleteOr he considers TNA's re-tweets and Q&A's as a kickback. If he does, that's just sad.
ReplyDeleteJ-5
ReplyDeleteThe idea of ostensibly having open chat threads and then warning people to keep the discussion about TNA has always made me laugh.
ReplyDelete#AlpoStockIncrease
ReplyDeleteGreat lists,
ReplyDeleteI would also include the 6 man from IYH: International Incident, Windham/Luger vs Horsemen, Steamboat vs Funk. Those were some great matches that deserve honorable mention for sure.
*riotous applause*
ReplyDeleteBoth Mat Latos and Ryan Vogelsong went 7 IP with 5 K's, is it 2010 again?
ReplyDeleteSo GFW is going to be following a "TV" show type format with 13 episodes and a 2 hour finale? If so, meh.
ReplyDelete"but it hit off the wall and Ichiro fielded the long hop just like he planned and the Giants runner on first, who wasn't busting it thinking the batter hit a walk off"
ReplyDeleteAnd this is the biggest thing I hate about AT&T.
I just watched Clash 11 again, and actually enjoyed the Furnas vs Windham match, and the RnR Express vs Midnights, and Doom vs Steiners matches more this time around than any other time. I remember watching it live back in the day too.
ReplyDeleteI don't remember ever seeing the Vader/Shawn match but i gated Michaels then and his winning pissed me off, knowing what i know now about him throwing a hissy fit before being the reason Vader didn't win doesn't make me any more excited to watch it now
ReplyDelete"The IT Factor of Professional Wrestling........DOGGY FOOOOOOOOOOD".
ReplyDeleteIs that the new deal wrestling shows are getting now? If so, doesnt bode well for the future.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the shows wil end in the middle of a match as a cliffhanger.
ReplyDelete#BobbysTears
ReplyDeleteThat's what JR leaked that GFW is planning on doing. I guess the market for a weekly TV wrestling show is getting narrower and narrower.
ReplyDeletedo we have to watch robin hood to find out what happened next?
ReplyDeleteThose really black hubcaps work on just about any car.
ReplyDeleteNight thread's up
ReplyDeleteHe might make a halfway decent cup of coffee, maybe...
ReplyDeleteI think it was at Capitol Combat.
ReplyDeleteJeff Jarrett has that effect.
ReplyDeleteForget Mr. Wrestlemania, Shawn Michaels should be rechristened Mr. In Your House.
ReplyDeleteBret/Bulldog has seemed to have gained more favor over the years. Has there been any 5 star matches that have lost such strong fervor over the years? I don't mean a 5 star match becoming a 3 star one, but at least falling to like 4-4.25.
ReplyDeleteAlways fascinating to watch that DVD with him and Bret talking and realizing just how much alike they really are in that department.
ReplyDeleteThis show would probably be better with the nitrous.
ReplyDeleteMy personal top ten:
ReplyDelete1- Shawn-Mankind
2- Bret-Bulldog
3- Final four
4- Shawn-Diesel
5- Bret-Austin (revenge of the 'taker)
6- Bret-Lafitte
7- Bret-Hakushi
8- 8 man usanctioned (no way out)
9- Shawn-Owen (rage in the cage)
10- Taker-Mankind (buried alive)
Yeah! List questions rule!
ReplyDelete1. Shawn-Taker HITC
2. Shawn-Mankind
3. Shawn-Diesel
4. International Incident 6-man tag
5. Canadian Stampede
6. Shawn-Jarrett
7. Shawn-Taker
8. Final Four
9. Bret-Bulldog
10. Bret-Patriot
Midnights vs Fantastics has to be at least 2 if not 1. I haven't seen Sting/Flair in ages but it made such an impression on every that how could it not be 1?
ReplyDeleteAustin/Dude Love would be number 1. Please update your records
ReplyDeleteOnce again Bret matches would dominate. As once again proof as who the true best ever is and was and ever will be.
ReplyDeleteTrue fact: the silly string spot was pitched by Bob Mould, during his brief stint on the booking committee.
ReplyDeleteThere is a Steiner/Flair COTC match thats incredible. I really enjoyed Doom vs. Steiners at Clash X
ReplyDeleteI think I would put Bret/Diesel cage match on there
ReplyDeleteAlso think Shawn vs Owen from that same IYH might make it
I would put them over the Mankind/Taker from Revenge of Taker
I'm pretty sure it's Mouse Rat bro.
ReplyDeleteYou loathe these dudes with a truly sincere passion.
ReplyDeleteClash of the Champions 14 in January of 1991.
ReplyDeleteThat promo was fantastic.
ReplyDeleteWWE could really use an unironic 80s style cokehead.
I like Scott's IYH list. I would put Shawn-Diesel ahead of Shawn-Jarrett and put the 10-man ahead of Shawn-Jarrett too. And I'd dump the Bret-Hakushi match for the star-making HHH-Mankind match from Canadian Stampede.
ReplyDeleteFlair-Steamboat is the best match to ever appear on non-PPV TV. Unless Japan has something that can rival it.
Much as I love Austin/Dude, it pales in comparison to HIAC 1.
ReplyDeleteHow did Steiner get a shot at flair? What was the buildup?
ReplyDeleteYeah there's only one or two ideas of his that so I've ever seen Russo just flat out say "man, that really wasn't a great idea in hindsight". Can't remember what it was, showed up in his reddit AMA. One of them might've been Beaver Cleavage. Most of the time it's the "you can't expect me to remember anything about a job I devoted my entire life and nearly wrecked my family for" argument =)
ReplyDeleteThink the ironman match keeps going down.
ReplyDeleteI would say HBK vs foley is #2, easily IMO
ReplyDeleteThat Shawn-Jarrett match has not aged well to me. At all.
ReplyDeleteFlair sandbagged Steiner in that match. A young Hunter keenly took notes.
ReplyDeleteAs it should.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that's one of those forgotten classics.
ReplyDeleteBacklash 99 was such a hot PPV. Literally the hottest time period in wrestling history.
ReplyDeleteI don't recall that one in particular but it wasn't uncommon for Flair to do short feuds with tag team guys. He had a short program with both Ricky Morton and Road Warrior Hawk complete with title defenses.
ReplyDeleteShawn/Jarrett is good, but overrated. I'd put it at #8 or so.
ReplyDeleteYeah, all his stalling definitely knocks it out of the ***** territory.
ReplyDeleteI'd say 4, but just barely.
ReplyDeleteThat was the first PPV I ever ordered.
ReplyDeleteEspecially since I think Scott has said it's his favorite match.
ReplyDeleteI'm watching ROH, when did Kyle O'Reilly become American Dragon level awesome?
ReplyDeleteThe Crockett territory really knew how to do tag matches and always kept a bunch of good teams around.
ReplyDeleteNo greater pressure on earth than the one placed on self.
ReplyDeleteI haven't watched it in a while but that seems strange since I thought he was the one that wanted Scott to be a singles star and he wouldn't leave Rick behind. Either way I dug it.
ReplyDeleteWas the iron man match actually rated that highly to begin with? IIRC a lot of reviewers were loudly disappointed even at the time.
ReplyDeleteThank you, I said the same and got told hunter wasnt sandbagging and how he put every wcw guy over
ReplyDeleteI think it was a tournament that led to the match
ReplyDeleteShawn mankind was motyc 96 for me that match is great. I really like the Jarret match but its got some Memphis style stuff so I get why people dont
ReplyDeleteWas the moun tie on that ppv?
ReplyDeleteShawn/Mankind was amazing. Just a wild brawl of a match moving at a pace you rarely saw at that time. Silly finish is all that brings it down. Mick has often said this is his best match (he may have super seeded it with the Orton one since).
ReplyDeleteAdmit it you ordered it because of the lumberjack match!
ReplyDeleteIf you've not seen it, I'd strongly recommend the Best of IYH DVD - I think for match quality and variety its the most enjoyable WWE DVD I've seen since its such a mix-up of different wrestlers and styles of match. Don;t have the match listing to hand but pretty sure its got most of what we're discussing here on it.
ReplyDeleteShawn Michaels/Undertaker HIAC without a doubt. I even loved the finish with Kane, which was perfect within the context of the ongoing storylines.
ReplyDeleteThat's sort of like the theory of evolution in that "theory" doesn't mean "hypothesis" (as people commonly mistake it for) but rather a set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based.
ReplyDeleteI think the only ones singing that match's praises have always been WWE itself.
ReplyDeleteShe is a viable option, IMO. She looks good enough to be a leading lady on that scale and has enough name for Hollywood satisfaction. Plus, she's not just the token model and can actually act
ReplyDeleteI hear you. I'm glad they killed someone off though. It kind of takes away from the "OMG the world is going to end!" vibe when none of the heroes are ever in actual peril. I think at some point they need to have Thanos killing off some of the lesser Avengers in order to build to the payoff
ReplyDeleteWhile Michael Pineda K's 16 dudes
ReplyDeleteSummerSlam 1996 should have been the end of Shawn Michaels: Main Eventer, Phase One. Vader beats the shit out of him, beats up his "mentor" (Jose), and takes the title without apology. Shawn has to transition from "boyhood dream" dancing boy toy stripper to a more mature, more violent version of himself in order to get the title back and slay the beast. His character was just not built for the main event.
ReplyDeleteI agree. I loved that match when I first saw it, but when I watched it again, recently, it was nothing special. Then again, it's still one of Jarrett's best WWE matches.
ReplyDeleteSteiner bragged about his reputation of being stiff and not protecting wrestlers... i'd sandbag the guy to
ReplyDeletethe night Flair won the belt from Sting, Flair cuts a victory promo in the hallway with the Horsemen. After high-fiving VK Wallstreet (with Barry checking out Alexandra York) Flair mouths off to the passing Steiners, Scott gets in his face
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